The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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VOTER REGISTRATION: Unauthorized party switches exposed: http://blog.pe.com/watchdog/2012/10/29/voter-registration-unauthorized-party-switches-exposed/
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Mitt Romney Versus Reality: Auto Recovery Edition:
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al Sabah:
The_Fool:
Well I feel important now ..... (President) Bill Clinton called my house and left a message, Fred Thompson (Actor and one time Presidential candidate) and a few other big shots of the area .... all left messages on my answering machine .... I donno what they said now ... I deleted their messages
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Fred Thompson? You should hold out for Clint Eastwood.
While I found your reply amusing for a grin .... I didn't think it would actually come true
I came home after my work day and there was one message on my answering machine ..... and who was it? Clint Eastwood
Unbelievable .... you nailed it al Sabah
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Former FOX NEWS anchors/reporters tell the truth about this corrupt newschannel: Fox News, Lies and Distortions:
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What I love about MSNBC journalist Chris Mathews is that whenever an obviously uninformed conservative* yells out a GOP talking-point, he calls them out, asking for specifics... ...and they look stupid. Every time. Because they don't know what they're talking about. Two videos to illustrate my point:
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Yes, folks...FIXED, er, FOX NEWS has managed to top itself... 'Fox and Friends' accuses NBC of using hurricane benefit concert to boost Obama: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/02/fox-news-hurricane-sandy-obama/
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GARY JOHNSON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! VOTE LIBERTARIAN PARTY! Only Gary Johnson is committed to lower tax, small government and individual rughts and freedom. Go on, vote for a candidate that actually stands for something truely different. If I was American he'd get my vote.
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chrisstevens:
GARY JOHNSON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! VOTE LIBERTARIAN PARTY! Only Gary Johnson is committed to lower tax, small government and individual rughts and freedom. Go on, vote for a candidate that actually stands for something truely different. If I was American he'd get my vote.
I would love to see a third party organize and strengthen over the next four years. For now, however, it's GOTTA be Obama.
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A credible third party would be good for American politics. Not Libertarianism, though. Just another branch of the right wing.
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If you'd told me five years ago that in 2012 the U.S. would give -- not just a first -- but a SECOND legitimately elected term to a biracial man, I would've told you that you were on some serious crack. Thanks, America! The polls indicate that this will surely happen. (pssst, GOP....ya' might wanna stop nominating habitually lying, sociopathic megalomaniacs to represent your ticket. just a word of advice)
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What did Obama do in four years? Let's see:
4.3 Million new private sector jobs created.
39 straight months of job growth.
4.5 Million jobs saved from cuts or layoffs.
Auto Industry saved (1.3 million jobs- big 3, suppliers, retailers)
8 quarters of GDP growth now at 2.2%
All time record corporate profits.
Stock market doubled.
Incentives to hire unemployed veterans.
Income taxes at 62 year LOW.
Cut taxes for 160 Million Americans.
18 tax cuts for small businesses.
TARP managed and 95% recovered (will only cost ~$25
$1 Trillion in spending cuts.
Federal employment down 7 months via attrition and no new hiring, federal wages frozen.
Housing Settlement - Five big banks agreed to a record $25 billion settlement that spread relief widely in the form of mortgage relief and $2,000 payments to borrowers.
Credit Card Reform-Unfair credit card fees eliminated.
Wall Street Reform-Passed.
Affordable Care Act-Healthcare more affordable for all, covers children, stops dropping coverage, requires insurance companies to spend more on actual care vs. profits.
Seniors? Drug Cost Lowered over $400
College student loans increased and costs lowered.
Equal Pay Act For Women.
Tougher ethics requirements for administration.
START Nuclear Arms Treaty (ready if Congress would pass it)
Iraq War Ended, Afghanistan War-Winding Down.
Bin Laden-DEAD.
Anwar al-Awlaki-DEAD.
Libya Liberated, Muammar Gaddafi-DEAD.
New Vehicles fuel efficiency (CAFE) doubling.
U.S. Oil Production at 8 year high.
Natural gas production at all-time high.
Renewable energy production Up 27%
Wind and solar power production has doubled.
$100 Billion invested in science and research
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audi:
Character matters. Kerry has it. Romney doesn't.
Character is very important, but has little if anything to do with who has wealth and who does not.
audi:
I'd like that same question to be directed at our Republican-bullied Congress.
Are they endorsing Obama based on climate change? That would be unusual.
audi:
I'm surprised that you seemingly know so much about past Presidential candidates but know so little about the current Mayor of NYC, who is an Independent -- and a political heavyweight. And he is a leader in the climate-change movement.
Does seeming knowledge of American presidents equate actual knowledge of New York mayors? There is very little reason I would know all about their mayors. It means very little to me. In my defense, I can name 6 New York mayors. How many of my city's mayors can anyone here name? I was unaware that Bloomberg is a leader with respect to climate change. Thank you for a direct answer.
audi:
What I love about MSNBC journalist Chris Mathews is that whenever an obviously uninformed conservative* yells out a GOP talking-point, he calls them out, asking for specifics... ...and they look stupid. Every time. Because they don't know what they're talking about.
Do you not see the irony in this statement?
audi:
(pssst, GOP....ya' might wanna stop nominating habitually lying, sociopathic megalomaniacs to represent your ticket. just a word of advice)
Do you truly believe Romney is a sociopath?
