Could the new Kanye/McCartney single All Day be his best?
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favoritething:
parlance:
crisstti:
I'm not sure overall hip hop culture has a great influence on people anyway.
It may not have had an obvious impact on you or your immediate circle, but it's had a huge impact around the world. A 2 second search on Google goes immediately to this Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop#Effects At any rate, it's saddening and disturbing that people with little awareness of the history of the word use it casually. It's not just a minor slur that a few people get butthurt over. It's a word with a violent and deadly history. There might have been a moment when reclaiming the word had some value, but that lost its power decades ago. parlance
But then you get people like Rush Limbaugh claiming now that whites who use that word to discriminate against blacks (as in the fraternity guys on that bus) probably just heard black rappers use it and thought it was okay. That is certainly too far, right? Whites get a free pass to use the n-word because black people said it, making blacks responsible for racist chants and discrimination against blacks? As you've said, that discrimination goes back way, way, way before rap ever existed! I do have to wonder if "All Day" was the song Limbaugh was thinking of when he said this.
Which is why the word should not be used at all and disposed of in the dust bind of history.
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Julian Lennon's take on Kanye: https://www.facebook.com/julianlennonofficial/posts/10153034991141117
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I like Julian, but sometimes he takes things too far, and then has to take them back. I imagine that will be the case with the "Anyone who associates with him" comment. parlance
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parlance:
I like Julian, but sometimes he takes things too far, and then has to take them back. I imagine that will be the case with the "Anyone who associates with him" comment. parlance
I doubt Julian even cares much about Kanye, it's just another opportunity to take a passive-aggressive swipe at Paul (as Julian has been indulging in for several years now). Sad.
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I read it less as a swipe and more as expressing displeasure in a super- heavy-handed way. Julian has said they made peace after his last public blow-up. parlance
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I know they made peace after the "where-was-my-invitation-to-your-wedding" flap. But I thought their relationship went south again over the Grammy tribute to the Beatles?? Julian made some snide comments on Facebook about that, too. Julian said on Facebook that he'd wanted to sing with Paul at the grammy's event and "been told no." Clearly Julian blamed Paul for that. I doubt Paul wanted to convey the idea that Julian was in any way "replacing" John at the Grammy's event, and it wouldn't have been fair to Ringo for there to be all sorts of publicity revolving around Paul and Julian singing together, at a Grammy event that's supposed to be about the 4 Beatles. Anyway, Julian has a pattern of making these heavy-handed remarks about Paul on Facebook. This one seems like an especially cheap shot.
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I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll just leave this with saying I have a lot of compassion for Julian having had an extremely unstable childhood, and none if us will ever truly know what it's like to be in his shoes. And I hope whatever beef he may or may not still have with Paul is resolved. parlance
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RMartinez:
Which is why the word should not be used at all and disposed of in the dust bind of history.
Amen R. Martinez !
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favoritething:
yankeefan7:
favoritething:
parlance:
crisstti:
I'm not sure overall hip hop culture has a great influence on people anyway.
It may not have had an obvious impact on you or your immediate circle, but it's had a huge impact around the world. A 2 second search on Google goes immediately to this Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop#Effects At any rate, it's saddening and disturbing that people with little awareness of the history of the word use it casually. It's not just a minor slur that a few people get butthurt over. It's a word with a violent and deadly history. There might have been a moment when reclaiming the word had some value, but that lost its power decades ago. parlance
But then you get people like Rush Limbaugh claiming now that whites who use that word to discriminate against blacks (as in the fraternity guys on that bus) probably just heard black rappers use it and thought it was okay. That is certainly too far, right? Whites get a free pass to use the n-word because black people said it, making blacks responsible for racist chants and discrimination against blacks? As you've said, that discrimination goes back way, way, way before rap ever existed! I do have to wonder if "All Day" was the song Limbaugh was thinking of when he said this.
