Paul's upcoming album review they say its HOT!
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lisalou7:
From Twitter back in June from Giles Martin Giles Martin @mashupmartin 6 Jun You'd think once having been named "chief producer" I'd gain some respect. Then this appeared on the mix desk... http://t.co/64YownUk9I
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audi:
If Paul was expecting a thunderous, immediate response to "Come And Get It," then he definitely over-estimated the general fans' knowledge of The Beatles' works. Most people associate that song with Badfinger. .
Moreover, most people wouldn't even know the song! Still glad I got to hear it in 2011.
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The Word came and went just as quickly. Again - it sounded great live!
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lisalou7:
From Twitter back in June from Giles Martin Giles Martin @mashupmartin 6 Jun You'd think once having been named "chief producer" I'd gain some respect. Then this appeared on the mix desk... http://t.co/64YownUk9I
Is that Paul's studio?
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BOYCIE:
audi:
If Paul was expecting a thunderous, immediate response to "Come And Get It," then he definitely over-estimated the general fans' knowledge of The Beatles' works. Most people associate that song with Badfinger. Still, that's no reason to yank it from the setlist so quickly.
Come And Get It sounded great when Paul played it in London in 2011, but most of the audience were underwhelmed by it, more fool their ignorance.
: I must admit it really pisses me off that some" fans" are so unfamiliar with Paul's music apart from the fabs and a handful of Wings hits.
IMO - It is most fans at concerts are unfamiliar with McCartney's music apart from Beatles and a few Wings songs. What really ticks me off is that these people don't even try to enjoy something they are not familiar with hearing. Even if people did not realize "Come And Get It" was written by McCartney you think they might enjoy it, it was a top 10 single I believe.
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audi:
If Paul was expecting a thunderous, immediate response to "Come And Get It," then he definitely over-estimated the general fans' knowledge of The Beatles' works. Most people associate that song with Badfinger. Still, that's no reason to yank it from the setlist so quickly.
IMO - McCartney needs to get over the fact that every non-Beatle song will not get thunderous applause but it does not mean that it is not a good song to play in concert and some people like it.
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yankeefan, If I remember Come and Get it was a #2 in UK. I was so excited to see it make the list. Was disappointed by the reaction as well
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Bob Gannon:
yankeefan, If I remember Come and Get it was a #2 in UK. I was so excited to see it make the list. Was disappointed by the reaction as well
Even in Manchester and Liverpool the response was tepid, at best. But for Beatles nerds like me, it was terribly exciting! A song I'd have never EVER have believed I'd see performed live by the man who wrote it.
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BOYCIE:
I must admit it really pisses me off that some" fans" are so unfamiliar with Paul's music apart from the fabs and a handful of Wings hits.
I'm reminded of a review by Peter Doggett that appeared in 'Record Collector'....... "Rock stardom is a curious fate. The world of popular music is full of immensely famous and popular figures, whose international stature isn't in any way supported by their record sales. There are still several million people around the world who will buy a Paul McCartney album, but very few of these seem to be new fans. He can fill an arena or a stadium in most parts of the world, but only a fraction of those audiences would consider buying 'Flowers In The Dirt', Off The Ground" or, for that matter, 'Paul Is Live". ' As you can tell by those examples of album titles, the review is nearly twenty years old (the extract used was reviewing the 'Paul Is Live' video release in 1994) but nothing much has changed. I certainly don't expect many of the people attending Paul's live shows this year will exactly be rushing out to buy his new album. I don't really expect that many will even have many of his previous albums either so are basically unfamiliar with his work other than the well known songs they've probably only heard off the radio.
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Kestrel:
BOYCIE:
I must admit it really pisses me off that some" fans" are so unfamiliar with Paul's music apart from the fabs and a handful of Wings hits.
I'm reminded of a review by Peter Doggett that appeared in 'Record Collector'....... "Rock stardom is a curious fate. The world of popular music is full of immensely famous and popular figures, whose international stature isn't in any way supported by their record sales. There are still several million people around the world who will buy a Paul McCartney album, but very few of these seem to be new fans. He can fill an arena or a stadium in most parts of the world, but only a fraction of those audiences would consider buying 'Flowers In The Dirt', Off The Ground" or, for that matter, 'Paul Is Live". ' As you can tell by those examples of album titles, the review is nearly twenty years old (the extract used was reviewing the 'Paul Is Live' video release in 1994) but nothing much has changed. I certainly don't expect many of the people attending Paul's live shows this year will exactly be rushing out to buy his new album. I don't really expect that many will even have many of his previous albums either so are basically unfamiliar with his work other than the well known songs they've probably only heard off the radio.
How sad but true. Obviously most of us became McCartney fans due to the Beatles but you would think people would move on and maybe enjoy the other 40 something years of his career also. I am actually more excited about a new record than I was about McCartney touring again this year. I also think that it is sad that great recent records of McCartney will be basically ignored when his legacy is discussed in future years.
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it's getting close..
