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    Why Do Men Like to Hunt?

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    • SusyLuvsPaul
      SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

      Why do men like to go out into the woods and shoot and kill small creatures--otherwise decent non-violent men. Non violent except for hunting and killing animals and birds. Many males around here just can't wait for hunting season to begin. Am hearing gunshots out in the woods They don't have to do this to put food on their tables. I understand their liking the taste of venison stew (deer meat) as I had it once, and couldn't help but find it quite tasty. They claim the county's deer population is way too high. Deer bound across the roads to the point you ought to drive pretty slowly in the country, especially at night. Country people seem to dread snakes above all...have only seen once since living out here, and its unexpected pattern of red, yellow, brown and white checks made me not mind seeing it. McCartney even remarked it's quite a privilege to see rattlesnakes--wish we all could share his attitude. But getting back to my original question...why...they keep hunting dogs for this purpose, too, trained to kill.

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        DennyC last edited by

        women hunt too. why, you would have to ask a hunter.

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        • Adriana Rojas
          Adriana Rojas last edited by

          i'm afraid that your question don't have an answer logical, just cultural. For many years they had to hunt for eat, but now is just for fun. May be if we teach our children, could change the pattern, I think this is our mission for a better world 2:

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          • oobu24
            oobu24 last edited by

            My poor dog came from the south & was used for hunting. Poor thing was kept outside as a farm animal. She doesn't know tenderness...at least she didn't. Now she has it made. She was used to hunt racoons. Do they eat those? This is a coonhound...

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            • Kathryn O
              Kathryn O last edited by

              What you are doing though is judging somebody based on an interest you don't understand. I'm not going to tell others what they should be doing with their lives just as I don't want them to tell me what I should be doing. (and the self-riteous behavior of 'well, they're killing and i'm not' has caused more destruction and wars in the world then any other emotion). I just want to make sure they are doing it in a responsable manner. Many of the good ones I know already are.

              "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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              • Rockerdude
                Rockerdude last edited by

                There are plenty of women that hunt in North America Its Bow season here(since yesterday) & I talked to a guy this morning who's friend just bagged one. My father & brother use to hunt but not anymore. I never had an interest in guns or hunting but have eaten venison when I was younger. Anyway; I don't endorse hunting & Ted Nugent doesn't like me & I don't like him. Really!!!

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                • Kathryn O
                  Kathryn O last edited by

                  I'm not intersted in learning how to hunt but I wouldn't mind learning how to aim,shoot and use and care for my gun properly. just for the discipline it takes to acquire the skill. I just haven't felt like devoting the time though I have learned where I can go from relatives who are gun nuts and friends. One day when I'm older and board and need change in my life, I'll take it up seriously.

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                  • SusyLuvsPaul
                    SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                    Am also bothered by a longtime slaughterhouse not far from here and by right many massive buildings set far back from the roads, windowless, where chickens or hogs are housed to get plumped up before...you know the rest... ...and yet somehow can't quite become a full-fledged vegetarian, will seem like I'm on the very brink of making it, but then will fall off the wagon. I wasn't really judging the hunters, just wondered how they could stand to kill innocent wild creatures especially when they don't die right away but have to be "finished off," I shudder to visualize it. And don't like to think of fish suffering. My brother in law had the weirdest look on his face that time I told him about the Meat Free Monday songwriting competition. He's an avid outdoorsman and hunter, and especially loves to fish. He acted like he'd never heard of vegetarianism. Is gearing up for "turkey shoots" now. Ugh

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                    • Kathryn O
                      Kathryn O last edited by

                      Some people think that vegetarianism was developed in the 60s and don't realize it's been around for thousands of years.

                      "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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                        admin last edited by

                        I think it has to do with empowerment. We are so dependent on our society for everything, that the act of hunting represents a half-assed form of self-reliance. In the trade-off for behaving by the rules of law and fear, many of us develop a deep jealousy of intruders. The hapless creatures provide an excuse to vent those aggressions for being dependent that would otherwise be directed toward people, and I base these thoughts on the behavior of Americans who vent viciously over issues such as welfare and government entitlements, or their occupational frustrations and what they have to say about the boss or about others who willfully accept welfare as a (hopefully temporary) dependency. Those who object the loudest often appear to 'Be Owned' or often appear to be fighting the feeling in order to dismiss it in the eyes of others if not self. Has anyone here read the background story on Mark David Chapman? Not that hunters would or should be considered to be capable of murder, but I've known a few who swear, under 'the right conditions' (usually over their Intolerance of their life circumstances and against others), that they would. And then again, the decision to kill differs depending on the potential victim, doesn't it? With the subject being a person of value, then of course not.

