Paul McCartney, Elton John Set for Coronavirus Charity Special
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Caesmo79 wrote:
Excuse me but I liked it. It is a different version of Lady Madonna and was one of the few non-depressing songs on the show.
To each their own, if you liked it well am glad for you. After the song I did not say a word for a minute or so. I finally turned to my wife and said that was pretty bad. She says to me I did not want to say anything because I know how much you love Paul but maybe it is time for him to hang it up. Trust me, my wife loves McCartney and tries her best to find the good in anything but she just could not do it with this performance. Oh well.
Loved your honesty Yankeefan. My wife and I got into a good movie that we hadn't seen before around 8:oo last night so I didn't see his performance on TV. Just saw it for the first time this morning. My sister did see it and sent me a text last night and she is very much like your wife. She loves Paul (although not the crazy Paul fan that I am) and she said his singing was terrible. That shocked me because my sister always sticks up for Paul. She and I saw Paul in 2002 and 2005 and she loved the shows. In essence, I knew what to expect when I finally watched the video on this site this morning.
Being such a big time Paul fan, I was very familiar with this arrangement of Lady Madonna. As others have said (and thanks for the person who posted the original arrangement here) I remember Paul doing this arrangement on the Chaos and Creation special (with a live audience) that he did. I always liked that arrangement because it was so different but as Nancy said, this was back from like 2006 when Paul's voice was still very good. So while I liked the arrangement, this is a case in my opinion where Paul is alone without his other band members covering up his current vocal abilities and really showing how bad his current voice really is. The other factor relative to Paul's performance last night is for people not familiar with Paul's current 70 year old plus voice is the "shock" of hearing how bad his current voice really is. Unfortunately not a good showing in general for Paul. I didn't see Paul's opening statements before he launched into the song, but it seems to have been very heartfelt so I will give Paul credit for being very authentic about this awful pandemic. In retrospect, however, I would have preferred Paul doing a "zoom" thing( like the Stones did) where all the band members would have been in the performance and most importantly his band members would have joined in the vocals and where Wix would have handled more of the music instruments to make it sound more professional. On one of my last posts here, I had said that I hoped Paul was going to go in that direction of having his band members participate but Paul went the total authentic route and there are definitely 2 sides of that story.
As far as the song choice, i think everybody here knows my feeling. Why do a song he has done a million times before when he has so many great Solo songs he could have done. Either one of the "hope" songs would have been great and more pertinent to this Global pandemis. I could go on forever about his song choices and i'm running out of time presentlyl.
Thanks for your perspective BJ. Good points about doing "Zoom" and having other members of the band like the Stones. Yep, I agree with doing one of the "Hope" songs but you and I have been down that road before many times - ha ha. Kestrel said on the BBC this moring there was no mention of McCartney performing and IMO that says it all when a rock legend icon like McCartney is ignored. I guess the only positive I can get about him last night is he is safe and doing ok.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Caesmo79 wrote:
Excuse me but I liked it. It is a different version of Lady Madonna and was one of the few non-depressing songs on the show.
To each their own, if you liked it well am glad for you. After the song I did not say a word for a minute or so. I finally turned to my wife and said that was pretty bad. She says to me I did not want to say anything because I know how much you love Paul but maybe it is time for him to hang it up. Trust me, my wife loves McCartney and tries her best to find the good in anything but she just could not do it with this performance. Oh well.
Loved your honesty Yankeefan. My wife and I got into a good movie that we hadn't seen before around 8:oo last night so I didn't see his performance on TV. Just saw it for the first time this morning. My sister did see it and sent me a text last night and she is very much like your wife. She loves Paul (although not the crazy Paul fan that I am) and she said his singing was terrible. That shocked me because my sister always sticks up for Paul. She and I saw Paul in 2002 and 2005 and she loved the shows. In essence, I knew what to expect when I finally watched the video on this site this morning.
