So let me get this straight.....now it's "okay" to occupy and trash private property??? Huh?? Gees...look what happens when you go away for awhile
Posts made by jaipur
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
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Oh my....the boys and girls are in so much panic dear me....
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RE: Royal Wedding - Prince William to Marry Kate Middleton
SusyLuvsPaul:
I wonder why they have child bridesmaids instead of grown ones...is it so the bride will stand out more and possibly not be 'upstaged' by a bridesmaid beauty? It's a charming tradition, though.
It seems you may be reading too much into a tradition in Britain.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
As far as ?insults? are concerned, only the trivial Sally ranks supreme in that regard. I said earlier that there is a difference between conservatives in the UK and the US To quote Sally: ?The Tories follow the same economic principals of low or no taxation for the wealthy or corporations? No they do not. According to the NYTimes on April 14: "Other notable differences suggest that even Europe?s most conservative party is markedly to the left of the mainstream Republican position in the United States, and in some ways is more liberal than the position Mr. Obama has taken. To strike a political balance, the coalition government led by Prime Minister David Cameron of the Conservative Party, Mr. Osborne ? himself a Conservative ? has retained a 50 percent income tax rate on the wealthiest individuals. That is among the highest in Europe, and it imposes more of a burden on the rich than anything Mr. Obama or anyone else in Washington would find politically feasible.? To suggest that republicans/conservatives in the US are the same as those in the UK is highly inaccurate
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
mustangsally10:
jaipur:
mustangsally10:
jaipur:
Be very afraid that sally can't tell the difference between the US and UK liberalism/conservatism. Pity.
Shouldn't you do some research before blurting out something like that...you really don't know what you're talking about that's very apparent
Point in fact I do, having lived in the UK for a time. You can do all the "research" you want on the internet, unless you live the circumstances it doesn't mean anything. That's quite apparent in your case having proved that too many times.
well, you didn't learn anything there looks like you're mixing up the lib-dems with the labour party The conservatives there are the tories.
Sorry no dear....do stop stating what you apparently googled. Tories aren't the same as conservatives here. I certainly wouldn't proclaim that American definitions rank over other countries as you apparently do. Glad to see that you proven yourself ignorant yet again (sigh).
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
mustangsally10:
jaipur:
Be very afraid that sally can't tell the difference between the US and UK liberalism/conservatism. Pity.
Shouldn't you do some research before blurting out something like that...you really don't know what you're talking about that's very apparent
Point in fact I do, having lived in the UK for a time. You can do all the "research" you want on the internet, unless you live the circumstances it doesn't mean anything. That's quite apparent in your case having proved that too many times.
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Be very afraid that sally can't tell the difference between the US and UK liberalism/conservatism. Pity.
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Andy_Shofar:
jaipur:
The_Fool:
There are twice as many people in Government as there is in Manufacturing. Which means the taxpayer has really has a lot of work to do to support this heavy load. 48 out of the 50 States have more people in Government than in Manufacturing in their own States.
Is it possible that manufacturing has been off shored in the past years?? Although manufacturing shoes, clothes etc in the USA were possible in the 19th century, I don't understand why such a mature economy as the US would do so in the 21st?? Can you help me out here??
Mature economy ... maybe, but perhaps also aged, that is over aged. I think some manufacturing still needs to exist in order to keep an edge and not loose out in a BIG way. I'm thinking of brilliant minds watching "amazing machines" at work and getting ideas for improvements ...
I'd agree with you about some manufacturing....perhaps it's the type that needs work I remember when "made in japan" was thought to be inferior
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
The_Fool:
There are twice as many people in Government as there is in Manufacturing. Which means the taxpayer has really has a lot of work to do to support this heavy load. 48 out of the 50 States have more people in Government than in Manufacturing in their own States.
Is it possible that manufacturing has been off shored in the past years?? Although manufacturing shoes, clothes etc in the USA were possible in the 19th century, I don't understand why such a mature economy as the US would do so in the 21st?? Can you help me out here??
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
SurSteven:
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SurSteven:
Andy_Shofar:
Britons fear Libya becoming another Iraq -poll Tue Mar 29, 2011 * Seven of 10 Britons fear Iraq-style conflict * Almost half disapprove of the intervention LONDON, March 29 (Reuters) - Seven out of 10 Britons think coalition forces enforcing a no-fly zone in Libya could get sucked into another Iraq-style conflict, a poll showed on Tuesday. complete article: http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE72S08220110329?sp=true
Republicans were in office when we got involved in Iraq. Are you saying that Republicans make more war than Liberals and Democrats do?
Here's a question for you - which party is responsible for the only use of nuclear weapons (i.e atom bomb) against an enemy in all of history?
Of all possible political parties in life...there is probably a reason why the democratic party was in office when we discovered the atom bomb
Ending a six year world wide war and saving many from further destruction.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
jaipur:
You do understand that furloughs are working *without* pay?? that means those folks take home less money. Yet, folks like you still want the same services??? Public sector workers, just like private sectors, have been laid off as well. I keep hearing that many, like you, want public sector workers to do "401K plan". I do find that comical, particularly here in Massachusetts. Like other states, not all mind you, public sector workers don't get social security like private sector workers do. While I do understand private sector frustration, I would think it would be helpful that what public sector workers get isn't the panacea they would like to believe.
btw, I wouldn't be so upset with cameras....the UK has many, many more of them.
