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    'Mull Of Kintyre' whitewashed from pop history

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    • ewanme
      ewanme last edited by

      Just been watching an ITV (UK) programme called 'The Nations favourite Seventies Number one' Not only is 'Mull Of Kintyre' / Girlschool'(the UK's biggest selling number one and biggest selling single of the 70's) excluded from the chart, but it is not even acknowledged amongst all the other clips (demonstrating 70's music and images) within the one hour show. Apparently the chart was compiled using voting by industry 'experts'. The supporting cd set, featuring 68 (yes 6 70's number ones also fails to include 'Mull' http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nations-Favourite-70s-Number-Ones/dp/B00TA6L5OK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425592241&sr=8-1&keywords=the+nations+favourite+number+one+70%27s Such a shame Wings record-breaker is being whitewashed from history. The question is, why? Discuss.

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        admin last edited by

        Mull was massive. Outsold The Beatles' biggest selling UK song, She Loves You. Was massive here too. Number one for like 7 weeks. Maybe critics don't like waltzes...He sang it here and I saw it in Liverpool at the end of the On The Run tour. No doubt if he plays Liverpool again in May, he might do it...

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          admin last edited by

          I don't know, people change their mind all the time, suddenly something is popular and suddenly it's unpopular ... and popular again.

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          • beatlesfanrandy
            beatlesfanrandy last edited by

            Maybe Paul did not want to be included on a compilation like that. It could have been his choice.

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              crisstti last edited by

              beatlesfanrandy:

              Maybe Paul did not want to be included on a compilation like that. It could have been his choice.

              I think so too. Maybe the show only included songs in the compilation, and Paul didn't want to be included. Beatles songs are never in such compilations.

              "In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make"

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              • toris
                toris last edited by

                This song was HUGE at the time, creating all sorts of records. I loved and love it. So simple. Not overladen with chords. Just simple and beautiful. And melodious and uplifting. The "experimental" use of bagpipes worked a treat too..... and, perhaps with the exception of ACDC, bagpipes hadn't really played a major part in "popular" music through the years.... quite daring... why it seems to have been shunned as time goes by, and is not considered a classic, I cannot explain. Or why it was not pushed more heavily in the States at the time, when it was humungous in other markets.... I think they/someone underestimated that market.... I maintain a love for it. And it's another example of the times when a massive single was separate to an album release.

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                • Nancy R
                  Nancy R last edited by

                  ewanme:

                  Just been watching an ITV (UK) programme called 'The Nations favourite Seventies Number one' Not only is 'Mull Of Kintyre' / Girlschool'(the UK's biggest selling number one and biggest selling single of the 70's) excluded from the chart, but it is not even acknowledged amongst all the other clips (demonstrating 70's music and images) within the one hour show. Apparently the chart was compiled using voting by industry 'experts'. The supporting cd set, featuring 68 (yes 6 70's number ones also fails to include 'Mull' http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nations-Favourite-70s-Number-Ones/dp/B00TA6L5OK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425592241&sr=8-1&keywords=the+nations+favourite+number+one+70%27s Such a shame Wings record-breaker is being whitewashed from history. The question is, why? Discuss.

                  We should all write to them about this travesty!

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                  • HaileyMcComet
                    HaileyMcComet last edited by

                    This is a good point. I never hear anyone talk about this song. I've never heard it played anywhere - except my computer. Yet it was such a huge hit. What's going on?

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                    • J
                      JoeySmith last edited by

                      Its partly Paul's fault. He prefers to do the mediocre C-Moon year after year in concert instead of MoK. MoK would be a great encore song, anywhere in the world. I'm assuming Paul considers it too "scottish" to have an appeal anywhere else, which i dont think its true. With today's technology, you can easily mix in the bagpipes & make it sound good in concert. Also, Paul should be talking up classics like MoK instead of retreading old Beatles stories whenever he does interviews for Rolling Stone or others mags. According to wikipedia, "The song remains the UK's best-selling completely non-charity single." That's incredible, yet no one outside of Paul's devoted fans know about it!!!

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                      • nowords
                        nowords last edited by

                        It's not played enough I love it

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                        • Beatles4Ever
                          Beatles4Ever last edited by

                          toris:

                          This song was HUGE at the time, creating all sorts of records. I loved and love it. So simple. Not overladen with chords. Just simple and beautiful. And melodious and uplifting. The "experimental" use of bagpipes worked a treat too..... and, perhaps with the exception of ACDC, bagpipes hadn't really played a major part in "popular" music through the years.... quite daring... why it seems to have been shunned as time goes by, and is not considered a classic, I cannot explain. Or why it was not pushed more heavily in the States at the time, when it was humungous in other markets.... I think they/someone underestimated that market.... I maintain a love for it. And it's another example of the times when a massive single was separate to an album release.

                          Oh, and it was great to hear that song in a British pub while having a tall one!! Perfect song to sing along to. Loved that....as did everyone. I thought, "So this is one big reason it's such a massive hit in Europe, but not the states!"

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                            admin last edited by

                            JoeySmith:

                            Its partly Paul's fault. He prefers to do the mediocre C-Moon year after year in concert instead of MoK. MoK would be a great encore song, anywhere in the world. I'm assuming Paul considers it too "scottish" to have an appeal anywhere else, which i dont think its true. With today's technology, you can easily mix in the bagpipes & make it sound good in concert. Also, Paul should be talking up classics like MoK instead of retreading old Beatles stories whenever he does interviews for Rolling Stone or others mags. According to wikipedia, "The song remains the UK's best-selling completely non-charity single." That's incredible, yet no one outside of Paul's devoted fans know about it!!!