Being such a big time Paul fan, I was very familiar with this arrangement of Lady Madonna. As others have said (and thanks for the person who posted the original arrangement here) I remember Paul doing this arrangement on the Chaos and Creation special (with a live audience) that he did. I always liked that arrangement because it was so different but as Nancy said, this was back from like 2006 when Paul's voice was still very good. So while I liked the arrangement, this is a case in my opinion where Paul is alone without his other band members covering up his current vocal abilities and really showing how bad his current voice really is. The other factor relative to Paul's performance last night is for people not familiar with Paul's current 70 year old plus voice is the "shock" of hearing how bad his current voice really is. Unfortunately not a good showing in general for Paul. I didn't see Paul's opening statements before he launched into the song, but it seems to have been very heartfelt so I will give Paul credit for being very authentic about this awful pandemic. In retrospect, however, I would have preferred Paul doing a "zoom" thing( like the Stones did) where all the band members would have been in the performance and most importantly his band members would have joined in the vocals and where Wix would have handled more of the music instruments to make it sound more professional. On one of my last posts here, I had said that I hoped Paul was going to go in that direction of having his band members participate but Paul went the total authentic route and there are definitely 2 sides of that story.
As far as the song choice, i think everybody here knows my feeling. Why do a song he has done a million times before when he has so many great Solo songs he could have done. Either one of the "hope" songs would have been great and more pertinent to this Global pandemis. I could go on forever about his song choices and i'm running out of time presentlyl.
Thanks for your perspective BJ. Good points about doing "Zoom" and having other members of the band like the Stones. Yep, I agree with doing one of the "Hope" songs but you and I have been down that road before many times - ha ha. Kestrel said on the BBC this moring there was no mention of McCartney performing and IMO that says it all when a rock legend icon like McCartney is ignored. I guess the only positive I can get about him last night is he is safe and doing ok.
Thanks Yankeefan and like you, I am a little down this morning. The McCartney haters will be in full bloom today.
Getting back to the Lady Madonna arangement, I did like it on the Chaos and Creation show back in 2006. That arrangement was not only different but it had that soulful vocal when Paul could sing it well.
I don't expect this performance will change Paul's mind about "touring" but as you and I have said, I just wish Paul would concentrate on writing new songs and albums for his future in music. The last couple of days my wife and I have been out in the car doing some errands and just getting out of the house. We had Egypt Station on the car CD player and listening to many of the E S songs. Even my wife who is not a big Paul McCartney fan said that she likes his voice on many of the songs. I have felt that way all along and when you go a few weeks without hearing the album, I like his voice even better. Of course, I am more used to it than people who are more Beatle Paul fans. I still think that Greg Kurstin did a great job producing Egypt Station and getting Paul to sound as good as he does in the "perfect condition"studio especially compared to something "live" like last night. Like you have said, I would much prefer Paul working on new songs with Greg Kurstin (and eventually creating a new album) than doing these grueling tours and further wrecking his voice. I for one have no interest in hearing Paul with half the voice he once had doing "live shows" with the same greatly repetitious setlist. Sorry didn't mean to get into the setlist debate.
Paul in perfect studio conditions and with a great producer like Greg can still do a great album with his older voice. Egypt Station proved it to me. When I hear his vocals on Happy With You, I Don't Know, People Want Peace (great harmony with his band), Hand in Hand, Dominoes (again great Band vocal participation), Do It Now, Despite Repeated Warnings, Hunt You Down etc., Paul can still make a great album even with his more limited vocals. That is what I want to see from Paul in the future. Unfortunately I don't see it happening.
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Kestrel wrote:
Paul sounded very breathless and that was just his spoken introduction. But then I work with a guy who's Paul's age and he's often breathless too so I'm not really surprised.
As for the performance itself, well if that had been a Paul McCartney tribute act, they'd never work again.
But the sentiment is there and there's no denying the thrill of seeing and hearing an up-to-date performance from Paul, especially singing a song he first recorded 52 years ago.
On the BBC News this morning, they mentioned Elton John, the Rolling Stones and Taylor Swift. No mention at all for Paul which kind of sums up how important he is viewed in the UK these days.
On your final point, I think it is more of a reflection on how bad the performance was. The Rolling Stones' performance was far superior
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By the way, the movie that kept me from seeing Paul on TV last night was called:
LION starring Dev Patel and Nicole Kidman.
I would highly recommend this movie to anyone. It was fantastic about a small Indian boy who got lost on a train and ended up being adopted by a married couple living in Australia. Production and Acting was great.
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BJ I agree, I would love him to concentrate on writing new songs for a new album. Like you stated, he can still sound pretty good in the studio with the right producer and songs. I had bad vibes about this performance and mentioned early in the thread I hope it comes off well. Sadly, his performance was what I was afraid might happen. He picked a Beatle song that most people will know but totally changed the arrangement that the casual fan would probably not appreciate or like. If you want to play something that is well known and you are famous for, keep the arrangement the same. (isn't that the point of playing something people know). The technology he used was not good and people like the Stones did it better. McCartney like other artists had time to prepare so there is no excuse not to use the best technology available. Finally, he did not sound good at all and I am used to his "older" voice . Kudos to McCartney for performing and trying to help raise money. His message before the song was also very nice. I just think he is no longer very good at these one or two songs type of performances especially without the band. The last short performance (12 minutes) that I think he did very well was the Super Bowl many years ago.
