AMEX presale includes copy of new album!
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nobodytoldme:
I would go for 'Disney Girls' by Bruce Johnston alone. I might make it to Dusseldorf.
Don't hesitate to go. There will be lots of deep cuts from Today, Pet Sounds, Wild Honey, Surf's Up, Holland etc. Great songs, excellently played. You can't go wrong.
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nobodytoldme:
Nancy R:
nobodytoldme:
WixRocks!:
nobodytoldme:
Is the reason of this that they are finally going to do the sensible thing and make the upcoming album a good seller through this? Or is a tie-sale automatically not eligible for the charts? As far as I know a similar tour practice ("buy 10 copies, get the 10th one signed") got The (3/4) Beach Boys to #1 at last in 2012.
What is the 3/4 Beach Boys? This was their reunion tour/album with all five living members, and it got the record to #3 not #1. I'm not really sure why this worked so well...who wants ten copies of a CD. Plus, The Beach Boys will sign anything if you're polite and wait for the right time...lightyears easier than getting Paul's autograph. Anyway...is this an AMEX thing, or a VIP thing? Has anyone received an email that did NOT buy any sort of VIP package? Fron Row, Second Row, Sound Check, Gold etc...
I meant "a quarter" (was just a figure of speech, 2/5th) of the core members of the classic line-up missed, as you know. (I thought in the end it was still a very worthwhile reunion and perfect farewell, mind.) And to get the signatures of all members at the big venues they did would be a hard plan to execute, especially with Brian Wilson who's being wheeled in and out the venue, and them wanting to keep their champagne package "meet and greet" aka "stand behind the members for a photo moment" cash cow a bit exclusive. Ah, then it was "highest charting album in 4 decades" or something, I was mistaken and thought it was the first time they hit #1. Either way it was a big unexpected chart success, and I don't even know if that deal helped towards that. In my opinion it was a decent deal. Those other 9 CD's would be easily to get rid of, if the price was 100 bucks you can give away a few and sell the rest and you will have a few nice presents and a signed copy for maybe 30-40 dollar, not bad. Anyway, each ticket holder to these gigs should get an album, would be even more efficient than the Sunday Times deal for 'Memory Almost Full'.
I'm still confused. You saw 75% of The Beach Boys you mean? 3/4, i.e. 3 out of the 4 original members? Or what? ("a quarter" is 1/4)
P.S. I agree, everyone who bought a ticket since the shows first went on sale should get an album!
Like said, it was figure of speech. I didn't exactly count the original members vs. dead members and went for a quick "1/4 Beach Boys", later looked it up and said "2/5th". My point was you can't do a true band reunion when 2 out of 5 familiar faces, lead singers, harmony members, instrumentalist and co-writers are dead. But also like said, I think it was a worthy ending after all, you couldn't get more closer to The Beach Boys in 2012 than what they did, especially with adding all loose members as well. And if you wanna know, I saw 3 ... out of 5, but not on the same stage. Mike Love only while playing tambourine or whatever on 'Cosmically Conscious'
. His Faux Beach Boys - do I have to explain this one as well hehe...? - are finally coming to Europe and are playing fair parades and small theatres. Meanwhile, Brian Wilson is touring the latest run of 'Pet Sounds' for a full year now - also comes to Europe, 100+ euro tickets - across all continents - it can be done - and with another year planned he's bored and begins to change the material up a bit...
Don't get bent out of shape, I just wondered who you saw. I saw (and met all of them except Brian) all of them in 1978 (Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al and Bruce), then saw Mike in 2005 and again in 2014 (at AROTR that time) but I can't recall if Al and/or Bruce were with him either time. Just Bruce in 2014 I think. And I know that Brian tours separately now and how Mike sued Brian...etc, etc.
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There is so much to say to all of the false Beach Boys information on this thread that I don't even know where to start...so I won't.
Has anyone from any of the first nights at an NYC venue received an email about the CD, and what was your ticket type and means of purchase?
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WixRocks!:
There is so much to say to all of the false Beach Boys information on this thread that I don't even know where to start...so I won't. [..]
There's none, you just don't agree with it.
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I have first and second night tickets for MSG, paid for by Amex, and I have not received the email. Maybe it's because I live in England!
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Still nothing here. First night Newark, bought during AmEx presale.
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Thisbe211:
Still nothing here. First night Newark, bought during AmEx presale.
You think they work weekends?
Nothing here either.Although I did write them & got a response from ticketmaster: "We got your email! We are currently receiving a higher than normal number of inquiries. We apologize, as our current response time is longer than we would like. We will get back to you as soon as possible; however, please allow up to 72 hours" That's it. Probably the most I will ever hear back from them. It is probably an automated response.
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nobodytoldme:
WixRocks!:
There is so much to say to all of the false Beach Boys information on this thread that I don't even know where to start...so I won't. [..]