                            I agree, except I don't think C Moon is played every year, if much at all. But MoK was a worldwide hit, if I recall, not just a hit in Scotland. Why he doesn't play it every night in concert is a mystery to me.

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                              admin last edited by

                              HaileyMcComet:

                              This is a good point. I never hear anyone talk about this song. I've never heard it played anywhere - except my computer. Yet it was such a huge hit. What's going on?

                              It's being over shadowed by a bunch of other lame number 1 hits of that era But then again, this is probably a good thing making it under rated

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                              • BOYCIE
                                BOYCIE last edited by

                                RMartinez:

                                JoeySmith:

                                Its partly Paul's fault. He prefers to do the mediocre C-Moon year after year in concert instead of MoK. MoK would be a great encore song, anywhere in the world. I'm assuming Paul considers it too "scottish" to have an appeal anywhere else, which i dont think its true. With today's technology, you can easily mix in the bagpipes & make it sound good in concert. Also, Paul should be talking up classics like MoK instead of retreading old Beatles stories whenever he does interviews for Rolling Stone or others mags. According to wikipedia, "The song remains the UK's best-selling completely non-charity single." That's incredible, yet no one outside of Paul's devoted fans know about it!!!

                                I agree, except I don't think C Moon is played every year, if much at all. But MoK was a worldwide hit, if I recall, not just a hit in Scotland. Why he doesn't play it every night in concert is a mystery to me.

                                Paul always says he likes to play the "hits" live, so where is not only Mull, With A Little Luck, Helen Wheels, Goodnight Tonight and Take It Away to name just a few!

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                                  admin last edited by

                                  BOYCIE:

                                  RMartinez:

                                  JoeySmith:

                                  Its partly Paul's fault. He prefers to do the mediocre C-Moon year after year in concert instead of MoK. MoK would be a great encore song, anywhere in the world. I'm assuming Paul considers it too "scottish" to have an appeal anywhere else, which i dont think its true. With today's technology, you can easily mix in the bagpipes & make it sound good in concert. Also, Paul should be talking up classics like MoK instead of retreading old Beatles stories whenever he does interviews for Rolling Stone or others mags. According to wikipedia, "The song remains the UK's best-selling completely non-charity single." That's incredible, yet no one outside of Paul's devoted fans know about it!!!

                                  I agree, except I don't think C Moon is played every year, if much at all. But MoK was a worldwide hit, if I recall, not just a hit in Scotland. Why he doesn't play it every night in concert is a mystery to me.

                                  Paul always says he likes to play the "hits" live, so where is not only Mull, With A Little Luck, Helen Wheels, Goodnight Tonight and Take It Away to name just a few!

                                  Yup. Just add those and fans will smile for decades.

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                                    DavidP last edited by

                                    He always plays Mull Of Kintyre when he plays in Canada. He played it at the Edmonton show in 2013 and the arena exploded when the bagpipers came on stage. It was an electrifying performance. For my ears the song is already a classic that will outlive us all and will become part of the musical fabric of that region in Scotland. A Popular National Anthem that will be sung in pubs all around the world for decades to come.

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                                    • Nancy R
                                      Nancy R last edited by

                                      RMartinez:

                                      JoeySmith:

                                      Its partly Paul's fault. He prefers to do the mediocre C-Moon year after year in concert instead of MoK. MoK would be a great encore song, anywhere in the world. I'm assuming Paul considers it too "scottish" to have an appeal anywhere else, which i dont think its true. With today's technology, you can easily mix in the bagpipes & make it sound good in concert. Also, Paul should be talking up classics like MoK instead of retreading old Beatles stories whenever he does interviews for Rolling Stone or others mags. According to wikipedia, "The song remains the UK's best-selling completely non-charity single." That's incredible, yet no one outside of Paul's devoted fans know about it!!!

                                      I agree, except I don't think C Moon is played every year, if much at all. But MoK was a worldwide hit, if I recall, not just a hit in Scotland. Why he doesn't play it every night in concert is a mystery to me.

                                      Costs too much to hire all the bagpipers maybe.

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                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                      FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

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                                      Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

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                                        admin last edited by

                                        Or is it the Paul who wants to erase Denny Laine from his music history? I remember Laine wrote this rather negative book in the 80s, did he ever forgive that?... Just an idea, nothing serious... "Mull of Kintyre" is a McCartney/Laine composition.

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                                        • Kestrel
                                          Kestrel last edited by

                                          Hendrix Ibsen:

                                          I remember Laine wrote this rather negative book in the 80s, did he ever forgive that?... Just an idea, nothing serious... "Mull of Kintyre" is a McCartney/Laine composition.

                                          I don't know about a book but Denny did give an honest balanced interview about his time in Wings for a book, which when it was edited and printed out of context in the British press,it appeared to be anything but balanced. I'm not sure why MOK is so overlooked these days,its a pleasant enough song if slightly dreary.

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                                            admin last edited by

                                            There has been some kind of an Indie folk movement the last 5-10 years but maybe not so many songs with bagpipes, bands like Fleet Foxes and Mumford & Sons and the harp player Joanna Newsom... so it should not be completely out on the sidelines. I think "Mull of Kintyre" has a beautiful melody, I consider it an experiment to a degree, rock 'n' rollers doing a Scottish Waltz. And it works...

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