Paul McCartney 2013 Rumours
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RMartinez:
In the 1970s, Paul was distancing himself from the Beatles and had something to prove, which culminated in the Wings Over America/World Tour, which drove the point home. Paul has embraced his Beatle past for the last twenty five years, it would be strange and illogical for him to all of a sudden reject that. I don't see it happening. In 2013, it would be great if he puts out a new CD and plays three to five songs off of it live. Probably mixed in with his regular set list, replacing some songs, of course. I know it's not popular to say here but another thing to get ready for is Paul cannot do three hour shows forever. Expect, at some point, for five to ten songs to be cut from the set list.
Yeah, I agree. Too bad he will cut the set, not the prices
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audi:
RMartinez:
...Paul has embraced his Beatle past for the last twenty five years, it would be strange and illogical for him to all of a sudden reject that. I don't see it happening...
For the record: It is very possible for Paul McCartney re-construct his entire show and include plenty of Beatle-era McCartney songs that have never/rarely been performed. I'm not asking Paul to reject his pride in his Beatles compositions -- but I think it would freshen the palette if he omitted those same songs that have dominated his concerts for a very, very long time.
For the record? The record is that McCartney has done nothing of the sort in twenty five years. Yes, he has changed the set list here and there, but the radical re-constructing of his show you suggest is not likely to happen. But I hope it does.
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RMartinez:
audi:
RMartinez:
...Paul has embraced his Beatle past for the last twenty five years, it would be strange and illogical for him to all of a sudden reject that. I don't see it happening...
For the record: It is very possible for Paul McCartney re-construct his entire show and include plenty of Beatle-era McCartney songs that have never/rarely been performed. I'm not asking Paul to reject his pride in his Beatles compositions -- but I think it would freshen the palette if he omitted those same songs that have dominated his concerts for a very, very long time.
For the record? The record is that McCartney has done nothing of the sort in twenty five years. Yes, he has changed the set list here and there, but the radical re-constructing of his show you suggest is not likely to happen. But I hope it does.
Its hard to disagree,sadly we're looking at the near end of Paul's career so while we would love to see songs seldom if ever played in the show quite a few people who go to the gigs are there for the Beatle side of Paul,and lets be fair its a hell of a legacy that,indeed it shows how good Paul is as an artist that he's had the solo career that he's had..but change things? frankly i think Paul is very happy playing the bulk of the current setlist,no doubt with a few songs swapped in and out lets not forget the shows are almost instant sell outs in most placers and the reviews are pretty decent too so why change?
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audi:
Perhaps I'm in Pollyanna-mode again, but I'm sensing that we're going to get our new show. Paul's recent 12.12.12 set and SNL appearance are subtle indications. If I'm wrong, I shall post a YouTube video of me in drag lip-syncing to Tina Turner's "On Silent Wings."
Spare us all.
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RMartinez:
[..] For the record? The record is that McCartney has done nothing of the sort in twenty five years. Yes, he has changed the set list here and there, but the radical re-constructing of his show you suggest is not likely to happen. But I hope it does.
2002, 2005, 2009... (2013...)
hengirl:
[..]lets not forget the shows are almost instant sell outs in most placers and the reviews are pretty decent too so why change?
Because he's an artist, not a jukebox.
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I can appreciate the iron willed optimism of some of you, but facts are facts. For McCartney to do the major overhaul of his show you all want, he will need more than a week of rehearsals with the band, which is what he has been doing for a few years now, then performing GREAT shows, but essentially the same show. If you can reach back into your memory, McCartney usually rehearses a new show in a big venue somewhere in London, so not only can new songs be practiced, but new staging and lighting. If all the rumors about Paul doing shows in South America in April are true, well guess what? This Friday is the beginning of March, and there has been NO WORD of the band rehearsing or anything like that. There may be stealth practices going on, I don't know. But all indications are the South American shows will be pretty much what we have seen and heard already. Or maybe not.
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moptops:
audi:
Perhaps I'm in Pollyanna-mode again, but I'm sensing that we're going to get our new show. Paul's recent 12.12.12 set and SNL appearance are subtle indications. If I'm wrong, I shall post a YouTube video of me in drag lip-syncing to Tina Turner's "On Silent Wings."
Spare us all.
Done. Besides, I'm much hotter as a boy. By the way: What's the latest on Paul playing Australia? Any announcements?
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RMartinez:
I can appreciate the iron willed optimism of some of you, but facts are facts. For McCartney to do the major overhaul of his show you all want, he will need more than a week of rehearsals with the band, which is what he has been doing for a few years now, then performing GREAT shows, but essentially the same show. If you can reach back into your memory, McCartney usually rehearses a new show in a big venue somewhere in London, so not only can new songs be practiced, but new staging and lighting. If all the rumors about Paul doing shows in South America in April are true, well guess what? This Friday is the beginning of March, and there has been NO WORD of the band rehearsing or anything like that. There may be stealth practices going on, I don't know. But all indications are the South American shows will be pretty much what we have seen and heard already. Or maybe not.
