Has Paul played his last concert?
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Paul is a great artist. Great artists don't seem to stop their "art" at retirement age, because it's not really a job, it's an expression of who they've been all their life. Don't see Paul stopping expressing who he has been most of his life. Paul is "the" music man and don't see that stopping, he continually expands (for example It's A Wonderful Life). He will always be music somehow.
Never said he would not continue to write music and maybe record a new album, believe I said that in earlier post. I am talking about touring and doing close to 3 hr concerts. Even if he cut shows down to 1 1/2 hrs that is still a lot for a man who will be 80 fairly soon. He is not like Ringo and has other people play a song or two from his band.
Couldn't agree with Yankeefan more. Contrary to most of the aging Rock/Pop music artists from the 60's and 70's that are still around, Paul can still write excellent songs in a variety of genres and in many cases with better lyrics than many of his Post Beatles' songs from the 70's. I look at albums like Flaming Pie, Chaos, Memory Almost Full, New, Egypt Station etc. and his ability to write good to great songs is still plenty there. Conversely, the excitement of his live shows has long since waned. Part of this is due to his current tour voice and the sameness of his shows. I know that there are some that will disagree with me but there are not many bigger fans of Mr. McCartney than myself.
Selfishly thinking, I would much rather Paul use his time writing a couple of new albums, new singles, songs for movies or as Yankeefan said, his new music for "It's a Wonderful Life". I would rather Paul save his voice and sing in perfect, studio conditions rather than continue to destroy his voice with these long, grueling tours. While his current voice isn't close to his vocals from 20, 30 or 40 years ago, I thought his "older voice" on Egypt Station for the most part was very good. I personnally thought that Paul's chemistry with Greg Kurstin (the overwhelming main producer for Egypt Station) proved that Paul can still create a great album. I would prefer that Paul continues to work with Greg rather than putting so much time on tours.
Hopefully all of us will be able to travel again after this terrible virus ends. I hope the same for Paul. Since Paul seems to draw so much of his music inspiration from travel, I wish for Paul many more years of travelling and more inspiration for great songs. He should enjoy himself with Nancy and see new things for many more years.
You and I are on the same page BJ. He can do plenty of things to keep him busy and not have to tour. The musical "It's A Wonderful Life" will probably occupy him for awhile and once they start putting the show on stage they will need him for possible re-writes of songs or maybe additional songs. Wouldn't it be cool if he did one more Fireman album. He enjoys painting, maybe he can put together a "show" of his artwork. I am sure you might like it if he got around to and was involved with doing Anthology of his solo work the last 40 years. Like you said, he loves to travel so why not do it without it being part of some work project. Finally, a Paul McCartney show is not a big event anymore IMO unless he is playing in town that he has never played before and how many of those can be left at this point - just teasing everyone. We will see what happens but I would not be shocked if in 2021 there is no tour.
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Unless the coronavirus comes back in 2021, I would be shocked if Paul DIDN'T tour in 2021. jmho
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Nancy R wrote:
Unless the coronavirus comes back in 2021, I would be shocked if Paul DIDN'T tour in 2021. jmho
Who knows if it will be gone by 2021.
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oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
Unless the coronavirus comes back in 2021, I would be shocked if Paul DIDN'T tour in 2021. jmho
Who knows if it will be gone by 2021.
Eventually it has to, after enough people have it and recover, or die. Sad fact.
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Before all this I'd felt that he was going to make Glastonbury his last UK concert. And if he plays it in 2021 I still feel that's the case. Which would make his London show with ringo turning up Dec 2018 his last UK show of his own so to speak.
I know it's not def, and he's never announce it, it's just a feeling I have.
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I've got a feeling alot of these older artists will be performing farewell shows once this gets under control.
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puppywhimpers wrote:
I've got a feeling alot of these older artists will be performing farewell shows once this gets under control.
Elton John was already on his farewell tour and I think you are correct, others will follow.
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Paul,Stones,Dylan etc probably have played their last shows. Perhaps some one offs here and there, but full touring is done IMO. Until their is a vaccine who wants to be in an arena/stadium with 20,000-50,000 people? Good luck selling tickets.