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JonathanM1989 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
On the BBC News this morning, they mentioned Elton John, the Rolling Stones and Taylor Swift. No mention at all for Paul which kind of sums up how important he is viewed in the UK these days.
On your final point, I think it is more of a reflection on how bad the performance was. The Rolling Stones' performance was far superior
I would totally agree. They sounded very together (ironically), as if they had put a lot of time and effort in their performance so any plaudits coming their way are very well deserved. I wasn't over impressed by Elton though,despite having a decent mic (unlike Paul) but being recorded out of doors is never an easy task.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
BJ I agree, I would love him to concentrate on writing new songs for a new album. Like you stated, he can still sound pretty good in the studio with the right producer and songs. I had bad vibes about this performance and mentioned early in the thread I hope it comes off well. Sadly, his performance was what I was afraid might happen. He picked a Beatle song that most people will know but totally changed the arrangement that the casual fan would probably not appreciate or like. If you want to play something that is well known and you are famous for, keep the arrangement the same. (isn't that the point of playing something people know). The technology he used was not good and people like the Stones did it better. McCartney like other artists had time to prepare so there is no excuse not to use the best technology available. Finally, he did not sound good at all and I am used to his "older" voice . Kudos to McCartney for performing and trying to help raise money. His message before the song was also very nice. I just think he is no longer very good at these one or two songs type of performances especially without the band. The last short performance (12 minutes) that I think he did very well was the Super Bowl many years ago.
I agree 100% with your summation about last night. I also liked his performance on the Super Bowl in 2005.
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Yankeefan2 wrote: Kestrel said on the BBC this moring there was no mention of McCartney performing and IMO that says it all when a rock legend icon like McCartney is ignored. I guess the only positive I can get about him last night is he is safe and doing ok.
To be fair, the BBC couldn't name everyone of course but it wasn't that many years ago when Paul would have been automatically named first.
However worthy the cause I do wish Paul wouldn't jump in and get involved because everytime he does it seems his reputation just keeps getting chipped away at. There are a lot of UK acts such as Kate Bush for example who doesn't get involved with these events and no one thinks any less of her for not doing so.
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
How sad, that was incredibly awful. Terrible song choice, I could not believe he picked "Lady Madonna". I was absolutely shocked how terrible he sounded.
Agreed. Sappy story that preceded it as well. Shoulda stuck with Yesterday. He needs to take a page out of Jaggers book, color his hair again, move around a bit, and wear shoe lifts.
Between tonights embarrassment, MIA on SNL(horrible), the Olympics fiasco, and the Jay Z debacle we may never recover from the humiliation. Teenagers and millenials are laughing at us all around the world
Maccaroni...wonder why you are on this site. And you saying that "teenagers and millenials are laughing at us" is not very believable to my ears. I'm sure you are laughing as well.
It reminds me of the only time I saw the Stones live. It was back in 2011. A friend of mine had an extra Stones ticket in Philadelphia where I'm from. His brother had gotten sick. Since I had never seen them, I paid for the ticket and joined my friend. Ironically, I had seen Paul at the same venue in Philly about 4 or 5 months earlier.
While the Stones show was good and worth the money, there was a major difference in the 2 shows. The major difference was this:
The Stones had a big band with a lot of extra players and they had a bunch of background singers. All night I was waiting for Mick or Keith to speak to the audience but it never happened. They were parading around doing the "Rock God thing". Again the show was good and they played most of their hits but I could hardly ever hear Mick's voice with all the background singers who were mainly black singers with great voices.
What a contrast seeing Paul's show...He had just a 5 piece Band (his same band today) and he "talked" to the audience many times betwee songs. At the time they were interesting tidbits about the previous song. You heard his voice distinctly (this is when his voice was really good compared to today) and you felt like you knew him as a person. He was real and authentic compared to Mick and Keith who as I said were just playing their "Rock God" personnas. Both great shows back to back but I would go to a McCartney show anyday over the Stones at least at that time.