Valid points (and respectfully worded, which is a refreshing dynamic in this thread). If it turns out that his next shows are more of the same, I have a strong feeling that, at the very least, his Bonnaroo set (which I'll be attending) will showcase any tricks that Paul might have up his sleeve.
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RMartinez:
I can appreciate the iron willed optimism of some of you, but facts are facts. For McCartney to do the major overhaul of his show you all want, he will need more than a week of rehearsals with the band, which is what he has been doing for a few years now, then performing GREAT shows, but essentially the same show. If you can reach back into your memory, McCartney usually rehearses a new show in a big venue somewhere in London, so not only can new songs be practiced, but new staging and lighting. If all the rumors about Paul doing shows in South America in April are true, well guess what? This Friday is the beginning of March, and there has been NO WORD of the band rehearsing or anything like that. There may be stealth practices going on, I don't know. But all indications are the South American shows will be pretty much what we have seen and heard already. Or maybe not.
Interesting, I think honestly that Paul will still be "On the Run" for South America and Europe, and then will release the new album in October and tour the US for support. Or maybe be could release the album after South America and tour Europe first.
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Macca and the band sometimes rehearse literally a week or so before tour dates begin. Though, really, if there is new/fresh stuff to do wouldn't it take longer? Really, there is no logic in jetting off on tour before the album release. If you're going to tour and you're finishing off a new album the logic would be to finish it off completely, release it and then tour so everywhere you go gets to hear a few songs from it. If there are concert dates in April/May and no album is released then it may very well be, more or less, the same old show again. And what's the point of that? He may as well use that time to finish the album and come back later. Unless the surprise is he samples new songs before its release. Come to think of it... is there any logic at all in anything Paul does? People on here are divided... those with very high hopes and those who are sceptical. So we're either going to be blown away this year, or disappointed. All this talk about new album and 'fresh' tour preparations. If we are disappointed then can they blame us?
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FrankieJ:
... All this talk about new album and 'fresh' tour preparations. If we are disappointed then can they blame us?
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moptops:
audi:
Paul McCartney is the man who dared to out-do The Beatles when he formed Wings. That's the guy that I admire, and that's the guy I'm expecting to see, going forward in 2013.
You missed that boat, young man.
I think you're wrong.
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Some new rumours about Wrocław! Polish press writes that the official announcement of the show will happen after signing a contract in the beginning of March. The municipality of Wrocław is ready to give one million of złotyi for the preparating to the show. http://wroclaw.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35771,13466535,Czy_miasto_dofinansuje_wroclawski_koncert_Paula_McCartneya_.html http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/artykul/770705,wroclaw-miasto-da-milion-na-koncert-paula-mccartneya,id,t.html?cookie=1
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Daydream Believer:
Some new rumours about Wrocław! Polish press writes that the official announcement of the show will happen after signing a contract in the beginning of March. The municipality of Wrocław is ready to give one million of złotyi for the preparating to the show. http://wroclaw.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35771,13466535,Czy_miasto_dofinansuje_wroclawski_koncert_Paula_McCartneya_.html http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/artykul/770705,wroclaw-miasto-da-milion-na-koncert-paula-mccartneya,id,t.html?cookie=1
Sounds promising! Has Paul ever been to Poland? I hope he does. I'm going to Google translate it.
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Daydream Believer:
Some new rumours about Wrocław! Polish press writes that the official announcement of the show will happen after signing a contract in the beginning of March. The municipality of Wrocław is ready to give one million of złotyi for the preparating to the show. http://wroclaw.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35771,13466535,Czy_miasto_dofinansuje_wroclawski_koncert_Paula_McCartneya_.html http://www.gazetawroclawska.pl/artykul/770705,wroclaw-miasto-da-milion-na-koncert-paula-mccartneya,id,t.html?cookie=1
Awesome! Good luck!
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RMartinez:
I can appreciate the iron willed optimism of some of you, but facts are facts. For McCartney to do the major overhaul of his show you all want, he will need more than a week of rehearsals with the band, which is what he has been doing for a few years now, then performing GREAT shows, but essentially the same show. If you can reach back into your memory, McCartney usually rehearses a new show in a big venue somewhere in London, so not only can new songs be practiced, but new staging and lighting. If all the rumors about Paul doing shows in South America in April are true, well guess what? This Friday is the beginning of March, and there has been NO WORD of the band rehearsing or anything like that. There may be stealth practices going on, I don't know. But all indications are the South American shows will be pretty much what we have seen and heard already. Or maybe not.