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If this turns out to be true...ugh!
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/04/health-expert-concerts-wont-return-fall-2021/
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Maccaroni1974 escribió:
Paul, Stones, Dylan, etc. probablemente hayan jugado sus últimos shows. Quizás alguien sale aquí y allá, pero la gira completa se realiza en mi opinión. ¿Hasta que haya una vacuna que quiera estar en una arena / estadio con 20,000-50,000 personas? Buena suerte vendiendo entradas.
Totally agree. Many artists are going to retire from live shows, and I am convinced that Paul will be one of them just like The Rolling Stones. In the fall of 2021 many of them will be 80 years old ... the dream is over!
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Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
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love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
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LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
I agree with you Leslie!
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Nancy R wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
I agree with you Leslie!
Well said Lady Leslie
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Yankeefan2 escribió:
love2travel escribió:
¡No te rindas! Se han encontrado varias drogas en el laboratorio, que matan esto en 48 horas en el laboratorio. Están tratando de obtener fondos para desarrollar una dosis. También van a probar los anticuerpos de las personas que lo superaron. Estos podrían funcionar temporalmente hasta que reciban una vacuna. Todos podrían estar rezando para que los científicos encuentren algo que funcione hasta que obtengamos una vacuna. Es realmente difícil, pero todos debemos rezar para que algo bueno como esto suceda pronto. Es realmente una posibilidad.
Todavía es una carrera contra el "Tiempo del Padre". Los artistas mencionados se están acercando rápidamente a los 80. Lo bien que lo hacen física / mentalmente puede cambiar en un instante. Todos somos bastante afortunados de que hayan envejecido con bastante gracia, eso no se puede esperar para siempre. Espero que tengas razón, pero lamentablemente creo que todo terminó para McCartney, los Stones, etc.
Experts explain that the return to normality will not be at least before 2022, until then, the distance between people will be two meters and must be strictly respected, among other precautionary measures. I am absolutely sure that live shows will be affected for two years.
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LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
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serpico71 wrote:
Yankeefan2 escribió:
love2travel escribió:
¡No te rindas! Se han encontrado varias drogas en el laboratorio, que matan esto en 48 horas en el laboratorio. Están tratando de obtener fondos para desarrollar una dosis. También van a probar los anticuerpos de las personas que lo superaron. Estos podrían funcionar temporalmente hasta que reciban una vacuna. Todos podrían estar rezando para que los científicos encuentren algo que funcione hasta que obtengamos una vacuna. Es realmente difícil, pero todos debemos rezar para que algo bueno como esto suceda pronto. Es realmente una posibilidad.
Todavía es una carrera contra el "Tiempo del Padre". Los artistas mencionados se están acercando rápidamente a los 80. Lo bien que lo hacen física / mentalmente puede cambiar en un instante. Todos somos bastante afortunados de que hayan envejecido con bastante gracia, eso no se puede esperar para siempre. Espero que tengas razón, pero lamentablemente creo que todo terminó para McCartney, los Stones, etc.
Experts explain that the return to normality will not be at least before 2022, until then, the distance between people will be two meters and must be strictly respected, among other precautionary measures. I am absolutely sure that live shows will be affected for two years.
Always look on the bright side of life!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
Thanks, Yankeefan2, I think he will defy the odds. Look at Mick Jagger, he had open heart surgery and was out in a short time getting ready to rock again. I think we shouldn't underestimate these Sixties Rockers, they're made of tough stuff!
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Once some of the stay-at-home restrictions are lifted, even if Paul can't do big arena, stadium or outdoor festival concerts for pandemic-related reasons, I think he'll find ways to perform. Paul seems to love embracing new technology and new ways of reaching his audience, so barring something terrible, I think Paul will find a way to perform live with his band and entertain us in some type of concert performance. It may be non-traditional, but I don't expect Paul to fade away. He's healthy, energized, and loves to entertain. As long as possible, I think he'll try to go on -- and go out -- on his own terms. I live in hope of deliverance that we have not come to the end of the end!