I was always a Beatles fan over the Stones because you felt like you knew all four members and they had much better albums. Also, I have always loved Macca's variety of genres. I don't find Paul's slower songs in general to be "sappy schlock" in any way. Paul can go great rockers but I love many of his mid-tempo songs and ballads.
As I said, this was 2011 when Paul's voice was loads better than today. In that show, Paul gave his fans many surprises like bringing back Venus and Mars/Rock Show, Ram On, Letting Go and 1985 from Band on the Run for the 1st time. On the Beatles side he did I'm Looking Through You, Michelle, Two of Us, and I've Just Seen a Face, 4 songs I hadn't heard him do before. Unfortunately, since that 2011 tour, Paul has not varied his Setlist and consequently with so many of the same songs, his show "banter" has gotten way too predictable. But his shows are real and Paul is very authentic when you see him in person. For a Greatest hits show, the Stones give a great concert but you certainly can't say that you know them after one of their concerts. As I said, Keith and especially Mick want to play the Rock Gods. If that is what you are looking for, I'm happy for you. But I've always been a Beatles' guy and will always be. I will give the Stones credit that they wait several years before doing a tour (and they probably need the money) but they don't overexpose their brand. Paul I feel has toured way too much which is a reason his shows have gotten stale.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
How sad, that was incredibly awful. Terrible song choice, I could not believe he picked "Lady Madonna". I was absolutely shocked how terrible he sounded.
Agreed. Sappy story that preceded it as well. Shoulda stuck with Yesterday. He needs to take a page out of Jaggers book, color his hair again, move around a bit, and wear shoe lifts.
Between tonights embarrassment, MIA on SNL(horrible), the Olympics fiasco, and the Jay Z debacle we may never recover from the humiliation. Teenagers and millenials are laughing at us all around the world
Maccaroni...wonder why you are on this site. And you saying that "teenagers and millenials are laughing at us" is not very believable to my ears. I'm sure you are laughing as well.
It reminds me of the only time I saw the Stones live. It was back in 2011. A friend of mine had an extra Stones ticket in Philadelphia where I'm from. His brother had gotten sick. Since I had never seen them, I paid for the ticket and joined my friend. Ironically, I had seen Paul at the same venue in Philly about 4 or 5 months earlier.
While the Stones show was good and worth the money, there was a major difference in the 2 shows. The major difference was this:
The Stones had a big band with a lot of extra players and they had a bunch of background singers. All night I was waiting for Mick or Keith to speak to the audience but it never happened. They were parading around doing the "Rock God thing". Again the show was good and they played most of their hits but I could hardly ever hear Mick's voice with all the background singers who were mainly black singers with great voices.
What a contrast seeing Paul's show...He had just a 5 piece Band (his same band today) and he "talked" to the audience many times betwee songs. At the time they were interesting tidbits about the previous song. You heard his voice distinctly (this is when his voice was really good compared to today) and you felt like you knew him as a person. He was real and authentic compared to Mick and Keith who as I said were just playing their "Rock God" personnas. Both great shows back to back but I would go to a McCartney show anyday over the Stones at least at that time.
I was always a Beatles fan over the Stones because you felt like you knew all four members and they had much better albums. Also, I have always loved Macca's variety of genres. I don't find Paul's slower songs in general to be "sappy schlock" in any way. Paul can do great rockers but I also love many of his mid-tempo songs and ballads.
As I said, this was 2011 when Paul's voice was loads better than today. In that show, Paul gave his fans many surprises like bringing back Venus and Mars/Rock Show, Ram On, Letting Go and 1985 from Band on the Run for the 1st time. On the Beatles side he did I'm Looking Through You, Michelle, Two of Us, and I've Just Seen a Face, 4 songs I hadn't heard him do before. Unfortunately, since that 2011 tour, Paul has not varied his Setlist and consequently with so many of the same songs, his show "banter" has gotten way too predictable. But his shows are real and Paul is very authentic when you see him in person. For a Greatest hits show, the Stones give a great concert but you certainly can't say that you know them after one of their concerts. As I said, Keith and especially Mick want to play the Rock Gods. If that is what you are looking for, I'm happy for you. But I've always been a Beatles' guy and will always be. I will give the Stones credit that they wait several years before doing a tour (and they probably need the money) but they don't overexpose their brand. Paul I feel has toured way too much which is a reason his shows have gotten stale.