There's none, you just don't agree with it.
1. There's no such thing as a "familiar face" in the Beach Boys. 2. None of your attempts at math are correct. Technically, there have been nine official Beach Boys in their history. Two of which are dead and two of which were not invited to participate in the reunion tour, per Mike Love's request/demand. Of course, there have been seemingly countless members of the touring band dating back to the late 1960's when the instrumentation on the material was outgrowing the current five man touring lineup. 3. As Turk Thrust pointed out, Mike Love and Bruce Johnston's Beach Boys touring band, regularly visit Europe and typically on quite extensive tours playing some of the most daring setlists that any members of the band have attempted at an officially licensed Beach Boys concert. 4. Nobody "wonders why they're both still going through this". This is Mike Love's life blood. As for Brian Wilson? I think he is prompted through most of it by his wife and managers. Also, they're both highly motivated by cash...especially Mike. 5. It is worth noting in correction to Nancy G's post, that Al Jardine has never toured with the 21st century touring Beach Boys band, outside of the 2012 reunion tour. He toured with his Beach Boys Family and Friends band which sank fast as Mike sued the shit out of it for no good reason. He toured with Brian on and off prior to the reunion, and his been with him ever since. Now...what parts were the ones that I didn't agree with? Maybe I missed it.
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You seem very touchy every time I mention the Beach Boys reunion missing two core members. 1) They missed two core members, you can't get around that. Agreed? The classic line-up is Carl, Brian, Dennis, Jardine and Mike Love. You don't have to agree with this, but, Google Image "Beach Boys", 2 out of 5 people you see are dead. And I even consider Bruce Johnston a full member to be honest. Still makes it 2 out of 6. Every familiar promo photo features these 5 or 6 people. That makes them familiar faces. No one thinks about the 2 weeks - watch out, figure of speech again - Blondie Chaplin was officially part of the group. There's a reason only the Wilson brothers/family, Al Jardine and Mike Love own Brother Records, Inc. It's a harmony group now being incomplete. I consider especially Carl Wilson as a member you can't do without to make the group complete. That's my stance. Whenever they sang 'Good Vibrations' or 'God Only Knows' in 2012 you'd think: "ah, damn, he's dead, they're incomplete". You don't have to agree with this. Regardless, as I said, the fact the main composer of most of the classics plus the lead vocalist of many early hits was still there made it worthwhile enough, especially with all loose members being present as well. And again as said, I didn't always think of it like this, but I think it was the best they could do and a dignified farewell. It was hardly Dolenz and Tork performing billed as "The Monkees" these days. 2) There has been no "attempts at maths". 5 core members, 2 dead, 3/5th left, done. None of your attempts at understanding my point have been valid. And to consider the current touring Beach Boys as anything close to the full experience is just fooling yourself. Note, I'm in no camp, I'm not anti-Mike Love. As said, I would still attempt to go to his show now for a few moments (original lead singer(s) playing songs they (co-)wrote), but won't think I've seen "The Beach Boys". It's fantastic the current "Beach Boys" are having daring setlists, but to me it's pointless when for a huge chunk of the setlist you have a band performing songs they had no part in whatsoever. The early surf hits Mike Love sang lead on, that's all fine. Even for example 'Darlin', being played by about 5 (could be 6, you gotta be literal at this place these days...) session members, a spare Beach Boys member and one full Beach Boys member who co-wrote it and maybe sang harmony on, alright. But the harmony vocal tracks like for example 'Surfer Girl' which was written by Brian Wilson with him on lead vocals, and then not having him there? You're watching 1 Beach Boys member who wasn't prominently featured on a song with the rest of a band who plays a note-perfect rendition of a song they had nothing to do with it. That is why I sometimes make a light stab at that. If he would be touring under his own name it would be a totally different story. 3) This is my mistake, I meant "finally to The Netherlands" since I didn't hear of any Mike Love tour near in the past decade at all, and should have been clearer. I also said "finally to me". I heard about the short mostly UK stints and some EU summer festivals (nothing extensive at all at one time, mostly up to one week) in the past decade, but even the 2012 reunion tour was like 10 dates. I was in London when he played the Royal Albert Hall, but wasn't interested. The last time any group named The Beach Boys played here was probably even 1980. 4) A lot of people are wondering why the hell elderly people are still going through all that. For McCartney it's simple, he's amazing at it, he gets a kick out of it and loves the insane amount of cash he can generate through it. For Mike Love it's simple as well, it's what he loves and has done all his life. I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking about doing the mentioned 12 days in a row through (in and out) 8 countries at one point, one day break, 3 days, one day break, 3 days, and then straight into 2 full months of the US again without a break. I was genuinely wondering why they plan it as such, even young acts don't put that much pressure on themselves. He doesn't need it for the money. I wasn't knocking it, respect to him. For Brian Wilson I more wondered why others put him through it. 5) Yes, and? Not sure what this is a reaction on. If Al Jardine would perform solo these days, I would go out to see him, to hear him sing 'Help Me Rhonda', but not for a "Beach Boys & Friends" type of gig. Now... not sure what triggered this reaction, but I hope you didn't miss more of my points and this cleared things up.