"But then you get people like Rush Limbaugh claiming now that whites who use that word to discriminate against blacks (as in the fraternity guys on that bus) probably just heard black rappers use it and thought it was okay" See below for what Limbaugh actually said. " Simply said on the program yesterday that if Kanye West sang those very lyrics at the Grammys, he'd get a standing O, probably win awards, and that lyrics like that in rap music have created celebrities, millionaire celebrities and near royalty out of the artists that perform them. Now, you shook your head at some point, "No, I don't think --" And then I said, "Well, maybe, okay, but you can't deny," I said, "that people who sing these lyrics are treated like royalty and win awards left and right." " Let me clarify something about the frat boys. They were not actually singing a rap song. They were using words that are omnipresent in rap music, but they were not mimicking a rap song. The point is that if you travel anywhere in America and you hear music, you can't miss these words anymore on the radio now or however people are streaming musical content. If you can hear what they're listening to, you can't miss it. You can't miss the N-word. You can't miss the b-i-itch word. You can't miss "ho." You can't miss all these vile lyrics. It's everywhere. And I think people are fed up with it."
The point is that those frat boys were not *just* using the n-word, they were using it to say loud and clear that blacks are not welcome in their fraternity. That's the really despicable part of it. Rush doesn't seem to care about that aspect; he's more concerned that rappers use the n-word. Any excuse to blame them instead of the frat boys. If one of those white frat boys were caught on video saying to another white frat boy, "What's up, my n***a?", that would definitely be inappropriate, but it's a whole other level when he says, "We'll never let a n****r in our fraternity." How are rappers responsible for that mentality? And Rush makes it sound like rappers are rich and famous BECAUSE they use the n-word, which is completely ludicrous.
Disagree. Limbaugh did not excuse the frat boys. Actually, he was quite surprised that they were getting defended by people saying it is a freedom of speech issue and they should not be kicked off campus. I am not the only one who has thought that rappers throwing that word around make it seem that it is not a big deal. There was a white NFL QB (Kerry Collins) in the city I live who was sitting among black players constantly calling each other that name. Mr. Collins thought it was ok since he was one of the guys and the QB. He used the term at a party with other players and boy was he surprised at the reaction. All of a sudden, he was a racist and it paved the way for him to be let go.
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parlance:
It is ridiculous that she thought assumed a casual access to the word in this day and age. parlance
My thoughts exactly. I can only imagine if Sir Paul performed the song with Kanye and gets all into the song and lets the word slip. All heck would break loose. Im sure that would never happen though.
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yankeefan7:
favoritething:
yankeefan7:
favoritething:
parlance:
crisstti:
I'm not sure overall hip hop culture has a great influence on people anyway.
It may not have had an obvious impact on you or your immediate circle, but it's had a huge impact around the world. A 2 second search on Google goes immediately to this Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop#Effects At any rate, it's saddening and disturbing that people with little awareness of the history of the word use it casually. It's not just a minor slur that a few people get butthurt over. It's a word with a violent and deadly history. There might have been a moment when reclaiming the word had some value, but that lost its power decades ago. parlance
But then you get people like Rush Limbaugh claiming now that whites who use that word to discriminate against blacks (as in the fraternity guys on that bus) probably just heard black rappers use it and thought it was okay. That is certainly too far, right? Whites get a free pass to use the n-word because black people said it, making blacks responsible for racist chants and discrimination against blacks? As you've said, that discrimination goes back way, way, way before rap ever existed! I do have to wonder if "All Day" was the song Limbaugh was thinking of when he said this.
"But then you get people like Rush Limbaugh claiming now that whites who use that word to discriminate against blacks (as in the fraternity guys on that bus) probably just heard black rappers use it and thought it was okay" See below for what Limbaugh actually said. " Simply said on the program yesterday that if Kanye West sang those very lyrics at the Grammys, he'd get a standing O, probably win awards, and that lyrics like that in rap music have created celebrities, millionaire celebrities and near royalty out of the artists that perform them. Now, you shook your head at some point, "No, I don't think --" And then I said, "Well, maybe, okay, but you can't deny," I said, "that people who sing these lyrics are treated like royalty and win awards left and right." " Let me clarify something about the frat boys. They were not actually singing a rap song. They were using words that are omnipresent in rap music, but they were not mimicking a rap song. The point is that if you travel anywhere in America and you hear music, you can't miss these words anymore on the radio now or however people are streaming musical content. If you can hear what they're listening to, you can't miss it. You can't miss the N-word. You can't miss the b-i-itch word. You can't miss "ho." You can't miss all these vile lyrics. It's everywhere. And I think people are fed up with it."
