"Out There" 2013 Setlist Critique and Suggestions
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Man, reading through that link really made me sad... fucking sucks dude. you know what's really weird, that he bailed on that plan to go to Hawaii for the Mike Douglas TV special in mid 1980.. I believe MDC was living in Hawaii at that point, was he not? It's like he was on a crash course with that dude. Great link KingMacca, I'm not sure I had seen that one before. When I listen to Double Fantasy I think all John's songs are top notch on it. He was really dialed in again and I think that tour would have been outstanding, and the music making future looked really bright again, his head was in the perfect place. It's interesting to compare the sound and his outlook on Df / M&H compared to what he was making on albums from 1970-1975. He was so tormented coming out of the Beatles, so much crap in his head and unresolved issues. The music/art he made during that period was really great stuff, very groundbreaking in a lot of cases, but I've always seen it as a bit tormented and distracted. which is the intriguing factor in most of it, its so raw and more or less with a dissregard for the pop sensabilities that made them famous. But by the time of his comeback he was feeling good again and was enthusiastic again about making music and embracing his pop side again, even the Beatles stuff. That prosepct is so exciting, I think the whole music world would have been energized by a guy like him doing his thing. He was a fearless leader, out of the box thinking and pushing envelopes. the whole music scene would have benefited by having a John Lennon in it contributing. a massive understatement IMO. His sets in 1980 could have been awesome
http://maccaboard.paulmccartney.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=76573&start=0
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Reading all this just makes me so sad. I miss John. How lucky we were to have had him for his short time here.
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So it appears that last night in Austin, Paul switched the order of two songs - he took Lovely Rita out of the first encore and put it into the main set, and put Hi Hi Hi into the encore in its place. I think this is a good switch. Lovely Rita is a great song, but after seeing it in Orlando, it did cause the energy level to dip a little bit, especially coming after Day Tripper which is a higher-energy song. Now with Hi Hi Hi in there, he's got 3 high-energy rockers in the first encore and I think that is going to help the flow.
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Bruce M.:
Reading all this just makes me so sad. I miss John. How lucky we were to have had him for his short time here.
Indeed.
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A perfect Lennon track for this Macca band could be "Hey Bulldog" but also "Revolution". Heavy sound !!
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agreed.
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Here is what I think McCartney should do: Get rid of ALL Beatle songs composed by McCartney. Perform only Beatle songs composed by Lennon and Harrison. The rest of the set list should be Wings and solo McCartney songs.
Here's how it would look: 1. Please Please Me 2. Junior's Farm 3. You Can't Do That 4. Listen To What The Man Said 5. Let Me Roll It/Foxy Lady 6. If I Needed Someone 7. My Valentine 8. Nineteen Hundred And Eighty-Five 9. I Need You 10. Maybe I'm Amazed 11. A Hard Day's Night 12. Help! 13. Another Day 14. I Should Have Known Better 15. Long Long Long 16. Here Today 17. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 18. Something 19. Hey Bulldog 20. Good Morning 21. Mrs. Vandebilt 22. She Said She Said 23. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! 24. Julia 25. While My Guitar Gently Weeps 26. Band On The Run 27. Yer Blues 28. Dear Prudence 29. Live And Let Die 30. I Am The Walrus Encore One 31. Day Tripper 32. Hi Hi Hi 33. Dig A Pony Encore Two 34. If I Fell 35. Revolution 36. Come Together
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RMartinez:
Here is what I think McCartney should do: Get rid of ALL Beatle songs composed by McCartney. Perform only Beatle songs composed by Lennon and Harrison. The rest of the set list should be Wings and solo McCartney songs.
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Actually love this idea (and your setlist)! Am a little uncertain as to how well some of them would suit Paul's voice though.... Hmmm. Yer Blues, however, would be a bona fide *killer*! Oh baby - I'd pay big(ger) bucks for that alone.
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thenightfish:
So it appears that last night in Austin, Paul switched the order of two songs - he took Lovely Rita out of the first encore and put it into the main set, and put Hi Hi Hi into the encore in its place. I think this is a good switch. Lovely Rita is a great song, but after seeing it in Orlando, it did cause the energy level to dip a little bit, especially coming after Day Tripper which is a higher-energy song. Now with Hi Hi Hi in there, he's got 3 high-energy rockers in the first encore and I think that is going to help the flow.
It's 2013, and he had 'Hi Hi Hi' in the encore! _O_
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Holly Days:
RMartinez:
Here is what I think McCartney should do: Get rid of ALL Beatle songs composed by McCartney. Perform only Beatle songs composed by Lennon and Harrison. The rest of the set list should be Wings and solo McCartney songs.
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Actually love this idea (and your setlist)! Am a little uncertain as to how well some of them would suit Paul's voice though.... Hmmm. Yer Blues, however, would be a bona fide *killer*! Oh baby - I'd pay big(ger) bucks for that alone.
