Set List critique
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RMartinez:
B J Conlee:
RMartinez:
"It was like a Beatles concert and he was the star. It was so awesome." Isn't this what McCartney wants? Isn't this what he has been selling for years? Well, the general public is getting that idea. Even some people on this board. That McCartney was the Beatles. That he was the star of the Beatles. Which isn't true.
___________________________________________________ RMartinez, I enjoy your posts but I have to disagree with the above. While I am in the camp that wants Paul to give a far more diverse Setlist (like you I am a harcore Macca fan), I don't think in any way that Paul is trying to say that "he was the Beatles". Quite to the contrary, he gives all the other Beatles (including Ringo) a lot of credit including the continuous tributes. He is just looking at the fact that the overwhelming majority of people attending his shows are casual Beatls fans. Because so many of the Beatle songs are much more recognized by these casual Beatle fans, he tailers his show and Setlist to the most famous Songs. That is all it is. Paul, in my opinion, is not trying to be "the Beatles". He is however, more than anyone on the planet, doing more to increase the Beatles legacy than anyone. That's because he tours all over the world. He just loves it. Ringo tours a lot too but doesn't have the songwriting clout of Paul. Even if John and George were alive, neither one liked touring like Paul. It is just a fact. Beatle fans are lucky that Paul is still alive and healthy.
Fair enough!
_______________ No problem RM I 100% agree with you on the set list. Paul is doing in my opinion a disservice to his entire career. Where's the balance? It's not the kind of setlist at this stage I want to see. I personally don't want to hear the same songs over and over again.
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RMartinez:
Maccafan82:
RMartinez:
To me, All Together Now sounds like a children's song. A good one. But still, nothing I need to travel hundreds of miles and pay hundreds of dollars to hear live. When do I go home and say, " I really want to hear All Together Now!" Never. That's when.
Maybe so. But to me, it's one of the highlights of the current tour. I enjoyed it much more than a Hey Jude or Let it Be, simply because they are starting to go stale.
That's cool. I've never heard Mull of Kintyre live, so that is one I would prefer. But I believe you when you say All Together Now is a crowd pleaser.
Yes, Mull of Kintyre is on my Paul live bucket list. Next time he swings into Canada, I'm going. No excuses.
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Maccafan82:
RMartinez:
Maccafan82:
RMartinez:
To me, All Together Now sounds like a children's song. A good one. But still, nothing I need to travel hundreds of miles and pay hundreds of dollars to hear live. When do I go home and say, " I really want to hear All Together Now!" Never. That's when.
Maybe so. But to me, it's one of the highlights of the current tour. I enjoyed it much more than a Hey Jude or Let it Be, simply because they are starting to go stale.
That's cool. I've never heard Mull of Kintyre live, so that is one I would prefer. But I believe you when you say All Together Now is a crowd pleaser.
Yes, Mull of Kintyre is on my Paul live bucket list. Next time he swings into Canada, I'm going. No excuses.
Seeing him perform "Mull of Kintyre" was exactly why I went to Vancouver a couple of years ago.
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B J Conlee:
yankeefan7:
B J Conlee:
Well, just read the Missoula MT Review of last night's show. Predictably, the review was very favorable. The last line read like, "it will be a long time when Montana will experience standing ovations like we saw last night. I'm paraphrasing but that was the meaning. I do have to give Macca a lot of credit relative to his very predictable shows. Even though Paul has sang many of the songs in concert a thousand times, he still manages to sing the songs as though it is the first time. I saw a couple of the U-tube clips and that was evidenced. Not sure how he can do it. I think it boils down to his love of his audience. If he senses that they are having a great time, then it is no effort for him to do the same. Obviously, this was a show where 95% of the crowd had probably never seen Paul, so for them it was an experience of a lifetime. The review sort of indicated this. From that point of view it is hard to criticize Paul too much. That's not to say that what many of us "true" fans are saying is wrong. It is hard for us to be enthusiastic about a setlist where we have heard the majority of songs just too many times. Even on the Beatle songs, I would much rather hear "I will" or "Two of Us" much more than Yesterday or Eleanor Rigby any day. I know that might be heresy to many but you can only hear even a great song so many times. Don't know how Paul can sing the same songs so many times but to his credit, he surely pleases the casual Beatle and Paul fans.
Don't give Macca too much credit for singing these songs like it is the first time. There are many Broadway musical performers who do 8 shows a week and stay in a role for a year that do the same thing for a lot less money. In other words, it is called being a professional. Quick question. Do you really think these first timers could tell if Mr. McCartney is going through the motions? They are probably so wrapped up in awe of seeing him and hearing those songs that they would have no idea IMO.
Yankeefan, Hear what you are saying. Still, for the first timers and casual Beatle fans, we have to give him credit...he puts on a hell of a good show and gives them their money's worth. The reactions from what I see on U-tube and the post show reviews certainly show that Paul is not of a performer that is going through the motions. A couple of recent reviews I've just read single out Bob Dylan as an artist that at this point is going through the motions. The reviewers point out that Paul is the anti Bob Dylan. I get back to the fact that Paul loves the audience and the adoration so much. For that reason, I don't see him in any way going through the motions. But for people like you and me, it is no longer our cup of tea and I understand that also. PS Good to see that your Yankee's still have a shot. I'm a Phillies fan and they need to gut the team at this point.
Without a doubt, he puts on great show which is why I have seen him more than any other performer. It is just now I need more of his total career in concert to shell out the big bucks - lol, As for Yankees, glad they still have a chance especially for Jeter in his last year. Going to see him play one last time in September.
