McCartney Concert Voice
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RMartinez:
21st Century Paul:
RMartinez:
21st Century Paul:
Nancy R:
MetalGod:
Has anyone noticed his actual talking voice has changed dramatically in the last 6-7 years. I'm currently watching "The Love We Make" dvd and his talking voice is much more youthful and less "jawly" in 2001. I think it took a dive actually after the US Tour. I think the divorce aged him a bit. So perhaps that has affect his singing voice on certain songs; it's a natural aging process - but maybe that could have been said from his 89/90 & '93 tours compared to the 2002 tour. KISSES ON THE BOTTOM did amplify those vocal limitations on ballad type songs. I still think he sounds great on the harder rock vocal stuff; studio and live type situations.
We talked about his speaking voice changing at least a year ago here on the forum. It is really quite a difference from just 10 or so years ago. Makes me sad cause I loved the way he talked when he was younger.
Actually the "speaking voice" has changed way more than the "singing voice"... There's lot of info, books, and professionals about "talking voice" with kind of very different theories about it, just the same that happens with singing. Some will tell you to do "X", and some will tell you you must never do "X"... It's kind of complicated, I think the important about what "school/theory" one must follow is to know what you're looking for... A voice that sounds great? An effortless voice without pain? A loud voice? etc....
Generally, Paul sounds good given his age and the criteria put forth. But on LONG TALL SALLY the other night, he was certainly straining his voice beyond its capacity.
well, I think that was deliberate... as in Cut Me Some Slack, it's kind of Paul doing Nirvana, doing Dave Grohl, or doing Kurt Cobain, I don't know, but kind of making his singing fit with the members of Nirvana...
I don't think so. He could not have sung it any other way, given the key and his voice today. He was straining. Anyone who knows singing can hear that. That is different from singing in a passionate, bluesy voice like Paul did in 1976.
Well, he hasn't sung the song since a long time ago but he has sung songs that are somehow similar, similar notes, rockers, like Birthday, for instance, and when he sings Birthday he's not rough (the original was "rough", just like the bridge in Oh Darling). I'm Down is even more similar and he sings it kind of like in the old days... Here's a mashup of I'm Down live Shea Stadium 1965/City Field 2009
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I wonder if Paul used auto tune. I sure the other in the band do I think Paul is keeping pretty real but I don't that much about all the equipment these bands use today. I saw the Stone in concert when they first started going on tour I guess that was like 2001 or so. Not sure but they were awful. Now they sound good. Just saying!
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appletart2:
I wonder if Paul used auto tune. I sure the other in the band do I think Paul is keeping pretty real but I don't that much about all the equipment these bands use today. I saw the Stone in concert when they first started going on tour I guess that was like 2001 or so. Not sure but they were awful. Now they sound good. Just saying!
Well, Paul's record Good Evening New York City had autotune or something similar added. And that's the only one Paul record with autotune (well, except for the weird part at the end of Feet In The Clouds). Adding autotune to Paul's vocals is kind of like using photoshop over a Da Vinci picture.... Here's some example, autotune over Eleanor Rigby and it sounds horrible (the autotune effect here is way heavier than the one at GENYC)
here is Bohemian Rhapsody with Autotune... (I just haven't listened more than 20 seconds... that "Mama" with autotune made me stop at last) -
Michelley:
Sometimes I think some of you just enjoy listening for missed notes so you can come on here and urge Paul to "lower the key." I just listened to a Long Tall Sally video. I thought it was great, both the gravelly voiced parts and the "Whoo-oo-oo baby" parts. He was giving it his all at the end of a long night. It's a thrilling performance, minor flaws and all. Must have been amazing to be there. If anything at the Washington show, I was surprised by how little he struggled vocally. I don't see any point in judging his voice out of context of his age: "He sounded better in 93" or "He sounded better in 76." It isn't '93 or '89 or '76 anymore. And for most of the show I saw, he sounded great -- for his age now. I'd buy another ticket in a heartbeat.
I agree with you whole heartedly Michelley... It's always wonderful for me to hear Paul sing!! I too would buy another ticket in a heartbeat, and from the cheering I see at the shows that I've gone to, most people feel the same!!
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love2travel:
Michelley:
Sometimes I think some of you just enjoy listening for missed notes so you can come on here and urge Paul to "lower the key." I just listened to a Long Tall Sally video. I thought it was great, both the gravelly voiced parts and the "Whoo-oo-oo baby" parts. He was giving it his all at the end of a long night. It's a thrilling performance, minor flaws and all. Must have been amazing to be there. If anything at the Washington show, I was surprised by how little he struggled vocally. I don't see any point in judging his voice out of context of his age: "He sounded better in 93" or "He sounded better in 76." It isn't '93 or '89 or '76 anymore. And for most of the show I saw, he sounded great -- for his age now. I'd buy another ticket in a heartbeat.
I agree with you whole heartedly Michelley... It's always wonderful for me to hear Paul sing!! I too would buy another ticket in a heartbeat, and from the cheering I see at the shows that I've gone to, most people feel the same!!
I'll buy a ticket to hear Paul sing in New Mexico, and I will pay top price. But I have no interest in paying to see him anywhere else. I just can't afford it nor can I justify missing work for it.
