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    • Bob Gannon
      Bob Gannon last edited by

      Now that Sgt Pepper has been released, the focus for MPL should be switching to the new album. But taking a look ahead, there does not seem to be a whole lot of time to promote the album. We know it's eventually coming soon, I mean it will be sent to those who purchased tickets for the later shows on the tour. But when you look ahead, when will there be time? June.....although they are off, if would be quite difficult to do at this point without any advance notice. We are already almost in June July.......bulk of the month touring August....no touring and the band is not on call and off for the month September......back to touring most of the month in NYC area mostly October...we have at least 6 confirmed shows and 2 or 3 rumored ones This leaves November/December.....however at least some of that looks to be touring as well. Don't ask me where, I can't tell you but awefully good chance of some more shows. So this begs the question...How and when will this album be promoted? What does everyone think?

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      • Bob Gannon
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        I mean I guess there are some holes while in the NYC area for the month of September which would allow maybe some TV appearances or possible a surprise gig (just speculation). But that surely wouldn't mark any kind of sustained push for the album. At this point, I am thinking whatever spare time will be open in Nov/Dec seems like the only alternative

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        • SusyLuvsPaul
          SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

          You may be right. Doesn't seem to be much time for it

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          • Bob Gannon
            Bob Gannon last edited by

            I guess depending where the new dates fall in Nov/Dec could dictate alot

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            • SusyLuvsPaul
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              It's really something big to look forward to

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                AcresOfFun last edited by

                I think it's unlikely they would want to send a CD out to people 2 months after they went to a concert. [edit: though I guess some July dates are receiving CDs? I don't know, but I think timing it with no dates at all seems unlikely.] Every sign points to a September release for the record, and honestly I don't see any reason why that couldn't happen. The NYC dates are being heavily promoted, and during a tour is exactly the time most artists make promotional appearances.

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                • Bob Gannon
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                  AcresOfFun:

                  I think it's unlikely they would want to send a CD out to people 2 months after they went to a concert. [edit: though I guess some July dates are receiving CDs? I don't know, but I think timing it with no dates at all seems unlikely.] Every sign points to a September release for the record, and honestly I don't see any reason why that couldn't happen. The NYC dates are being heavily promoted, and during a tour is exactly the time most artists make promotional appearances.

                  When I got the Mudcrutch and Tom Petty albums with tickets is was over 2 months. I've been saying September as well but time will tell. I don't think July dates got the album offer nor did the first round of September shows. And it did come with a disclaimer that it would be mailed when it becomes available

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                  • LadyLeslie
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                    Hi Bob, the "Things We Said Today" Beatles radio program was discussing exactly what you posted about, in their latest show... beginning at the 14:15 mark

                    Just thought you might find it interesting. They were of the opinion that the new album won't be released until this fall... and discussed the confusion about the email that was sent, about getting a copy of the CD with the purchase of a concert ticket, etc.

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                    • Bob Gannon
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                      Thanks, will check it out

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                      • DrivinFan
                        DrivinFan last edited by

                        Bob Gannon:

                        I mean I guess there are some holes while in the NYC area for the month of September which would allow maybe some TV appearances or possible a surprise gig (just speculation). But that surely wouldn't mark any kind of sustained push for the album. At this point, I am thinking whatever spare time will be open in Nov/Dec seems like the only alternative

                        Bob...I agree...what better format to promote a new release than the New York City area press. In addition to that, 8 high profile concerts performed as well. Believe me, people will know Paul has a new cd out!

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                          Teddy Boy22 last edited by

                          I bought tix to the OKC show on July 17th and I was offered the new album with my purchase. It said that it will be mailed upon its release.

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                          • thenightfish
                            thenightfish last edited by

                            DrivinFan:

                            Bob Gannon:

                            I mean I guess there are some holes while in the NYC area for the month of September which would allow maybe some TV appearances or possible a surprise gig (just speculation). But that surely wouldn't mark any kind of sustained push for the album. At this point, I am thinking whatever spare time will be open in Nov/Dec seems like the only alternative

                            Bob...I agree...what better format to promote a new release than the New York City area press. In addition to that, 8 high profile concerts performed as well. Believe me, people will know Paul has a new cd out!

                            Also agree...he can easily do all the promo work in NYC while he is there.

