Paul's upcoming album review they say its HOT!
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What's totally bullocks and insane is anyone believing that McCartney wrote 50 songs and only 12 of them are really good! How absolutely ridiculous!! Is anyone really gullable enough to believe such an insane statement? It totally surprises me that anyone could say it doesn't surprise them! When did Paul McCartney ever have a track record that bad, sure some say that his output since the Beatles hasn't been good for the most part, but that's totally insane and a bunch of bullocks as well! Do people really judge how good an album is by the lyrics! The lyrics? So the rest can be absolutely fantastic, but because the lyrics don't say what you think they should that causes the album to not be as good? If that's the case, I know a whole bunch of songs that would never ever have had the chance to be hits, because many of the lyrics don't make any sense at all. Tutti Fruity comes to mind as does I Am The Walrus. Since when did so called good lyrics become a criteria in rock and roll? As long as the lyrics aren't offensive or vulgar, I have no problem, this is rock and roll not rocket science!
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left hand man:
What's totally bullocks and insane is anyone believing that McCartney wrote 50 songs and only 12 of them are really good! How absolutely ridiculous!! Is anyone really gullable enough to believe such an insane statement? When did Paul McCartney ever have a track record that bad, sure some say that his output since the Beatles hasn't been good for the most part, but that's totally insane and a bunch of bullocks as well! Do people really judge how good an album is by the lyrics! The lyrics? So the rest can be absolutely fantastic, but because the lyrics don't say what you think they should that causes the album to not be as good? If that's the case, I know a whole bunch of rock songs that would never ever be hits, because many of the lyrics don't make any sense at all. Tutti Fruity comes to mind as does I Am The Walrus. Since when did lyrics become a criteria in rock and roll? As long as the lyrics aren't offensive or vulgar, I have no problem, this is rock and roll not rocket science!
I didn't mention anything about lyrics, other than nobody supposedly hearing the songs has quoted any. But really...50 songs and only a dozen, "really good," doesn't mean the remainder are rubbish. The big batch of songs recorded for TOF/POP left about a third that were less than "really good." There's still heaps left over from Driving Rain that disn't make the cut. There's the story about Godrich telling Paul to "come up with better songs." No, I really wouldn't be surprised. When Paul is good he's VERY GOOD, and when he's ordinary, he's well, ordinary. Peace Brother!
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I would be totally surprised, and wouldn't believe anyone that made such an insane statement! Paul McCartney has never ever been that bad, 12 out of 50, how can anyone even begin to believe such total nonsense? As for Godrich, I don't agree with him either, (how many hits has he written, and who is he to tell the greatest songwriter in the entire history of popular music to come up with better songs?) some of those songs were probably great the way they were, it's just that Godrich is anti rock and roll! It's one reason I don't want him to ever produce another McCartney record! He can take his slow depressing approach to music somewhere else! McCartney should work with producers that undrestand he's a rocker not some deep emotionally injured artist! A producer that pushes McCartney to do what he does best, not what the producer wants him to do, a producer that encourages not discourages him from using his band. A producer that understands McCartney's strengths!
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JoeySmith:
This does not sound promising. By comparing it the "the late 70s", it doesnt look like the album will approach the mid 70 highlights of Band on the Run thru At the Speed of Sound.
I wouldn`t worry too much about that- it`s just a random number used by someone who doesn`t know that much about Paul. I have been hearing people say "McCartney hasn`t produced a good album in 20 years" for the last 30 years!
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left hand man:
McCartney should work with producers that undrestand he's a rocker not some deep emotionally injured artist!
McCartney should work with producers who understand he`s both - and many more things as well.
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No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
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I bet that guy is in hot water with Concord!!! But the event did happen and there's reasons why nothing is posted or reported..about all that can be said at this point...choose to believe what you will
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Not unbelievable to me that songs could be untitled. Plenty of Beatles songs had "working titles" till close to release date (Mark I, Hello Hello, etc.), and you could look at a lot of McCartney songs and imagine that the title is kind of arbitrary (Promise To You Girl, Feet In The Clouds). Or maybe the Concord people simply didn't tell the listeners the song titles, just saying, "Hey, listen to these! It's Paul McCartney!"