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mustangsally10:
About Bloomberg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Bloomberg Bloomberg's endorsement Obama: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-01/a-vote-for-a-president-to-lead-on-climate-change.html Obama did best he could on climate change with total obstruction by republicans in congress
The Wikipedia page has one small paragraph on climate change. It does mention that he was a Democrat before becoming a Republican to get elected. If Obama did his best in his first term and little changed, is it safe to assume that he cannot do better on this issue?
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The_Fool:
While I found your reply amusing for a grin .... I didn't think it would actually come true
I came home after my work day and there was one message on my answering machine ..... and who was it? Clint Eastwood
Unbelievable .... you nailed it al Sabah
You should not doubt my powers of predicting the obvious.
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al Sabah:
mustangsally10:
About Bloomberg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Bloomberg Bloomberg's endorsement Obama: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-01/a-vote-for-a-president-to-lead-on-climate-change.html Obama did best he could on climate change with total obstruction by republicans in congress
The Wikipedia page has one small paragraph on climate change. It does mention that he was a Democrat before becoming a Republican to get elected. If Obama did his best in his first term and little changed, is it safe to assume that he cannot do better on this issue?
The Bloomberg endorsement lists some of Obama's accomplishments on reducing carbon emissions. It's safe to assume that since Obama's greatest obstacle to climate change action has been the republicans that eliminating as many republicans as possible would be best way to promote climate change action. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/09/14/851501/house-republicans-voted-against-the-environment-more-than-300-times-since-2011/
Under GOP leadership, the House has voted 302 times against the environment since 2011, according to the latest report from House Energy and Commerce Committee Democrats. More than one hundred of these votes have favored profits in the oil and gas industry. Since June, the House has added 55 votes and counting to this list, amounting to more than one vote for every day it has been in session. Here is a breakdown of some of Republicans? votes against clean energy and in favor of oil: ? 133 votes targeting the Environmental Protection Agency ? 54 target the Department of Energy ? 128 block measures preventing pollution ? 55 to defund or repeal clean energy initaitives ? 47 votes to promote offshore drilling
I see that your country is a major exporter of crude to the US. So perhaps any move to a clean energy future in US and other major industrial countries is a threat to Kuwait. http://www.embassyofkuwait.ca/pages/Economy/Oil.htm
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I made the observation that Romney is a sociopath months ago. The shameless, sometimes same-day flip-flops, combined with his attacking the gay kid in high school and cutting his hair, plus Romney causing his blind teacher to walk into a door, I am convinced that Mitt Romney is incapable of feeling guilt.
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audi:
chrisstevens:
GARY JOHNSON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! VOTE LIBERTARIAN PARTY! Only Gary Johnson is committed to lower tax, small government and individual rughts and freedom. Go on, vote for a candidate that actually stands for something truely different. If I was American he'd get my vote.
I **would love to see a third party organize and strengthen over the next four years.**For now, however, it's GOTTA be Obama.
Do you say that for any third party for the benefit of democracy in general or for the Libertarian Party? Of the 2 I think Obama will win this, but it looks to go down neck and neck between them. Not to sure about Romney, I'm sure there are a few policies I'd agree with, but he just seems to be another big state, big government type. My politics are mainly right wing, but of the Libertarian variety.
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chrisstevens:
audi:
chrisstevens:
GARY JOHNSON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! VOTE LIBERTARIAN PARTY! Only Gary Johnson is committed to lower tax, small government and individual rughts and freedom. Go on, vote for a candidate that actually stands for something truely different. If I was American he'd get my vote.
I **would love to see a third party organize and strengthen over the next four years.**For now, however, it's GOTTA be Obama.
Do you say that for any third party for the benefit of democracy in general or for the Libertarian Party? Of the 2 I think Obama will win this, but it looks to go down neck and neck between them. Not to sure about Romney, I'm sure there are a few policies I'd agree with, but he just seems to be another big state, big government type. My politics are mainly right wing, but of the Libertarian variety.
I support the idea of not only a third party, but, heck, why not a fourth or fifth one? I consider all points of view and make decisions as informed as my little brain can process.
Realistically, when it comes to fiscal responsibility, it has been the Democrats who've been balancing budgets, and it has been the Republicans who have ballooned the deficits. Obama -- like Clinton -- made the tough but necessary decision to stimulate the economy, following a disastrous previous Republican administration. Why did the Republicans pass Medicare Part D when the Congressional Budget Office told them that it would surely add hundreds of billions of dollars to the deficit? Why did the Republicans pass Bush's prescription drug legislation when -- again -- they were warned by the CBO that it would add hundreds of billions to the deficit? Why didn't George Bush include Dick Cheney's Iraq farce in the budget? Is that fiscal responsibility?
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Oh boy I'm about to climb the walls, wish Election Day would arrive pronto (if Obama's goingto win)-- some indications point to an Obama win, including more women are voting for him in Ohio than for Romney, by a wide margin
Mayor Bloomberg endorsed Obama yesterday. On CNN's Piers Morgan last night, a Vanity Fair mag editor said the top poll analyzer stated Obama has a "70 percent chance to win, Romney a 30 percent chance"
On a local level, I've seen a lot more Obama/Biden signs than Romney/Ryan signs