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You do understand that furloughs are working *without* pay?? that means those folks take home less money. Yet, folks like you still want the same services??? Public sector workers, just like private sectors, have been laid off as well. I keep hearing that many, like you, want public sector workers to do "401K plan". I do find that comical, particularly here in Massachusetts. Like other states, not all mind you, public sector workers don't get social security like private sector workers do. While I do understand private sector frustration, I would think it would be helpful that what public sector workers get isn't the panacea they would like to believe.
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SS has nothing to do with paying Medicaid now, including Reagan. States need to pay the costs first before they are reimbursed by the federal government. The loss of tax revenue for the past couple of years while the increase in those on Medicaid has strained state budges (look it up if you don't believe me). Also, Medicaid unlike SS and Medicare (the plan for the elderly) is not funded by a payroll tax. Not every state is like Wisconsin where public employees pay 8% for their health care. I know for a fact that in Massachusetts that is now 30%. And just as in the private sector, the cost has gone up. Most states have their employees, at least the management, do furloughs, that is working without pay. So management works 12 months yet is paid for 11. As for the cops and firemen, it seems you may be referring to the major cities as the majority of small towns in the US have volunteer firemen (read: the town doesn't pay them a salary).
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With respect?? Texas is looking to not participate in Medicaid. Given that Medicaid is now bankrupting states because they simply cannot afford to cover those under medicaid yet there are many states that anticipate to cover more individuals through medicaid because of the passage of federal reform.....do tell us given that medicaid in many states is currently bankrupting the states because of the increased in those enrolled, how they are suppose to cover more individuals under obamacare?? Answer: they can't
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RE: Royal Wedding - Prince William to Marry Kate Middleton
GYPSYGIRL:
What I'm sure everyone is curious to know is will the Queen: a) ever abidicate No. will Charles become King next Yes. c) will the Queen pass over Charles in favour of William No. d) if he should become King, will Charles abidicate & pass the crown on to William No. I think Wills would make a much better King than Charles
Perhaps you need to study the british monarchy then because unless both the Queen and the Prince of Wales die, Wills cannot become king
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
mustangsally10:
audi:
mustangsally10:
...If you disagree just tell me what the republicans have done that makes them indispensable??
If I were an American CEO, a blindly religious southerner, a racist, a sexist, a hypocrite, a homophobe, a war mongerer, a person oblivious to the surplus we had under Clinton, or perhaps a person blind to what Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress did with that surplus... ...they would be irreplacable.
thanks audi, I think we could do without the entire republican party and be a better country for it OK, here's the question again if you think the republicans are indispensable tell me why...what have they done in the modern age that makes it so????? I love these questions...not once have any of the wingers on this thread been able to come up with a decent answer...and I've been asking for 3 years. You would think they would have wised up by now..but that ain't gonna happen
So we now have the leftist wing spreading lies Answers were posted. It is too bad leftists cannot read or simply chose to ignore facts. I have not seen an "us versus them" post from conservatives here. I have seen leftists trumpet the new health care law, yet denigrate one of the major components of it with a tone of "it isn't good enough". Such obnoxious, ignorant behavior here ....what a pity
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
It's quite unfortunate that sur and sally are so closed minded that that are unwilling to listen and continue to mistate those they seemingly do not "agree" with. Rather, it is their intention to simply push their own agenda and mislabel those that do not agree 100%with their own intentions and agenda. Pity, that those two seemingly destroy any true discussion here. Once upon a time discussions were plentiful with both sides. Now, that is seemingly unwelcomed. Apparently, they are both willing to character assasinate any of those who do not agree with them 100% and are unwilling to be accountable for their own continued character assassinations in their misguided notion of "balance" discussion. In their own ignorance they fail to see that both (yes both) sides are needed for any true resolution. How unfortunate they chose to do so.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
mustangsally10:
jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
Fireman's salaries are small potatoes compared to the MIC. The US spends 19.3 % of it's budget on military. People sitting around and shuffling paper waiting to fight. And then when people do decide to attack us (9/11) they fail miserably. I think we could reduce our military budget substantially and still take care of threats as they appear. It just takes being responsive and not ignoring threats as bushco did. http://www.visualeconomics.com/how-countries-spend-their-money/ US priorities are messed up.. but we're working on it
More obnoxious dribble from those too ignorant to comprehend. :
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
SurSteven:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
obviously i didn't say that there was anything wrong with social services for them who really could use it
Medicaid isn't "social services". Of course you didn't say anything.....we are left to interpret your "criptic" emoticons that you hide behind. As EADG mentioned, you can't apparently substantiate your obvious insinuations. that you can't substantiate
So, basically Jaipur and EADG feel that taxpayer paid insurance premiums should favor high income republicans over low income democratic working people?
jaipur:
Perhaps you might learn more about Medicaid...it is not insurance and those enrolled do not pay premiums. It is available to those who meet the income requirements. btw along the lines of the affordable care act Medicaid will expand over the next few years to provide coverage for Americans. And despite your assertion it is available to all Americans who meet the requirements, not simply (your description) "low democratic working people" I find your description obnoxious.
Everyone pays for medical benefits...some more by percentage of income than others...I find your economic perceptions rather nauseating and narcissist.
Thank you for your post....at least we all know now that you hide behind sheer ignorance. Given that the health care act was signed by the president expanding medicaid so that all americans may benefit, not just your self described "low democratic working people", the dismissiveness you display is more nauseating and narcissistic than I could ever reach.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
Perhaps you might learn more about Medicaid...it is not insurance and those enrolled do not pay premiums. It is available to those who meet the income requirements. btw along the lines of the affordable care act Medicaid will expand over the next few years to provide coverage for Americans. And despite your assertion it is available to all Americans who meet the requirements, not simply (your description) "low democratic working people" I find your description obnoxious.