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                        • SusyLuvsPaul
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                          Probably some hunters boast they always kill their prey on the first shot, and therefore the animal never knew what hit them. Didn't know it was coming. Maybe, but the creature was still deprived of its life. "A person of value" Audley's Piano, isn't every human? Everyone has a mind, soul and spirit, a personality (some much more than others!). Non-human creatures also have some of this, one would think. Some awareness and some feelings. Some personality. Certain animals and also cold blooded reptiles can and do kill people. Even sting rays and other fishies. Should we consider that "turnabout is fair play"--just being a bit facetious. I did read once about a deer who crashed through a window and killed a person inside a house. Much more often a deer will suddenly leap out from the woods, to bound across the road, a car will hit it and carnage and mayhem ensue. Doubtless in these parts where I am, many would trot out various Bible verses which assert man is the king over the beasts that are here only to serve mankind, etc. Which doesn't sound right to animal lovers, at all. I've known a few who seem to favor animals over humans, don't seem to even like people and that doesn't seem right to me, either.

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                            admin last edited by

                            "A person of value" is in the eye of the beholder. It definitely is not my philosophy, but it does seem to be the viewpoint of the hostile people out there; that people who have something or who offer something that we want or need are (usually) protected, and people who are dependent are too often thought of as being "expendable", "a drain on society", etc. So when the attention turns to "lesser creatures", of course "animals are also expendable" according to a few. The trouble I have with eliminating animals is that I identify "humanity" and family values in the behavior of many animals when they are allowed to remain with their own, a pride of cats for instance, however, very little of the same character in the demeanor of the hunter.

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                              DennyC last edited by

                              Kathryn, I doubt many people think vegetarianism was born in the 60's. There were dinosaurs that just ate plants.

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                                admin last edited by

                                I've never understood hunting since I've been an adult and never will--not even during the years that I ate meat.

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                                • Kathryn O
                                  Kathryn O last edited by

                                  DennyC:

                                  Kathryn, I doubt many people think vegetarianism was born in the 60's. There were dinosaurs that just ate plants.

                                  I've talked to them. never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers

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                                    kolinexy last edited by

                                    Hunting small game with air guns new york? What are the rules on hunting small game on DEC property with pellet rifles? I want to hunt I am 16, and my brother is 13. I am assuming ajuniors hunting liscense? is hunting small game with an airgun on dec managed property even allowed? _____________________ [http://www.keywordspy.com/overview/domain.aspx?q=marketsamurai.com]marketsamurai[/url]](http://www.keywordspy.com/overview/domain.aspx?q=marketsamurai.com]market samurai[/url] ~ [url=<a href=) ~ [url=http://www.keywordspy.com/overview/domain.aspx?q=marketsamurai.com">marketsamurai.com

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                                      femaleanimal last edited by

                                      kolinexy:

                                      I want to hunt

                                      Why? It`s certainly an unusual topic for a first post on Paul`s forum.

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                                      • Peace Frog
                                        Peace Frog last edited by

                                        It's an ancient evolutionary trait; although some, including Darwin, argue that it is more of a cultural adaption rather than natural, based on our body structures. When plant life gave out, they had to eventually turn to animals for the sake of convenience. Also, men seem to favor their sort of dominating status over nature even to this day, they even like to use the Bible for justification. Regardless of its justification, modern necessity or if it's ethical, men each have their own reasons for doing so, especially if its at their best convenience.

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                                          DennyC last edited by

                                          femaleanimal:

                                          kolinexy:

                                          I want to hunt

                                          Why? It`s certainly an unusual topic for a first post on Paul`s forum.

                                          This new poster must know alot about Paul. He must know that Paul is extremely anti-hunting. They want to have a little fun here. Because if they were really serious about hunting, this would be the last place they would post that.

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                                          • Kathryn O
                                            Kathryn O last edited by

                                            kolinexy:

                                            Hunting small game with air guns new york? What are the rules on hunting small game on DEC property with pellet rifles? I want to hunt I am 16, and my brother is 13. I am assuming ajuniors hunting liscense? is hunting small game with an airgun on dec managed property even allowed?

                                            I suggest you go to a hunter's forum and ask. They're usually pretty good about telling you where you can find the information we need. Hunting isn't about dominance. It's a skill that takes a lot to learn and acquire. Being able to track, learn the habits and territories of animals (Hunters know more biology then most). In fact, I went to a lecture on cryptozoology on the Michigan Wolfmen and the guy giving the lecture said he is inclined to believe stories from hunters because they know their areas pretty well and what is and isn't unusual.

                                            "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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