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Watch Paul McCartney Play “Lady Madonna” on One World: Together at Home
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You make IMO several valid points BJ and then I will tell you and everyone a funny story involving Jagger many years ago. Like you, I go to a concert and want to hear the artist interact with the audience otherwise you might as well just listen to their records. Yes, McCartney's stories have gone stale but at least in the beginning they were fun and informative. I like rock shows when they are just the band and not filled with backup up singers . I don't mind a small horn section like McCartney has had recently or during WOA tour but would hate it if he brought along a bunch of backup vocalists. I would also like to bring up McCartney is still making excellent music, what have the Stones done in the last 20 years? If may frustrate you and me that he does not do more of his solo work in concert but at least he does some songs that are not just the hits like the Stones. McCartney did not come across well last night but to think anyone is laughing at a living legend who helped change the course of music history is beyond belief.
Now for the story. In the late 70's, I was part of a group that rented a summer house in the Hamptons. There were three married couples and two singles guys, me and friend named Phil. Rent was divided 5 ways so it made it affordable for all of us. One weekend, Phil and I were out in bars drinking and having a good time. We got in around 4am, I had a "buzz" but was not drunk. I also knew I would probably have a pretty decent hangover. Anyway, I hoped to get up around noon and still enjoy Sunday at the beach. I get nudged in the morning and it is Phil and he wants me to go on jog with him, says it is beautiful morning. I ask him what time it is and he says 9am and I put pillow over my head. He bothers me again and finally I tell him to give me a few minutes to get ready. I stumble out to the kitchen and Julie (one of the married laies) is making breakfast she laughs at me and says "Did you have too much to drink last night" , I kind of snarl at her and go out with Phil who points out where he wants to run to and back. I look and I know this is going to be the longest 6-7 mile run in my life with this hangover. Phil is very outgoing and never stops talking so I just kind of grunt at him while he is talking. I am looking straight ahead the whole time and then I hear him say "Hi Mick". I turn around and OMG it is Mick Jagger. Phil then asks Mick if we can run with him and he says sure and I am silently flipping out. Phil talks to him like Jagger is his next door neighbor and never mentions the Stones or music. After about 5 minutes, Jagger says he has got to turn around and head back and it was nice to meet us.
We head back and I will preface this with Phil was a guy who jokingly bragged about himself and was known to exxagerate a story. We walk in the door and Julie sweetly asks us if we want her to makes us some pancakes or eggs. We thank her and say no and then Phil says guess who we met running. He tells them it was Mick Jagger and the whole room looks at me to verify story and I nodded yes. Their mouths were wide open and obviously they asked questions, it was quite a day.
Finally, telling this story I reflect on the difference between back in the 70's and now. I truly doubt Jagger would now run alone on the beach in the world we live in today. The way we both acted and not being fanboys made Jagger feel comfortable with us, lesson to learn when you meet famous people. I will close with that today that moment might have been ruined by trying to take "selfie" picture with him using our phones. Hope you enjoyed on of my favorite moments of the past - lol
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jimmix wrote:
Watch Paul McCartney Play “Lady Madonna” on One World: Together at Home
For someone who missed last night's concert, this video was much better than the "part" performance that I watched earlier this morning on this thread. This one showed the complete performance including Jimmy Fallon's fab introduction. It also showed Paul's own pre-speech to the song. Finally during the song itself, it shows "various health care" workers as he was singing Lady Madonna. In short it was so much better than the "part" performance I saw earlier.
I could also hear Paul's singing much better. In retrospect, the words he sang for Lady Madonna made more sense relative to the fact that he was giving a specific shout out to Health Care workers. His line..."wondering how you manage to make ends meet" does hit the nail fairly perfectly.
Still I agree with Yankeefan that the performance was pretty bad. Beatle and Paul fans know the song very well so to change the arrangement with his current vocal abilities didn't make sense at all to me. And as you know, I'm a big fan. My guess is that 4 out of 5 Beatle fans would vote a strong "thumbs down" on this version because it was not the "Lady Madonna they're used to.
Such a shame as it was another opportunity to showcase one of his far lesser known Solo songs where the lyrics would fit very well to the current Pandemic. Anyway, I still love the guy!
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Come on everyone. James Paul McCartney could sing the phonebook and I would love it. I treasure anything that he does at this point. He could remake Broad Street and I would still be happy to watch! He has given me much happiness during my 56 years on this earth. I almost cannot think of what my life would be without his songs in my heart and head. Thank goodness for him.