The point is that those frat boys were not *just* using the n-word, they were using it to say loud and clear that blacks are not welcome in their fraternity. That's the really despicable part of it. Rush doesn't seem to care about that aspect; he's more concerned that rappers use the n-word. Any excuse to blame them instead of the frat boys. If one of those white frat boys were caught on video saying to another white frat boy, "What's up, my n***a?", that would definitely be inappropriate, but it's a whole other level when he says, "We'll never let a n****r in our fraternity." How are rappers responsible for that mentality? And Rush makes it sound like rappers are rich and famous BECAUSE they use the n-word, which is completely ludicrous.
Disagree. Limbaugh did not excuse the frat boys. Actually, he was quite surprised that they were getting defended by people saying it is a freedom of speech issue and they should not be kicked off campus. I am not the only one who has thought that rappers throwing that word around make it seem that it is not a big deal. There was a white NFL QB (Kerry Collins) in the city I live who was sitting among black players constantly calling each other that name. Mr. Collins thought it was ok since he was one of the guys and the QB. He used the term at a party with other players and boy was he surprised at the reaction. All of a sudden, he was a racist and it paved the way for him to be let go.
But there is still a difference between "throwing that word around" and using it to actively discriminate against black people, telling them where they can and cannot go.
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Not to mention that the frat boys' song has been passed down for generations, long before rap music existed and also talked of lynching.
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audi:
It took collaborating with Paul McCartney to come up with this piece of sh-t?
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This new "song" is a steaming turd of a tune - absolutely wretched. But....it just entered the Billboard Hot 100 singles at # 15. Gives Paul two top 15 singles in the U.S. at the same time for the first time in who knows when (Four Five Seconds holds at #5 again).
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My Salamander:
This new "song" is a steaming turd of a tune - absolutely wretched. But....it just entered the Billboard Hot 100 singles at # 15. Gives Paul two top 15 singles in the U.S. at the same time for the first time in who knows when (Four Five Seconds holds at #5 again).
First time since 1982, when "Ebony and Ivory" was #1 while "The Beatles' Movie Medley" was #12.
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My Salamander:
This new "song" is a steaming turd of a tune - absolutely wretched. But....it just entered the Billboard Hot 100 singles at # 15. Gives Paul two top 15 singles in the U.S. at the same time for the first time in who knows when (Four Five Seconds holds at #5 again).
Paul's biggest year on the charts since 1982 or even 1976.
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I don't know anything about nor do I actually care about where things chart but...what about this? albums At The Speed Of Sound #45 2014 Venus And Mars #31 2014 New #3 2013 Wings Over America #22 2013 Ram #24 2012 Kisses On The Bottom #5 2012 McCartney #50 2011 Band On The Run #29 2010 Good Evening New York City #16 2009 Memory Almost Full #3 2007 Chaos and Creation in the Backyard #6 2005 Back In The U.S. Live 2002 #8 2002 Driving Rain #26 2001 Wingspan: Hits And History #2 2001 Run Devil Run #27 1999 Flaming Pie #2 1997 Off the Ground #17 1993 Unplugged - The Official Bootleg #14 1991 Tripping the Live Fantastic #26 1990 Flowers In The Dirt #21 1989 Press To Play #30 1986 Give My Regards To Broad Street #21 1984 Pipes Of Peace #15 1983 Tug Of War #1 1982 McCartney II #3 1980 Singles Only One (Kanye West featuring Paul McCartney) #35 2015 Dance Tonight #69 2007 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band #48 2005 Freedom #97 2001 The World Tonight #64 1997 Hope Of Deliverance #83 1993 Figure Of Eight #92 1990 This One #94 1989 My Brave Face #25 1989 Stranglehold #81 1986 Press #21 1986 Spies Like Us #7 1985 No More Lonely Nights #6 1984 So Bad #23 1983 Say Say Say #1 1983 The Girl Is Mine (Michael Jackson/Paul McCartney) #2 1982 Tug Of War #53 1982 Take It Away #10 1982 Ebony And Ivory #1 1982 Coming Up #1 1980 http://musicchartsarchive.com/artists/paul-mccartney