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                            • yankeefan7
                              yankeefan7 last edited by

                              Bob Gannon:

                              Now that Sgt Pepper has been released, the focus for MPL should be switching to the new album. But taking a look ahead, there does not seem to be a whole lot of time to promote the album. We know it's eventually coming soon, I mean it will be sent to those who purchased tickets for the later shows on the tour. But when you look ahead, when will there be time? June.....although they are off, if would be quite difficult to do at this point without any advance notice. We are already almost in June July.......bulk of the month touring August....no touring and the band is not on call and off for the month September......back to touring most of the month in NYC area mostly October...we have at least 6 confirmed shows and 2 or 3 rumored ones This leaves November/December.....however at least some of that looks to be touring as well. Don't ask me where, I can't tell you but awefully good chance of some more shows. So this begs the question...How and when will this album be promoted? What does everyone think?

                              Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                              Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                                yankeefan7:

                                Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

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                                • Bruce M.
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                                  beatlemaniac007:

                                  yankeefan7:

                                  Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                  I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                  The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                  "The only true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, loyalty to government when it deserves it."

                                  \--Mark Twain

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                                  • Gordy JS
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                                    Bruce M.:

                                    beatlemaniac007:

                                    yankeefan7:

                                    Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                    I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                    The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                    Well Radio 1 in the UK won't play it but Radio 2 is very good for playing them. "Shoutout to Radio 2, you're the only radio station that still plays us"-Elton John 😉

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                                      Bruce M.:

                                      beatlemaniac007:

                                      yankeefan7:

                                      Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                      I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                      The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                      ________________________________________________________ You hit it right on the head Bruce. I just hope the album has quite a few of good songs with great melodies and mature lyrics like Chaos, MAF, Flaming Pie, and Tug of War. I could care less how well it does on the charts.

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                                      • yankeefan7
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                                        Bruce M.:

                                        beatlemaniac007:

                                        yankeefan7:

                                        Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                        I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                        The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                        You are correct, think he has even gotten to #3 the first week a couple of times. The only way he keeps it going for more than a week or two is to have a killer single that expands his fan base.

                                        Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                                        • Bruce M.
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                                          yankeefan7:

                                          Bruce M.:

                                          beatlemaniac007:

                                          yankeefan7:

                                          Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                          I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                          The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                          You are correct, think he has even gotten to #3 the first week a couple of times. The only way he keeps it going for more than a week or two is to have a killer single that expands his fan base.

                                          True. But for that to happen, people need to hear it, and that's the obstacle. Without Top 40 radio play or a breakthrough on social media, 95% of America (I can't speak for other countries) won't even know he has a single out, good or bad.

                                          "The only true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, loyalty to government when it deserves it."

                                          \--Mark Twain

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                                          • yankeefan7
                                            yankeefan7 last edited by

                                            Bruce M.:

                                            yankeefan7:

                                            Bruce M.:

                                            beatlemaniac007:

                                            yankeefan7:

                                            Since he no longer is a big commercial seller, I don't think it matters that much which was proven by "New". He did a lot of promotion (late night shows, festivals) and it did basically the same as most of his recent albums. I think the promotion will be playing it in concert and it being sent to those who purchased tickets at the later concerts.

                                            I agree with you on this, even in his latest Rolling Stone interview from August 2016 he said he knew he wouldn't sell a lot of new albums, but he would release it anyway because he liked the album. Wouldn't surprise me if the new single came out in July right before the tour, and the album to come in September. With the tour, and some late night appearances(while he is in New York, that seems obvious enough for me) he, himself, won't go too much further. But there probably will be loads of online promo from his social medias.

                                            The initial burst of promotion does always seem to produce a respectable week or two of sales. The problem for Paul and others of his age (Paul Simon, Dylan, Brian Wilson, etc.) is that a) radio, which is still a meaningful force, ignores him, and b) his fan base is of an age that most are not constantly sharing his new videos via social media. So a new Paul album hits the top 10 for a couple weeks than sinks like a stone. Barring something akin to a lightning strike, that will always be the pattern -- but that wave of TV appearances, etc., is key to getting that decent first couple weeks.

                                            You are correct, think he has even gotten to #3 the first week a couple of times. The only way he keeps it going for more than a week or two is to have a killer single that expands his fan base.

                                            True. But for that to happen, people need to hear it, and that's the obstacle. Without Top 40 radio play or a breakthrough on social media, 95% of America (I can't speak for other countries) won't even know he has a single out, good or bad.

                                            Maybe he needs a little "payola" to the radio stations - lol. Just kidding !!!

                                            Maybe I'm amazed !!

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