Paul's upcoming album review they say its HOT!
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left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
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The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
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John Mackintosh:
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The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
my favourite Macca gaffe is "Yesterday, song written by John Lennon", it is said even after all these years, even on TV... John didn't like to hear that at all either... like he was in some hotel and some little orchestra there saw him around and dedicated "one of your songs to you"...
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You wouldn't know this is Paul's official forum because of the lack of any official team member denouncing or making official statements regarding the new album. You'd think Paul nor his staff have any care or importance to what is said here, except for liability issues. Really impersonal.
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Well Cord, I don't know what liability issues would come from someone posting about releases whether they are right or wrong. No reason for them to denounce anything, when the website officially announces a project, thank you know that it's coming. I know it's frustrating with the lack of current, real time news coming from the site, but I don't think they'll change their game anytime soon. As far as the new album, it's very strange the way this one is being handled for sure. I don't understand what the purpose was of this July listening party to only preview a partial album and then ask those who attended not to talk about it. What was the point?
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Bob Gannon:
Well Cord, I don't know what liability issues would come from someone posting about releases whether they are right or wrong. No reason for them to denounce anything, when the website officially announces a project, thank you know that it's coming. I know it's frustrating with the lack of current, real time news coming from the site, but I don't think they'll change their game anytime soon. As far as the new album, it's very strange the way this one is being handled for sure. I don't understand what the purpose was of this July listening party to only preview a partial album and then ask those who attended not to talk about it. What was the point?
To see what reviewers/critics/industry types think of the material. Paul has done that his entire career. He used to carry around tapes of Beatles songs and ask people to listen and tell him what they thought. This is no different. And just because Scott Rodgers didn't give the names of the songs, or the possible names of the album to a room full of music journalists doesn't mean Paul hasn't named the songs or the album. He wants the album to be good, and he wants to see what people think. I do think the "best thing since the late 70s" remark, if Scott said it, was stupid. And incorrect, given the greatness of Chaos and of Electric Arguments. Why would Paul's own manager diminish his recent work with such a lame remark? If he really said that, time to get a new manager.
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21st Century Paul:
John Mackintosh:
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The more I read the article the more I think it's fake - songs have no titles yet (!) unfinished songs, indistinct sound at a playback (!) songs similar to Free As a Bird and Come And Get It - all so unlikely .......
Or just a lazy observer. Maybe there's piano in a couple of songs and they reach for any comparison they can think of. (I remember reports from R.E.M.'s listening party for their "Around The Sun" album that compared it to "Automatic For The People"...umm, no, not even close.) Could it be fake? Maybe, but at any rate, looking at the producers involved, it's likely to be a combination of very modern combined with the retro touches that are Mark Ronson's trademark, plus some of the crunchy guitars and deep bass of Paul Epworth's mixing work.
Probably a lazy, ill-informed observer as I imagine that might have intended to allude to the early 70s but can't keep things straight. Either that or they love London Town/Back to the Egg, which I do as well but wouldn't put them on the top shelf of his life's works. Reminds of a review for one of his Atlanta concerts some time back when the newspaper reviewer mentioned that he had also included "Someone's Knocking at the Door" in his set list, meaning Let Em'In. The worst was a local TV reporter saying that "among his Beatle hits were Hey Jude, Yesterday and Lonely People (meaning Eleanor Rigby!!!!)" We should have a collection of Macca gaffes for humorous reading.
my favourite Macca gaffe is "Yesterday, song written by John Lennon", it is said even after all these years, even on TV... John didn't like to hear that at all either... like he was in some hotel and some little orchestra there saw him around and dedicated "one of your songs to you"...
That's a good one! One thing in this report that I wonder about...it would seem that if this album is coming out in October, it should already have a title to give it a definite identity, help to put it up on Amazon for publicity's sake and pre-release ordering, that sort of thing.
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Michelley, Well, without saying too much...it was a very targeted audience and I don't believe that opinions were asked at all. Most advance listens, at least the organized ones in the past have been full albums prior to release. Not really too sure what would have been the purpose here!! Certainly was not to promote
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John Mackintosh:
That's a good one! One thing in this report that I wonder about...it would seem that if this album is coming out in October, it should already have a title to give it a definite identity, help to put it up on Amazon for publicity's sake and pre-release ordering, that sort of thing.
At this point, I'm assuming that "leaked" MPL schedule is pretty accurate. He'll start promoting it around the beginning of September when everyone is getting into the fall season and is done with vacations/holidays (maybe there'll be teasers by the end of this month). Then about a six-week run-up to the album release, with radio play, pre-orders, single release, TV appearances, and some live dates around the world continuing well into the fall. The Japanese dates have already been announced. Next year should bring more reissues (depending on how well the new album does) and probably more live dates in the summer. Just my feeling! It's not 1972, when everything was rough and ragged, or the early 2000s, when Heather sent him a bit over the edge. Everything's pretty carefully plotted these days.
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You can spin it anyway you want, but McCartney himself has said many times that he is an optimistic writer, he has said many times that he doesn't really write the dark emotional stuff because he doesn't think he's good at it. Those are his own words! So McCartney is more of a rocker, yes one of his gifts is melody, but another one of his gifts is knowing how to rock! There's absolutely nothing wrong with that because no one is saying that's all he is. If someone doesn't know how versatile McCartney is by now, they haven't been paying attention.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
McCartney should work with producers that undrestand he's a rocker not some deep emotionally injured artist!
McCartney should work with producers who understand he`s both - and many more things as well.