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left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
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favoritething:
PDS:
The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
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John Mackintosh:
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The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
my favourite Macca gaffe is "Yesterday, song written by John Lennon", it is said even after all these years, even on TV... John didn't like to hear that at all either... like he was in some hotel and some little orchestra there saw him around and dedicated "one of your songs to you"...
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You wouldn't know this is Paul's official forum because of the lack of any official team member denouncing or making official statements regarding the new album. You'd think Paul nor his staff have any care or importance to what is said here, except for liability issues. Really impersonal.
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Well Cord, I don't know what liability issues would come from someone posting about releases whether they are right or wrong. No reason for them to denounce anything, when the website officially announces a project, thank you know that it's coming. I know it's frustrating with the lack of current, real time news coming from the site, but I don't think they'll change their game anytime soon. As far as the new album, it's very strange the way this one is being handled for sure. I don't understand what the purpose was of this July listening party to only preview a partial album and then ask those who attended not to talk about it. What was the point?
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Bob Gannon:
Well Cord, I don't know what liability issues would come from someone posting about releases whether they are right or wrong. No reason for them to denounce anything, when the website officially announces a project, thank you know that it's coming. I know it's frustrating with the lack of current, real time news coming from the site, but I don't think they'll change their game anytime soon. As far as the new album, it's very strange the way this one is being handled for sure. I don't understand what the purpose was of this July listening party to only preview a partial album and then ask those who attended not to talk about it. What was the point?
To see what reviewers/critics/industry types think of the material. Paul has done that his entire career. He used to carry around tapes of Beatles songs and ask people to listen and tell him what they thought. This is no different. And just because Scott Rodgers didn't give the names of the songs, or the possible names of the album to a room full of music journalists doesn't mean Paul hasn't named the songs or the album. He wants the album to be good, and he wants to see what people think. I do think the "best thing since the late 70s" remark, if Scott said it, was stupid. And incorrect, given the greatness of Chaos and of Electric Arguments. Why would Paul's own manager diminish his recent work with such a lame remark? If he really said that, time to get a new manager.
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21st Century Paul:
John Mackintosh:
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The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
my favourite Macca gaffe is "Yesterday, song written by John Lennon", it is said even after all these years, even on TV... John didn't like to hear that at all either... like he was in some hotel and some little orchestra there saw him around and dedicated "one of your songs to you"...
That's a good one! One thing in this report that I wonder about...it would seem that if this album is coming out in October, it should already have a title to give it a definite identity, help to put it up on Amazon for publicity's sake and pre-release ordering, that sort of thing.
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Michelley, Well, without saying too much...it was a very targeted audience and I don't believe that opinions were asked at all. Most advance listens, at least the organized ones in the past have been full albums prior to release. Not really too sure what would have been the purpose here!! Certainly was not to promote
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John Mackintosh:
That's a good one! One thing in this report that I wonder about...it would seem that if this album is coming out in October, it should already have a title to give it a definite identity, help to put it up on Amazon for publicity's sake and pre-release ordering, that sort of thing.
At this point, I'm assuming that "leaked" MPL schedule is pretty accurate. He'll start promoting it around the beginning of September when everyone is getting into the fall season and is done with vacations/holidays (maybe there'll be teasers by the end of this month). Then about a six-week run-up to the album release, with radio play, pre-orders, single release, TV appearances, and some live dates around the world continuing well into the fall. The Japanese dates have already been announced. Next year should bring more reissues (depending on how well the new album does) and probably more live dates in the summer. Just my feeling! It's not 1972, when everything was rough and ragged, or the early 2000s, when Heather sent him a bit over the edge. Everything's pretty carefully plotted these days.
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You can spin it anyway you want, but McCartney himself has said many times that he is an optimistic writer, he has said many times that he doesn't really write the dark emotional stuff because he doesn't think he's good at it. Those are his own words! So McCartney is more of a rocker, yes one of his gifts is melody, but another one of his gifts is knowing how to rock! There's absolutely nothing wrong with that because no one is saying that's all he is. If someone doesn't know how versatile McCartney is by now, they haven't been paying attention.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
McCartney should work with producers that undrestand he's a rocker not some deep emotionally injured artist!
McCartney should work with producers who understand he`s both - and many more things as well.
McCartney should put a broom through the MPL PR dept and get people who know their stuff. The whole mob there strike me as rank amateurs. Even the Stones as hackneyed as they are have a remarkably effective promotions team.