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oobu24:
I don't know anything about nor do I actually care about where things chart but...what about this? albums At The Speed Of Sound #45 2014 Venus And Mars #31 2014 New #3 2013 Wings Over America #22 2013 Ram #24 2012 Kisses On The Bottom #5 2012 McCartney #50 2011 Band On The Run #29 2010 Good Evening New York City #16 2009 Memory Almost Full #3 2007 Chaos and Creation in the Backyard #6 2005 Back In The U.S. Live 2002 #8 2002 Driving Rain #26 2001 Wingspan: Hits And History #2 2001 Run Devil Run #27 1999 Flaming Pie #2 1997 Off the Ground #17 1993 Unplugged - The Official Bootleg #14 1991 Tripping the Live Fantastic #26 1990 Flowers In The Dirt #21 1989 Press To Play #30 1986 Give My Regards To Broad Street #21 1984 Pipes Of Peace #15 1983 Tug Of War #1 1982 McCartney II #3 1980 Singles Only One (Kanye West featuring Paul McCartney) #35 2015 Dance Tonight #69 2007 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band #48 2005 Freedom #97 2001 The World Tonight #64 1997 Hope Of Deliverance #83 1993 Figure Of Eight #92 1990 This One #94 1989 My Brave Face #25 1989 Stranglehold #81 1986 Press #21 1986 Spies Like Us #7 1985 No More Lonely Nights #6 1984 So Bad #23 1983 Say Say Say #1 1983 The Girl Is Mine (Michael Jackson/Paul McCartney) #2 1982 Tug Of War #53 1982 Take It Away #10 1982 Ebony And Ivory #1 1982 Coming Up #1 1980 http://musicchartsarchive.com/artists/paul-mccartney
What about this? Well, it proves that about 15,000 dedicated fans bought the reissues the week they came out.
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Awful song it really is for me it makes cringe when I see that video and that's the best aspect of it.
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Bruce M.:
oobu24:
I don't know anything about nor do I actually care about where things chart but...what about this? albums At The Speed Of Sound #45 2014 Venus And Mars #31 2014 New #3 2013 Wings Over America #22 2013 Ram #24 2012 Kisses On The Bottom #5 2012 McCartney #50 2011 Band On The Run #29 2010 Good Evening New York City #16 2009 Memory Almost Full #3 2007 Chaos and Creation in the Backyard #6 2005 Back In The U.S. Live 2002 #8 2002 Driving Rain #26 2001 Wingspan: Hits And History #2 2001 Run Devil Run #27 1999 Flaming Pie #2 1997 Off the Ground #17 1993 Unplugged - The Official Bootleg #14 1991 Tripping the Live Fantastic #26 1990 Flowers In The Dirt #21 1989 Press To Play #30 1986 Give My Regards To Broad Street #21 1984 Pipes Of Peace #15 1983 Tug Of War #1 1982 McCartney II #3 1980 Singles Only One (Kanye West featuring Paul McCartney) #35 2015 Dance Tonight #69 2007 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band #48 2005 Freedom #97 2001 The World Tonight #64 1997 Hope Of Deliverance #83 1993 Figure Of Eight #92 1990 This One #94 1989 My Brave Face #25 1989 Stranglehold #81 1986 Press #21 1986 Spies Like Us #7 1985 No More Lonely Nights #6 1984 So Bad #23 1983 Say Say Say #1 1983 The Girl Is Mine (Michael Jackson/Paul McCartney) #2 1982 Tug Of War #53 1982 Take It Away #10 1982 Ebony And Ivory #1 1982 Coming Up #1 1980 http://musicchartsarchive.com/artists/paul-mccartney
What about this? Well, it proves that about 15,000 dedicated fans bought the reissues the week they came out.
Cool list, but it's missing the "McCartney II" reissue, which hit #82 in 2011.