It was confirmed by Brian Ray that the November gigs were the last bunch of 'On The Run' shows. At the announcement he stated through Twitter this were the final US On The Run gigs, while on tour he posted "last On the Run show tonight". Now it is true there isn't any logic behind that. McCartney went through 4 tour names 2009-2012 with the exact same main set. McCartney can easily rehearse at his usual London space, the Music Bank in London - the one you see in those rehearsal videos on his YouTube-channel - in complete anonymity for weeks without any of us knowing anything. Those things aren't getting reported. Hell, they even rehearsed for the second leg of the Up & Coming Tour in 2010 at Hog Hill Mill Studios. When McCartney is not on tour we know nothing about his whereabouts. Sometimes he's at a gala in LA, and then you read a few days later that he was spotted at a Stella McCartney show in Paris, and the same week dining in New York... Only at the moment they are putting together the whole package - the rehearsed songs, the corresponding light show, video animations and the likes - they are hiring something like the O2 Arena, and it isn't until then people are giving reports about McCartney being spotted over here. You aren't using that location and all that crew trying to nail the vocal harmonies on the bridge of 'Silly Love Songs' in rehearsals. Besides that, both Rusty Anderson and Brian Ray stated in the past they would often rehearse new songs ('Come And Get It', 'Back Seat Of My Car', 'Junior's Farm', 'Lovely Rita', 'The Night Before') for about a week, after which McCartney only comes in after that period and picks out what he believes what works best ('Drive My Car', 'Get Back', 'Back In The USSR', 'I Saw Her Standing There'). The inside source who last December brought us the big news about McCartney putting together "a major tour [..] starting in April" - which is turning out to be the truth - stated the band would rehearse new material in January.
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I hope this is an exciting and awesome year for all of us, then. I really hope.
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nobodytoldme:
RMartinez:
I can appreciate the iron willed optimism of some of you, but facts are facts. For McCartney to do the major overhaul of his show you all want, he will need more than a week of rehearsals with the band, which is what he has been doing for a few years now, then performing GREAT shows, but essentially the same show. If you can reach back into your memory, McCartney usually rehearses a new show in a big venue somewhere in London, so not only can new songs be practiced, but new staging and lighting. If all the rumors about Paul doing shows in South America in April are true, well guess what? This Friday is the beginning of March, and there has been NO WORD of the band rehearsing or anything like that. There may be stealth practices going on, I don't know. But all indications are the South American shows will be pretty much what we have seen and heard already. Or maybe not.
It was confirmed by Brian Ray that the November gigs were the last bunch of 'On The Run' shows. At the announcement he stated through Twitter this were the final US On The Run gigs, while on tour he posted "last On the Run show tonight". Now it is true there isn't any logic behind that. McCartney went through 4 tour names 2009-2012 with the exact same main set. McCartney can easily rehearse at his usual London space, the Music Bank in London - the one you see in those rehearsal videos on his YouTube-channel - in complete anonymity for weeks without any of us knowing anything. Those things aren't getting reported. Hell, they even rehearsed for the second leg of the Up & Coming Tour in 2010 at Hog Hill Mill Studios. When McCartney is not on tour we know nothing about his whereabouts. Sometimes he's at a gala in LA, and then you read a few days later that he was spotted at a Stella McCartney show in Paris, and the same week dining in New York... Only at the moment they are putting together the whole package - the rehearsed songs, the corresponding light show, video animations and the likes - they are hiring something like the O2 Arena, and it isn't until then people are giving reports about McCartney being spotted over here. You aren't using that location and all that crew trying to nail the vocal harmonies on the bridge of 'Silly Love Songs' in rehearsals. Besides that, both Rusty Anderson and Brian Ray stated in the past they would often rehearse new songs ('Come And Get It', 'Back Seat Of My Car', 'Junior's Farm', 'Lovely Rita', 'The Night Before') for about a week, after which McCartney only comes in after that period and picks out what he believes what works best ('Drive My Car', 'Get Back', 'Back In The USSR', 'I Saw Her Standing There'). The inside source who last December brought us the big news about McCartney putting together "a major tour [..] starting in April" - which is turning out to be the truth - stated the band would rehearse new material in January.
You are layin' down the law. Love it.
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I can almost forgive him for the cancelled Denmark gigs if he comes to Wroclaw! Close enough for me
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audi:
[..] You are layin' down the law. Love it.
Haha, I'm not even trying to argue about this, it wasn't meant like that anyway, we are both on the same page I hope. Even tried to put in a bit of humour (the 'Drive My Car' part
), but sometimes a certain tone could go lost in translation in print, even more so on the internet.