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PDS:
If you're curious what Usher's "Climax" sounds like, here it is:
Should be an interesting album. With all these producers, it could be a grab-bag of production styles, like FITD, or something that (for me) hangs together better, like Flaming Pie. At any rate, it seems that there will be at least a few very modern-sounding tracks on the album. But Paul, please don't try to sing like Usher! -
Bob Gannon:
yankeefan, If I remember Come and Get it was a #2 in UK. I was so excited to see it make the list. Was disappointed by the reaction as well
This says #4 in the UK and #7 in the U.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_Get_It_(Badfinger_song)
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moptops:
lisalou7:
From Twitter back in June from Giles Martin Giles Martin @mashupmartin 6 Jun You'd think once having been named "chief producer" I'd gain some respect. Then this appeared on the mix desk... http://t.co/64YownUk9I
Is that Paul's studio?
Yep looks like Hog Hill.
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yankeefan7:
Kestrel:
BOYCIE:
I must admit it really pisses me off that some" fans" are so unfamiliar with Paul's music apart from the fabs and a handful of Wings hits.
I'm reminded of a review by Peter Doggett that appeared in 'Record Collector'....... "Rock stardom is a curious fate. The world of popular music is full of immensely famous and popular figures, whose international stature isn't in any way supported by their record sales. There are still several million people around the world who will buy a Paul McCartney album, but very few of these seem to be new fans. He can fill an arena or a stadium in most parts of the world, but only a fraction of those audiences would consider buying 'Flowers In The Dirt', Off The Ground" or, for that matter, 'Paul Is Live". ' As you can tell by those examples of album titles, the review is nearly twenty years old (the extract used was reviewing the 'Paul Is Live' video release in 1994) but nothing much has changed. I certainly don't expect many of the people attending Paul's live shows this year will exactly be rushing out to buy his new album. I don't really expect that many will even have many of his previous albums either so are basically unfamiliar with his work other than the well known songs they've probably only heard off the radio.
How sad but true. Obviously most of us became McCartney fans due to the Beatles but you would think people would move on and maybe enjoy the other 40 something years of his career also. I am actually more excited about a new record than I was about McCartney touring again this year. I also think that it is sad that great recent records of McCartney will be basically ignored when his legacy is discussed in future years.
If I recall accurately, back in '07, Paul supposedly testified in court during his marital woes that his recent albums, while critically well-received, were not as successful commercially.
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warning: long post, again
Well, this may be quite obvious but it's hardly talked about... It seems we all agree marketing is very important when it comes to a record's sales (well, to the sales of anything...). Okey, marketing costs money, so the real success of marketing is kind of selling much with little marketing costs. When it comes to music business, I just don't know how many kind of costs there are related to marketing. There's the money paid to make the song appear over and over in mainstream radio. I guess there's a similar thing for MTV. Then there's all the comercials over the web, like in youtube, and more similar concepts. Ok, the point is that an album can be a #1 and still a comercial failure.
It can happen if the costs behind it were higher that the income from sales... Just like could happen with a movie with a huge budget or that spent a lot in marketing and then topped the box but not as much as expected.... Long time ago (in Spain!) there was a saying that, to recover the cost of a big mainstream marketing campaign, the album would have to sell 100000 records. So some were in the top sellers and still were not profit but losses to the record company. I mean Paul's albums that have not been #1 can easily have been much "profitable" for the record company that many #1s. I remember Will Smith last album, it sold a lot, like 10 milion or so and STILL the record company lost money cause the marketing behind it was huge... in the end they kind of fired Will Smith... or so they say... maybe that was not true but sure there are similar situations... I kind of think that, with enough marketing, almost anything and anybody can be #1 (:lol
. * nothing to do with music but products as old and famous as Coca-Cola (!), see their sales decline if they decrease their investment in marketing. I mean, everybody knows Paul McCartney, so isn't that enough marketing? no! everybody knows Coca-Cola and that's not enough to keep them selling the same figure.
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Talking of which I remember him saying how happy he was with the Starbucks music company (Hear Music ?) for the release if MAF, how they had great ideas (not sure what they did apart from selling the CD in Starbucks Cafes ?) as opposed to EMI having endless meetings and not doing much (he blamed them for Chaos' commercial failure)...well MAF didn't really go anywhere and Hear Music didn't last "more than a lunchtime"
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It may be obvious too but it's hardly talked about too... I mean there are 2 songs that could appear in Paul's next album that Paul has already "showed to the world", Meat Free Monday and Petrushka. If not on the album maybe in a deluxe edition or so with extra tracks or as B-sides, etc. Paul already recorded a version of Meat Free Monday avalaible to download, that could be on the record. I prefer his original acoustic version to the one recorded at the studio. Maybe Paul records a third version and the song gets into the album. And then, Petrushka, he plays it often in soundchecks, and sometimes live, so Paul is already playing new stuff, but we can't know if it is new stuff that will be on the new album until we know the new album tracks, of course.
Meat Free Monday, kind of live 2009Petrushka, live in London 2010
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I would doubt Meat Free Monday will be involved at all with the album or Petrushka. Both are alright but there seems like a wealth of material from this over a year and almost a half of recording. If the album is coming in October, than the single should be anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks in front of it. Personally I can't wait for it!! Petrushka is more of an ad libbed song...great during soundcheck..I agree but I don't think an album track. I'm hoping for a very big release this time...with all of the secrecy around it, something has to be up