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This is going nowhere real fast since you seem to have a very fuzzy line between "official Beach Boy" and "core member". Not to mention, you've completely ignored David Marks through this entire fiasco. An irreplaceable part in their first few records as well as the reunion tour. I haven't posed a single reaction to the passing of Carl & Dennis Wilson, so I don't know how I've been touchy in regards to that. It seems to me you're the one that's been touchy around here these days.
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Going back to topic now... Getting back to the album offer I bought first night MSG on AMEX with AMEX and did not get an album offer. As I said previously I bought two single tickets in two different transactions on the Paul presale for MSG second night with non AMEX card and received two email offers for CDs.
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gnome:
Going back to topic now... Getting back to the album offer I bought first night MSG on AMEX with AMEX and did not get an album offer. As I said previously I bought two single tickets in two different transactions on the Paul presale for MSG second night with non AMEX card and received two email offers for CDs.
This whole thing is incredibly confusing. They should've publicized this more from the outset, rather than making it a seemingly random selection of who gets an album offer.
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Seems that puppywhimpers is the only person here to have received a specific emailed offer from Amex for the NY area presale only, before the presales happened. Everyone else seems to have received an email offer from Ticketmaster after buying tickets to some of the second shows during those presales, no matter what credit card was used. It is definitely inconsistent and leaves a lot of ticket buyers out. I doubt that the VIP merch will include the CD. "New" cds were not included when that album was released.
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neeta68:
I have first and second night tickets for MSG, paid for by Amex, and I have not received the email. Maybe it's because I live in England!
Did you buy from ticketmaster.com? If so, you should receive the email; however, when they ask to verify your address it's possible they won't accept anything outside the US, but who knows?!
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WixRocks!:
5. It is worth noting in correction to Nancy G's post, that Al Jardine has never toured with the 21st century touring Beach Boys band, outside of the 2012 reunion tour. He toured with his Beach Boys Family and Friends band which sank fast as Mike sued the s**t out of it for no good reason. He toured with Brian on and off prior to the reunion, and his been with him ever since.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you on that one as Mike had every right to stop Al from touring. Mike agreed to pay BRI, the group's company, a % from every show that he did for the use of the name and I believe has paid something like $25m since. Al wanted to use the name (with Family and Friends on the end) and didn't want to pay a penny. Not really surprising that everybody voted for Mike to be able to use the name, and nobody else voted for Al. And I say that as a big fan of Al...
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nobodytoldme:
It's fantastic the current "Beach Boys" are having daring setlists, but to me it's pointless when for a huge chunk of the setlist you have a band performing songs they had no part in whatsoever. The early surf hits Mike Love sang lead on, that's all fine. Even for example 'Darlin', being played by about 5 (could be 6, you gotta be literal at this place these days...) session members, a spare Beach Boys member and one full Beach Boys member who co-wrote it and maybe sang harmony on, alright. But the harmony vocal tracks like for example 'Surfer Girl' which was written by Brian Wilson with him on lead vocals, and then not having him there? You're watching 1 Beach Boys member who wasn't prominently featured on a song with the rest of a band who plays a note-perfect rendition of a song they had nothing to do with it. That is why I sometimes make a light stab at that. If he would be touring under his own name it would be a totally different story.
I hope that you don't mind me saying, but I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. From a recent 43-song gig that they did, I would say that maybe 8 or 9 songs fall into that category.
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Turk Thrust:
WixRocks!:
5. It is worth noting in correction to Nancy G's post, that Al Jardine has never toured with the 21st century touring Beach Boys band, outside of the 2012 reunion tour. He toured with his Beach Boys Family and Friends band which sank fast as Mike sued the s**t out of it for no good reason. He toured with Brian on and off prior to the reunion, and his been with him ever since.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you on that one as Mike had every right to stop Al from touring. Mike agreed to pay BRI, the group's company, a % from every show that he did for the use of the name and I believe has paid something like $25m since. Al wanted to use the name (with Family and Friends on the end) and didn't want to pay a penny. Not really surprising that everybody voted for Mike to be able to use the name, and nobody else voted for Al. And I say that as a big fan of Al...
You aren't wrong at all. My point was more to highlight how it is such a business to them, so far more than it is about making music...particularly Mike.
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It's nice to get a copy of the new album but in my experience before with these things, they don't come on release day and at times are weeks past. So I don't really care so much, I will get mine immediately and figure out what to do with the spares at a later time
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I got my tix thru AMEX presale in MIA and didn't receive anything.