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RMartinez:
Here is Paul with the Beatles in 1963 doing Long Tall Sally:
Now, here he is a few days ago doing the same song in Seattle: The wear and tear and strain on his voice today is hard to ignore. I'd rather he didn't do that to himself.I'm holding out for a pro-shot video or soundboard audio to turn up. That'll be the final decider for me.
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audi:
RMartinez:
Here is Paul with the Beatles in 1963 doing Long Tall Sally:
Now, here he is a few days ago doing the same song in Seattle: The wear and tear and strain on his voice today is hard to ignore. I'd rather he didn't do that to himself.I'm holding out for a pro-shot video or soundboard audio to turn up. That'll be the final decider for me.
I can dig it. At this point, Paul can do what he wants, to his voice and to his audience. He has nothing to prove, he is a legend. An aging one, but nevertheless a legend.
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audi:
RMartinez:
Here is Paul with the Beatles in 1963 doing Long Tall Sally:
Now, here he is a few days ago doing the same song in Seattle: The wear and tear and strain on his voice today is hard to ignore. I'd rather he didn't do that to himself.I'm holding out for a pro-shot video or soundboard audio to turn up. That'll be the final decider for me.
Oh...you'd rather hear the auto tuned version that has been in the pro shot ones? The "other" ones have been pretty good lately.
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Not really given it much thought as to whether Paul uses autotune,i suspect he does in some as seemingly most artists do nowadays,of course the difference with Paul he has a genuine talent and voice behind him while other "singers" from these endless talent shows don't but i suspect that discussion as to the merits,or not of autotune is for a different thread
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I thought he sounded fantastic a few weeks ago in Boston, even with his aged voice. That's life and he still blows away 99% of the clowns out there half his age (or less) making "music."
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hengirl:
Not really given it much thought as to whether Paul uses autotune,i suspect he does in some as seemingly most artists do nowadays,of course the difference with Paul he has a genuine talent and voice behind him while other "singers" from these endless talent shows don't but i suspect that discussion as to the merits,or not of autotune is for a different thread
I only mentioned it because of the discussions we all had here about the last professional DVD being autotuned. Now I can't remember if we had discussed that with Good Evening NY or The Space Within Us.
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oobu24:
audi:
RMartinez:
Here is Paul with the Beatles in 1963 doing Long Tall Sally:
Now, here he is a few days ago doing the same song in Seattle: The wear and tear and strain on his voice today is hard to ignore. I'd rather he didn't do that to himself.I'm holding out for a pro-shot video or soundboard audio to turn up. That'll be the final decider for me.
Oh...you'd rather hear the auto tuned version that has been in the pro shot ones? ...
Not at all. I can barely listen to GENYC lately. Too bad this show wasn't telecast; a tv-broadcast wouldn't have been pitch-corrected, and a decent soundboard recording wouldn't necessarily be auto-tuned either.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
(LOL) "Long Tall Sally" that was one of my nicknames for N. Shevell, when she first popped up on the scene I LOVE to hear Macca's speaking voice almost as much as his singing. I'd love for him to record an audio book or two
Susy, did you ever see this? Paul reading from his book "Blackbird Singing"
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sunspark:
SusyLuvsPaul:
(LOL) "Long Tall Sally" that was one of my nicknames for N. Shevell, when she first popped up on the scene I LOVE to hear Macca's speaking voice almost as much as his singing. I'd love for him to record an audio book or two
Susy, did you ever see this? Paul reading from his book "Blackbird Singing"
I have that on DVD.
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Wow...thanks sunspark, you're an angel
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audi:
oobu24:
audi:
RMartinez:
Here is Paul with the Beatles in 1963 doing Long Tall Sally:
Now, here he is a few days ago doing the same song in Seattle: The wear and tear and strain on his voice today is hard to ignore. I'd rather he didn't do that to himself.I'm holding out for a pro-shot video or soundboard audio to turn up. That'll be the final decider for me.
Oh...you'd rather hear the auto tuned version that has been in the pro shot ones? ...
Not at all. I can barely listen to GENYC lately. Too bad this show wasn't telecast; a tv-broadcast wouldn't have been pitch-corrected, and a decent soundboard recording wouldn't necessarily be auto-tuned either.
The special thing about autotune is that some people thinks it makes recordings better and then there's some that think it makes them worse... Some think it's some kind of "cheating", kind of like lyp-synching, but for some of us is quite the opposite, it spoils the listening. I just can't listen to GENYC. If Paul will use autotune in a concert (in case that is possible) and I'll be attending the concert would be kind of horrible too me. Instead of thinking"He's sounding good!" I would be thinking of leaving or so... And I'll probably ask for my money back.
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I guarantee you, on that clip of LONG TALL SALLY from Seattle, he is not using auto-tune!
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RMartinez:
I guarantee you, on that clip of LONG TALL SALLY from Seattle, he is not using auto-tune!
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yep not auto tune.. I left early http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/beatles-595x434-1374604532.jpg
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Nancy R:
RMartinez:
I guarantee you, on that clip of LONG TALL SALLY from Seattle, he is not using auto-tune!