Just seeing Paul safe in his home studio was enough for me. Who cares about his voice, the sentiment was there. Thanks Paul and stay safe (and perhaps with all the time on your hands because of the shutdowns, this would be a good time to make McCartney III, just a thought).
Long live James Paul McCartney!!!
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B J Conlee wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
How sad, that was incredibly awful. Terrible song choice, I could not believe he picked "Lady Madonna". I was absolutely shocked how terrible he sounded.
Agreed. Sappy story that preceded it as well. Shoulda stuck with Yesterday. He needs to take a page out of Jaggers book, color his hair again, move around a bit, and wear shoe lifts.
Between tonights embarrassment, MIA on SNL(horrible), the Olympics fiasco, and the Jay Z debacle we may never recover from the humiliation. Teenagers and millenials are laughing at us all around the world
Maccaroni...wonder why you are on this site. And you saying that "teenagers and millenials are laughing at us" is not very believable to my ears. I'm sure you are laughing as well.
It reminds me of the only time I saw the Stones live. It was back in 2011. A friend of mine had an extra Stones ticket in Philadelphia where I'm from. His brother had gotten sick. Since I had never seen them, I paid for the ticket and joined my friend. Ironically, I had seen Paul at the same venue in Philly about 4 or 5 months earlier.
While the Stones show was good and worth the money, there was a major difference in the 2 shows. The major difference was this:
The Stones had a big band with a lot of extra players and they had a bunch of background singers. All night I was waiting for Mick or Keith to speak to the audience but it never happened. They were parading around doing the "Rock God thing". Again the show was good and they played most of their hits but I could hardly ever hear Mick's voice with all the background singers who were mainly black singers with great voices.
What a contrast seeing Paul's show...He had just a 5 piece Band (his same band today) and he "talked" to the audience many times betwee songs. At the time they were interesting tidbits about the previous song. You heard his voice distinctly (this is when his voice was really good compared to today) and you felt like you knew him as a person. He was real and authentic compared to Mick and Keith who as I said were just playing their "Rock God" personnas. Both great shows back to back but I would go to a McCartney show anyday over the Stones at least at that time.
I was always a Beatles fan over the Stones because you felt like you knew all four members and they had much better albums. Also, I have always loved Macca's variety of genres. I don't find Paul's slower songs in general to be "sappy schlock" in any way. Paul can go great rockers but I love many of his mid-tempo songs and ballads.
As I said, this was 2011 when Paul's voice was loads better than today. In that show, Paul gave his fans many surprises like bringing back Venus and Mars/Rock Show, Ram On, Letting Go and 1985 from Band on the Run for the 1st time. On the Beatles side he did I'm Looking Through You, Michelle, Two of Us, and I've Just Seen a Face, 4 songs I hadn't heard him do before. Unfortunately, since that 2011 tour, Paul has not varied his Setlist and consequently with so many of the same songs, his show "banter" has gotten way too predictable. But his shows are real and Paul is very authentic when you see him in person. For a Greatest hits show, the Stones give a great concert but you certainly can't say that you know them after one of their concerts. As I said, Keith and especially Mick want to play the Rock Gods. If that is what you are looking for, I'm happy for you. But I've always been a Beatles' guy and will always be. I will give the Stones credit that they wait several years before doing a tour (and they probably need the money) but they don't overexpose their brand. Paul I feel has toured way too much which is a reason his shows have gotten stale.
Stones didnt tour in 2011, and Abe does a bulk of the singing to support Paul. Many Stones recordnings have outside singers on them IE Merry Clayton etc, so those extras are brought on stage to replicate the sound of the records.
Mick generally doesnt tell stories like Paul. This is true. That being said, do we really need to hear the story about Jimi Hendrix and his guitar tuning, and George being a great Ukelele player for the last 20 years!?!
As far as the setlist, Stones dont play as many songs as Macca, but most of their songs are a bit longer, and it isn't just hits. Below is arecent setlist from 2019. Songs 2-6, 8-9, 12 and 16 are hardly huge hits. Thats 45% of the setlist.
- Jumping Jack Flash
- It's Only Rock'n'Roll
- Tumbling Dice
- Bitch
- Ride 'Em On Down
- Monkey Man (vote song)
- You Can't Always Get What You Want
- Play With Fire (B-stage acoustic)
- Sweet Virginia (B-stage acoustic)
- Sympathy For The Devil
- Honky Tonk Women
--- Band introductions - Slipping Away (Keith)
- Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
- Miss You
- Paint It Black
- Midnight Rambler
- Start Me Up
- Brown Sugar
--- Band off stage - Gimme Shelter
- Satisfaction
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Kestrel wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote: Kestrel said on the BBC this moring there was no mention of McCartney performing and IMO that says it all when a rock legend icon like McCartney is ignored. I guess the only positive I can get about him last night is he is safe and doing ok.