McCartney should put a broom through the MPL PR dept and get people who know their stuff. The whole mob there strike me as rank amateurs. Even the Stones as hackneyed as they are have a remarkably effective promotions team.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
There is also plenty of darkness and pain on Tug of War, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Memory Almost Full. Yes, Paul usually comes out of troubles with an optimistic attitude, but not emotionally injured? Reallly? This is a guy whose mom died when he was in high school, whose best friend and creative partner was murdered by a lunatic at age 40, and who lost both his wife of 29 years and another childhood friend/bandmate to cancer in their 50s. No one goes through that much grief without wounds, and if you can't hear it in Paul's music, you aren't listening carefully.
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Bruce M.:
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left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
There is also plenty of darkness and pain on Tug of War, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Memory Almost Full. Yes, Paul usually comes out of troubles with an optimistic attitude, but not emotionally injured? Reallly? This is a guy whose mom died when he was in high school, whose best friend and creative partner was murdered by a lunatic at age 40, and who lost both his wife of 29 years and another childhood friend/bandmate to cancer in their 50s. No one goes through that much grief without wounds, and if you can't hear it in Paul's music, you aren't listening carefully.
And a man who turned grey early...
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
I'm sure there will be a couple lump in the throat, neck hair standing on end moments on there, alot has been happening in his world since the Chaos/Memory days. He seems a bit more upfront about it now, Too Much Rain springs to mind... "we used to hide away our feelings". Whereas Ram for instance had some moody pieces on there but it was a bit ambiguous which is also his game anyway. He knows his niche in his Pop albums, we all know what were going to get, only not quite.
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Re the songs not having titles.......we already know three of the possible songs titles Hosanna with Ethan Johns, Life Of A Party Girl possibly with Mark Ronson and Struggle wriiten with Paul Epworth who also produced. Who knows if any of these make the final album selection BUT certainly the songs have titles
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Warning: Long Post I think there's 2 "eras" in Paul's after-the-Beatles career. One is from 1970 to Off The Ground or so. That's when he did promotion, wrote hits, had a lot of airplay, you know... And then in 1994 or so he started not to like doing promotion or so, so he stopped... he left EMI, and all that, as he said in some interview: Manager or so:"Tomorrow we're going to Cologne" Paul:"Why?" Manager:"To do promotion" Paul:"How boring" And that's when he released singles that didn't even try to be hits, and albums that didn't even try to be commercial. There's all the classical ones, Liverpool Oratorio, Ecce Cor Meum, Working Classical, A Leaf (single), Standing Stone and even a ballet, Ocean's Kingdom. That's SIX! classical music albums. Then there's the "experimental" albums... Liverpool Sound Collage, The Fireman "part one and part two...", Twin Freaks and I guess I'm still forgetting something... even a video game soundtrack in the future. So from 1990 on we got like TEN albums of Paul McCartney that had little intention of selling or being commercial. And then there's the "rock and roll records". And the specially not commercial thing about them is the songs choosen as first single. Almost everyone has the same story about when they discovered Paul and The Beatles. They were listening to their time's mainstream music (it could be on 1963, 1973,1983 or 2003...) and then someday heard Paul or the Beatles and thought "What the heck is this?" or so, it was so different and so great. And so they got interested on it, sometimes for life. But that thing that made Paul or The Beatles different when you listened to the radio was the greatness of some songs. Hope Of Deliverance could be the last first single who's got some of that, you could heard it and realize that was way better than anything on the radio... But then, Young Boy, From A Lover To A Friend, Fine Line, Dance Tonight... are not THAT special. Still great, but not that great. There's lots of songs in the rock and roll albums that are better than the first singles. I don't think there's many people here that think that Young boy, From a Lover to a friend, Fine Line and Dance Tonight are the best songs of their albums. In Flaming Pie you got such a masterpiece as Beautiful Night, then classic Paul ballads like Little Willow and Somedays. In Driving Rain there's Freedom, Your Loving Flame, Lonely Road, Heather, Rinse The Raindrops... Etc. like in MAF there's End of the End, Only Mama Knows and House of Wax... What I think about this is that, as Paul is sometimes interested in making albums that are intended to be hits (yes, then there's the cover ones... KOTB, Run Devil Run...) I guess it can perfectly that he doesn't choose the first single with kind of "strong" commercial intentions. ? For me choosing From a Lover To Friend is that he wanted to tell the world how he felt then or so but he wasn't thinking "This is going to be a hit or so" or I don't think he thought it was the best song of the album either.
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Congrats Michelley......feedback was the correct answer!!!
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I would give anything (almost) if the new album is as good as Flaming Pie. (you left out Calico Skies, Oliver, one of my favorites!)
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I think Paul still wants to have hits and sell records. It's in his DNA. But if the rumours are true that the new album is coming out in October -- ie. the big Christmas market -- he's either totally deluded or receiving some lousy advice. Have MPL forgotten the debacle of 'Driving Rain' (his last album to come out at that time of year), which struggled to make even the UK Top 50?? Without a hit single -- and surely those days are long gone -- there's no way on earth a new McCartney album can compete with the torrent of greatest hits, Rod Stewart-style covers corn and X-Factor-style crud (Susan Boyle, Il Divo, JLS, whatever) which flood the market in the run up to Christmas. It simply won't get the attention or airplay it deserves, and will most likely sink without a trace. As much as I want new Paul music, for his sake, I would rather he waited until spring next year to release it -- and give us a couple more Wings remasters in the meantime to be going on with. Surely 'Venus and Mars' and 'At The Speed of Sound' are ready by now?