I actually love that idea too!
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Since Paul is going to promote his Beatle past, which is fine by me, why not go all the way and play all the hits he had a hand in: I SAW HER STANDING THERE SHE LOVES YOU I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND FROM ME TO YOU CAN'T BUY ME LOVE SHE'S A WOMAN I'M DOWN THINGS WE SAID TODAY YESTERDAY WE CAN WORK IT OUT PAPERBACK WRITER I'VE JUST SEEN A FACE I'M LOOKING THROUGH YOU GOOD DAY SUNSHINE HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE ELEANOR RIGBY GOT TO GET YOU INTO MY LIFE PENNY LANE SGT. PEPPER'S WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS GETTING BETTER SHE'S LEAVING HOME LOVELY RITA MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR FOOL ON THE HILL YELLOW SUBMARINE LADY MADONNA BACK IN THE USSR I WILL HELTER SKELTER HEY JUDE LET IT BE TWO OF US GET BACK I'VE GOT A FEELING THE LONG AND WINDING ROAD OH DARLING YOU NEVER GIVE ME YOUR MONEY GOLDEN SLUMBERS...THE END Obviously he can't play all these in one concert, but he could rotate them on a regular basis. Why play ALL TOGETHER NOW but not YELLOW SUBMARINE? Why play YOUR MOTHER SHOULD KNOW when he could play FOOL ON THE HILL?
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RMartinez:
Why play ALL TOGETHER NOW but not YELLOW SUBMARINE? Why play YOUR MOTHER SHOULD KNOW when he could play FOOL ON THE HILL?
Despite Paul's recent trend of performing a couple songs where he was not the lead vocalist, I think the main focus still is - and should continue to be - the songs he was the primary vocalist. So, All Together Now over Yellow Submarine makes sense. And besides, since 1989, Ringo has sustained a live career, almost exclusively based around the fact he's going to sing Yellow Submarine and With A Little Help From My Friends.... . Wouldn't want Paul to cut into Ringo's business!
And Your Mother Should Know is appreciated, if only since its a tour debut, whereas Fool On The Hill was done on a few tours already.
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rlj1010:
RMartinez:
Why play ALL TOGETHER NOW but not YELLOW SUBMARINE? Why play YOUR MOTHER SHOULD KNOW when he could play FOOL ON THE HILL?
Despite Paul's recent trend of performing a couple songs where he was not the lead vocalist, I think the main focus still is - and should continue to be - the songs he was the primary vocalist. So, All Together Now over Yellow Submarine makes sense. And besides, since 1989, Ringo has sustained a live career, almost exclusively based around the fact he's going to sing Yellow Submarine and With A Little Help From My Friends.... . Wouldn't want Paul to cut into Ringo's business!
And Your Mother Should Know is appreciated, if only since its a tour debut, whereas Fool On The Hill was done on a few tours already.
How do you justify MR. KITE over, say, WHEN I'M 64 or OH DARLING? Truth is, it's hard to.
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RMartinez:
rlj1010:
RMartinez:
Why play ALL TOGETHER NOW but not YELLOW SUBMARINE? Why play YOUR MOTHER SHOULD KNOW when he could play FOOL ON THE HILL?
Despite Paul's recent trend of performing a couple songs where he was not the lead vocalist, I think the main focus still is - and should continue to be - the songs he was the primary vocalist. So, All Together Now over Yellow Submarine makes sense. And besides, since 1989, Ringo has sustained a live career, almost exclusively based around the fact he's going to sing Yellow Submarine and With A Little Help From My Friends.... . Wouldn't want Paul to cut into Ringo's business!
And Your Mother Should Know is appreciated, if only since its a tour debut, whereas Fool On The Hill was done on a few tours already.
How do you justify MR. KITE over, say, WHEN I'M 64 or OH DARLING? Truth is, it's hard to.
Performing Mr. Kite is arguably the most off the wall decision of Paul's live career EVER.
I don't think it's fair game in comparisons.
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WixRocks!:
Performing Mr. Kite is arguably the most off the wall decision of Paul's live career EVER.
I don't think it's fair game in comparisons.
Maybe that's just the reason, it's totally unexpected. There is probably some memory of making that song with John that made him want to do it. But I don't care what reason, I love that it's in the show.!