To be fair, the BBC couldn't name everyone of course but it wasn't that many years ago when Paul would have been automatically named first.
However worthy the cause I do wish Paul wouldn't jump in and get involved because everytime he does it seems his reputation just keeps getting chipped away at. There are a lot of UK acts such as Kate Bush for example who doesn't get involved with these events and no one thinks any less of her for not doing so.
Exactly. He does not need to jump in all the time and the world will not give him a hard time if he is not involved. He could easily just do the message he did before the song and end it at that and that would still be good. Beyonce just did a message and she is one of the biggest acts in the world now. I read a few articles in the US and not one mention of McCartney and that IMO does not happen if he did pretty good performance. I guess my frustration is having people's last impression of him performing might be last night and not all of the other wonderful performances over the years. Hope I am wrong !!
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I missed the first part of the show last night due to a family phone celebration. Luckily it was broadcast again later in the night. Have been catching up on the show and think that possibly there were some different singers than we saw here in the US.
I can't believe some of the comments on here regarding Paul's performance. I think the only person I totally agree with is bluebird. Was very touched that Paul recognized his Mum, who was a nurse, that was uplifting. Im sure a lot of what is going on with the medical personnel today, hits home for him. Loved the jazzy interpretation of Lady Madonna, along with the photos of medical staff. IMHO It was an upbeat choice of a song and I thought his voice was great!
This was an at home show and it was great to see everone from their homes, stepping up under home type circumstances. We are all in the same situation all over the world. I might have even noticed a band where one of them was maybe drinking a wee bit and the drummer was air drumming... but the main point is, they showed up, they stood up behind the cause!! That is what really matters here. Giving everyone an A+ for showing up, for caring and for outpouring of love to their fellow Earthlings. Bravo to all!! We All Stand Together !!!!!! Love to Everyone
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No one mentioned how cute Paul looked either. He really looked so much like he did when he did the earlier version which Oobu posted. His hair is a bit lighter, he really looked so much like he did then! Really cute!!!
Was impressed that Michelle Obama and Laura Bush, 2 previous Presidents wives, had such encouraging messages about the World Health Organization and the medical workers. That was an important message from Americans. We are very greatful for what they do for our country. So far $157 million was raised!!!
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Well, my 28 year old daughter and 26 year old son thought McCartney's gig last night was pretty cool. My baby girl also mentioned that it appeared to her that only McCartney spent so much of his performance praising the nurses and doctors by showing dozens and dozens of photos of these heroes. Elton didn't, Taylor Swift didnt, the Stones didn't, Celine Dion didn't, etc., etc. And again, Paul talking about his Mom Mary was so emotional. I am in the middle of researching the bombing of London during WWII, and the work of the nurses during this horrible daily attack by the Nazi's was simply heroic. To have Paul talk about this and then present these photos of the nurses and doctors was simply beautiful. I was never so proud of being a McCartney fanatic than I was last night.
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wingsoverkc wrote:
Well, my 28 year old daughter and 26 year old son thought McCartney's gig last night was pretty cool. My baby girl also mentioned that it appeared to her that only McCartney spent so much of his performance praising the nurses and doctors by showing dozens and dozens of photos of these heroes. Elton didn't, Taylor Swift didnt, the Stones didn't, Celine Dion didn't, etc., etc. And again, Paul talking about his Mom Mary was so emotional. I am in the middle of researching the bombing of London during WWII, and the work of the nurses during this horrible daily attack by the Nazi's was simply heroic. To have Paul talk about this and then present these photos of the nurses and doctors was simply beautiful. I was never so proud of being a McCartney fanatic than I was last night.
That was very nice moment when he praised nurses, my wife is clinical nurse supervisor in large hospital in Charlotte NC. Any criticism of McCartney from myself or others has been mainly about his vocal performance. My wife did her weekly phone call with her sister today and the first thing she mentioned was how bad McCartney's voice is now. She loves him and probably has seen him live 5 or 6 times. I would rather he selected a different song and especially thought he should have stayed to the original arrangement. I do not believe that is harsh criticism, just my personal opinion.