Paul back w/Ronson for new album news
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Macca Mad:
yankeefan7:
Cord:
Too many cooks spoil the broth.
Agree. Album could lose sense of direction with several producers. I liked it when he worked with Nigel because I think he needs somebody who is not afraid of "Paul McCartney" the legend and will tell him the truth about his songs.
I agree, however I love FITD,but he had the songs , Mr.MacManus to keep him in check & the voice in those days to pull it off. Most of this albums delay is apparently down to dodgy vocals & his attempt to try & get them sounding half decent.
Was "dodgy" vocals him not singing well or he was sick ? IMO - think technology in recording could make me sound good (lol) so doubt there would be much issue with McCartney at his worst.
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audi:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
Well, if the little tidbit of the new"Heart of the Country" is representative of his work with Ronson...and of how Paul is sounding now in the studio....then I'm not sure I even want an album from him. His voice sounds totally shot!
It's not that critical. Regarding the "Heart Of The Country" remake, Paul, unfortunately, came up with a not-so-great melody (which barely is a melody, I'm sad to say) and sang it in a totally different key. Other than the lyrics, it's an entirely different song. I like the spirit and attitude of the new version, but it could've been much better. Still, we fans know that Paul works impulsively and doesn't like to over-think certain projects. This is only a quick, somewhat whimsical updating of a classic; Paul wasn't setting out to improve upon the original. And here's the better news: The 12.12.12 gig + my personal attendance at the St. Louis concert last November have given me blessed assurance that the man can still sing -- and sing well.
Exactly. The critics would have been all over him if he was horrible at 12-12-12 gig. He also sounded pretty good on SNL.
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hey_kittay:
As far as the title of the album, I think it should be called 'FOURever!' Cause it is taking forever!
and since IT IS taking so long...some may say... whatever.
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Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
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I think his very first excuse was that he was not happy with the vocals.
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I don't recall any quotes from Paul about that. Personally I don't think he's taking any longer on this album than any of his rock-legend counterparts. Paul Simon had 5 years between albums; Dylan had four years. The Stones last album was 2005 (and who knows if they'll ever release another full album of original songs). That's just the new norm. David Bowie has been working on his latest album for 2 or 3 years -- and he hasn't been doing any touring or TV shows or standards albums in that time. Paul has been doing all of that, and more. I know we're all impatient but he's working on this at the same pace that they all seem to work on albums these days.
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edcrawf:
Vintage Clothes:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
Darth_McCartney:
CMackbird:
oobu24:
CMackbird:
Couldn't care less about the Mark Ronson bit, but delighted to hear of more news regarding a new release. I have a great feeling he's going to deliver another number 1 album.
and PLEASE let it be on the pop/rock charts. NO SURPRISES as far as that goes.
Exactly. I just think the time thats lapsed since his last 'proper' record that he has something special in the pipeline. Well creatively, based on his last 5 or 6 albums, he has written some of his very best stuff.
But how could you go wrong with Dave Grohl (the guy who has played with both Paul and Mick in the past 12 months.....)? But didn't we read that it was all finished but that Paul didn't like some of the vocals...or some such thing? So what is there to "produce"?
Unless, of course, he's starting over from scratch... I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I blame him - he's got to get it 'right' (whatever that means). Didn't I get the idea somewhere that he wasn't satisfied with the 'rock' tracks he'd done, presumably with Dave Grohl?
This was from earlier in this very thread but it was also somewhere in another thread from last year.
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Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
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Yes, maybe the twenty songs he mentioned last week are more or less the same twenty songs he had over three years ago with Ringo and Geoff. I wonder how many songs he is sitting on at the moment?
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Oh and when it comes to promoting the album Paul, please try and think of some unheard fresh stories and talk about your experience recording the album without trying to relate it back to The Beatles!
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MaccaBeatles:
Oh and when it comes to promoting the album Paul, please try and think of some unheard fresh stories and talk about your experience recording the album without trying to relate it back to The Beatles!
Remember the RS interview about recording "CHAOS" with Nigel and did not think there was any or much mention of the Beatles.
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nobodytoldme:
Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
I would definitely think September or later, if this "Wings Over America" reissue is still slated for June. (Although Elton John's album just got pushed to September, so that could be an interesting head-to-head.) I imagine that with all these producers it might be difficult to settle on a direction for the album. That was my beef with FITD: a lot of good songs, but the production styles were so different, it didn't all mesh together for me. And then there's "Off The Ground," which is notorious for its great B-sides, but Paul must have thought that the actual album tracks fit together in a certain way (or presented a certain image of himself) that the B-sides wouldn't. I expect a great trove of extra tracks from this new project! And I do agree that, for a man of 70, his voice is in fine shape, and he has adjusted to showcase his strengths 90% of the time in his recordings (for something like "Two Magpies" that weathered quality in his voice actually gives the song atmosphere, I think).