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Sgt._Pepper:
Maccafan82:
RMartinez:
Maccafan82:
RMartinez:
To me, All Together Now sounds like a children's song. A good one. But still, nothing I need to travel hundreds of miles and pay hundreds of dollars to hear live. When do I go home and say, " I really want to hear All Together Now!" Never. That's when.
Maybe so. But to me, it's one of the highlights of the current tour. I enjoyed it much more than a Hey Jude or Let it Be, simply because they are starting to go stale.
That's cool. I've never heard Mull of Kintyre live, so that is one I would prefer. But I believe you when you say All Together Now is a crowd pleaser.
Yes, Mull of Kintyre is on my Paul live bucket list. Next time he swings into Canada, I'm going. No excuses.
Seeing him perform "Mull of Kintyre" was exactly why I went to Vancouver a couple of years ago.
I think he should play it all the time.
It was a huge world wide hit.
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KingMacca:
WixRocks!:
KingMacca:
WixRocks!:
My Salamander:
With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing
I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
If history is of any use, it tells us that Paul has completely ignored the remasters in regards to tailoring his show in anyway whatsoever around them.
Well, Wings Over America did help the 2013 version of "Out There".
How so?
Hi Hi Hi, Man Said...
Plus, he brought back "Mrs. Vandebilt" and "Nineteen Hundred And Eighty-Five" around the "Band On The Run" reissue.
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They were already part of the show in 2010, weren't they?
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audi:
They were already part of the show in 2010, weren't they?
Sure, but that must have been because he had been approving and helping to prepare the upcoming re-release in November that year.
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I've been away for several days, trying to catch up with this active thread! I do agree that "Silly Love Songs" and "Ebony And Ivory" damaged his reputation in the rock world, which is one reason he doesn't do them, but I also think he wouldn't possibly ever do "Silly Love Songs" without Linda. It would sound... silly.
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favoritething:
audi:
They were already part of the show in 2010, weren't they?
Sure, but that must have been because he had been approving and helping to prepare the upcoming re-release in November that year.
Wasn't "Mrs. Vanderbilt" put in the set list originally because it was voted for by fans in Kiev and after great response he left in in for awhile?
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yankeefan7:
favoritething:
audi:
They were already part of the show in 2010, weren't they?
Sure, but that must have been because he had been approving and helping to prepare the upcoming re-release in November that year.
Wasn't "Mrs. Vanderbilt" put in the set list originally because it was voted for by fans in Kiev and after great response he left in in for awhile?
Yep. The reason why "Mrs. Vandebilt" was added to the set list was because of the fan vote in Kiev.
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And I have loved the Ukrainians ever since.
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That song has my vote too. Wish it was still in the setlist.
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Paul McCartney is definitely not the only who tells the same stories on stage over and over and over. As some of you might've heard, Dolly Parton pretty much stole the show at this year's Glastonbury Festival. I watched it -- great show. In addition to new songs, she did her signature tunes -- including "Jolene." After the song, she said that 'Jolene' was a woman who'd caught her husband's eye early in their marriage. Then Dolly joked that whenever she looks at her husband today -- old, balding, grey hair -- she wants to find Jolene so she can come and take her husband off her hands. Funny lil' story. Anyway, I just got a copy of Dolly's 2008 Live In London DVD -- from 2008 -- six years ago. And she told that exact same story. Oy.
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audi:
Paul McCartney is definitely not the only who tells the same stories on stage over and over and over. As some of you might've heard, Dolly Parton pretty much stole the show at this year's Glastonbury Festival. I watched it -- great show. In addition to new songs, she did her signature tunes -- including "Jolene." After the song, she said that 'Jolene' was a woman who'd caught her husband's eye early in their marriage. Then Dolly joked that whenever she looks at her husband today -- old, balding, grey hair -- she wants to find Jolene so she can come and take her husband off her hands. Funny lil' story. Anyway, I just got a copy of Dolly's 2008 Live In London DVD -- from 2008 -- six years ago. And she told that exact same story. Oy.
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Same vocal takes too
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I'd like to know why the heck he dropped A Day in the Life. Hearing him play that was so spectacular.
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audi:
Paul McCartney is definitely not the only who tells the same stories on stage over and over and over. As some of you might've heard, Dolly Parton pretty much stole the show at this year's Glastonbury Festival. I watched it -- great show. In addition to new songs, she did her signature tunes -- including "Jolene." After the song, she said that 'Jolene' was a woman who'd caught her husband's eye early in their marriage. Then Dolly joked that whenever she looks at her husband today -- old, balding, grey hair -- she wants to find Jolene so she can come and take her husband off her hands. Funny lil' story. Anyway, I just got a copy of Dolly's 2008 Live In London DVD -- from 2008 -- six years ago. And she told that exact same story. Oy.
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Still does not excuse McCartney just because Dolly and some other artists do it. I can't imagine they don't know that there are people who try and see them every time they tour and have heard the same story. Really, is it that hard for McCartney to say something different about George Harrison in his tribute.This is his old friend and he can't just say something about him every night without it be scripted - lol.
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audi:
And I have loved the Ukrainians ever since.
Bet it shocked McCartney that they voted for that song instead of a Beatle tune - lol
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yankeefan7:
audi:
And I have loved the Ukrainians ever since.
Bet it shocked McCartney that they voted for that song instead of a Beatle tune - lol
Ho Hey Ho!
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yankeefan7:
audi:
And I have loved the Ukrainians ever since.
Bet it shocked McCartney that they voted for that song instead of a Beatle tune - lol
One certainly wonders...