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Looking at his most recent setlist and the 38(!) songs he performed in Austin, Texas. Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1963-1970 in The Beatles 1. I Saw Her Standing There (The Beatles, 1963) 2. All My Loving (The Beatles, 1963) 3. And I Love Her (The Beatles, 1964) 4. Things We Said Today (The Beatles, 1964) 5. Eight Days a Week (The Beatles, 1964) 6. Yesterday (The Beatles, 1965) 7. We Can Work It Out (The Beatles, 1965) 8. Day Tripper (The Beatles, 1965) 9. Paperback Writer (The Beatles, 1966) 10. Eleanor Rigby (The Beatles 1966) 11. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! (The Beatles, 1967) 12. Lovely Rita (The Beatles, 1967) 13. Your Mother Should Know (The Beatles, 1967) 14. Lady Madonna (The Beatles, 196
15. Hey Jude (The Beatles 196
16. Back in the U.S.S.R. (The Beatles, 196
17. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (The Beatles, 196
18. Blackbird (The Beatles, 196
19. Helter Skelter (The Beatles, 196
20. All Together Now (The Beatles, 1969) 21. Something (The Beatles, 1969) 22. Golden Slumbers (The Beatles, 1969) 23. Carry That Weight (The Beatles, 1969) 24. The End (The Beatles, 1969) 25. Let It Be (The Beatles, 1970) 26. The Long and Winding Road (The Beatles, 1970) Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1970-1975 in his early solo years and Wings 1. Maybe I'm Amazed (Solo, 1970) 2. Another Day (Solo, 1971) 3. Hi, Hi, Hi (Wings, 1972) 4. Live and Let Die (Wings, 1973) 5. Band on the Run (Wings, 1973) 6. Let Me Roll It (Wings, 1973) 7. Mrs. Vandebilt (Wings, 1973) 8. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five (Wings, 1973) 9. Junior's Farm (Wings, 1974) 10. Listen to What the Man Said (Wings, 1975) Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1976-2013 in his solo career (37 years!) 1. Here Today (1982, Solo) 2. My Valentine (2012, Solo) Anyone noticing a pattern here?
60's: 24 Songs 70's: 12 Songs 80's: 1 Song 90's: 0 Songs 00's: 0 Songs 10's: 1 Song =38 total songs
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MaccaBeatles:
Looking at his most recent setlist and the 38(!) songs he performed in Austin, Texas. Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1963-1970 in The Beatles 1. I Saw Her Standing There (The Beatles, 1963) 2. All My Loving (The Beatles, 1963) 3. And I Love Her (The Beatles, 1964) 4. Things We Said Today (The Beatles, 1964) 5. Eight Days a Week (The Beatles, 1964) 6. Yesterday (The Beatles, 1965) 7. We Can Work It Out (The Beatles, 1965) 8. Day Tripper (The Beatles, 1965) 9. Paperback Writer (The Beatles, 1966) 10. Eleanor Rigby (The Beatles 1966) 11. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! (The Beatles, 1967) 12. Lovely Rita (The Beatles, 1967) 13. Your Mother Should Know (The Beatles, 1967) 14. Lady Madonna (The Beatles, 196
15. Hey Jude (The Beatles 196
16. Back in the U.S.S.R. (The Beatles, 196
17. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (The Beatles, 196
18. Blackbird (The Beatles, 196
19. Helter Skelter (The Beatles, 196
20. All Together Now (The Beatles, 1969) 21. Something (The Beatles, 1969) 22. Golden Slumbers (The Beatles, 1969) 23. Carry That Weight (The Beatles, 1969) 24. The End (The Beatles, 1969) 25. Let It Be (The Beatles, 1970) 26. The Long and Winding Road (The Beatles, 1970) Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1970-1975 in his early solo years and Wings 1. Maybe I'm Amazed (Solo, 1970) 2. Another Day (Solo, 1971) 3. Hi, Hi, Hi (Wings, 1972) 4. Live and Let Die (Wings, 1973) 5. Band on the Run (Wings, 1973) 6. Let Me Roll It (Wings, 1973) 7. Mrs. Vandebilt (Wings, 1973) 8. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five (Wings, 1973) 9. Junior's Farm (Wings, 1974) 10. Listen to What the Man Said (Wings, 1975) Songs Paul wrote/recorded/sang from 1976-2013 in his solo career (37 years!) 1. Here Today (1982, Solo) 2. My Valentine (2012, Solo) Anyone noticing a pattern here?
60's: 24 Songs 70's: 12 Songs 80's: 1 Song 90's: 0 Songs 00's: 0 Songs 10's: 1 Song =38 total songs
yep...only 2 songs from the last 37 years. Shame really. He has so much to choose from. But he is most confident in his Beatles work. So I guess there are many songs that we will never hear live.
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I'm sorry but 2 songs in 37 years is ridiculous, that's almost twice my age!
Having said that I know why he does setlists like this but is it any wonder his post-Beatles career is ridiculed like this by so many when even he acts like it doesn't exist after Gerald Ford became president?!
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To be fair.... I only count 'Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End' to be one song, not three separate songs.
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Yeah I would agree with that, I listed them as three songs however as thats how there listed on Abbey Road and a lot of people view them as seperate songs. Even counting them together that's still 2/3 of the show being entirely compromised of Beatles songs!