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Chaos had some very strong b-sides.
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*Perry*:
Chaos had some very strong b-sides.
Absolutely!
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favoritething:
*Perry*:
Chaos had some very strong b-sides.
Absolutely!
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favoritething:
nobodytoldme:
Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
I would definitely think September or later, if this "Wings Over America" reissue is still slated for June. (Although Elton John's album just got pushed to September, so that could be an interesting head-to-head.) I imagine that with all these producers it might be difficult to settle on a direction for the album. That was my beef with FITD: a lot of good songs, but the production styles were so different, it didn't all mesh together for me...
All these years, I thought that Trevor Horn had produced the overwhelming majority -- if not the entirety -- of Flowers In The Dirt. The sound/production sounds fairly consistent to me. Interesting. I'll have to give it a new listen.
favoritething:
nobodytoldme:
Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
... And then there's "Off The Ground," which is notorious for its great B-sides, but Paul must have thought that the actual album tracks fit together in a certain way (or presented a certain image of himself) that the B-sides wouldn't..
Well-said. I have been trying to find the perfect way to characterize OTG album's final tracks, and you've said it perfectly.
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audi:
favoritething:
nobodytoldme:
Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
I would definitely think September or later, if this "Wings Over America" reissue is still slated for June. (Although Elton John's album just got pushed to September, so that could be an interesting head-to-head.) I imagine that with all these producers it might be difficult to settle on a direction for the album. That was my beef with FITD: a lot of good songs, but the production styles were so different, it didn't all mesh together for me...
All these years, I thought that Trevor Horn had produced the overwhelming majority -- if not the entirety -- of Flowers In The Dirt. The sound/production sounds fairly consistent to me. Interesting. I'll have to give it a new listen.
favoritething:
nobodytoldme:
Guitarman147:
Quick question...where exactly are the rumours coming from that the album is being delayed by vocal issues? I haven't seen any info regarding this anywhere. In my opinion, Paul is in superb voice at the moment and he sounded astonishingly good at 12-12-12. It's just rather unfortunate that he wasn't in such good voice last summer when he played two shows that were broadcast far and wide, and as a consequence, many people, particularly in the UK, have now dismissed him as some sort of has-been. Hopefully this new album and a few surrounding live shows will help to put things straight.
That piece of information is from a trustworthy insider, I can assure you. BUT... I simply never bought it. When you are aged 70 and can't hit the notes like you could when you were 30, you aren't talking about "vocal issues". McCartney isn't living in a bubble, he knows this. And as if such a personal thing is going to be discussed with someone from outside the inner-inner circle. At this moment he is still in the studio recording new songs. There is no delay, nor he started from scratch. With all the projects he continuously worked on since the release of his last studio album, there simply was no time to hurry a whole new full-length. Now the time is right, and I'm sure he's also going to promote it besides his regular worldwide gigs. If he's finishing the album up in the next few weeks, a release in June is possible, but I think we are looking at September at this point.
... And then there's "Off The Ground," which is notorious for its great B-sides, but Paul must have thought that the actual album tracks fit together in a certain way (or presented a certain image of himself) that the B-sides wouldn't..
Well-said. I have been trying to find the perfect way to characterize OTG album's final tracks, and you've said it perfectly.
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Usually when it comes to Paul and producers, it's basically the producer getting a moment or so somewhere on the album to showcase his 'sound' while the rest sounds like a Paul McCartney album (especially his more standard pop/rock studio albums with new songs) ...kinda like Flaming Pie with Jeff Lynn; where the closing moments of Souvenir had sort of an 'ELO' sound while the rest of the album was pretty much standard Paul (albeit one of his better albums) People complained about the sound of David Kahn - but I really only detected his distinct sound in a few spots over the course of two albums...although in saying that, there were definitely (loud) volume issues with the latter of the two albums (Memory Almost Full) and I guess you could blame that on David. In other words, these producers (I believe) are brought in just to bounce a few more ideas off of and perhaps collect an original idea...they're not there to 'produce' the sound in the same sense that they may with other artists....
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Yeah let's hope that new one isn't brickwalled to death like MAF, tracks like "See your Sunshine" are way too overloaded for their own good, but is that a producing or mastering issue?... With WOA in the...wings and rumours of dates in Europe in June, it's unlikely the new studio album will be out before the fall. No hurry at this point I guess but there was even less of a hurry for WOA of course, especially since we're not getting any unknown songs this time.
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webvan:
Yeah let's hope that new one isn't brickwalled to death like MAF, tracks like "See your Sunshine" are way too overloaded for their own good, but is that a producing or mastering issue?... With WOA in the...wings and rumours of dates in Europe in June, it's unlikely the new studio album will be out before the fall. No hurry at this point I guess but there was even less of a hurry for WOA of course, especially since we're not getting any unknown songs this time.
I think the WOA reissue is going to be excellent, but i'd rather wait for that than a new album.