The ..2012.... Political thread
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Obama has a lot of charisma, it's obvious he is special. McCain is lacking in that area & looks sickly, unhealthy and very old
At least you're not judgemental of people based on their appearance vs their charisma... : God help us and God bless America.
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BandontheRun:
At least if Obama wins, we will have all the gaffes by Joe Biden.. probably the best comedy VP since Dan Quayle. I will also miss Tina Fey's Sarah Palin impersonations.. My favorite Biden gaffe is the "Stand up Chuck so everyone can see you" which he says to the guy in the wheelchair.. where did Obama find this guy...
Let's not forget: A three letters word -- jobs. J-O-B-S. And President F.D. Roosevelt going on tv to calm the American people in 1929. If McCain or Palin ever said that they would both be finished. The big story would be that McCain has Alzheimer's disease. If McCain did say something like that I would believe that he just might and should step down. Biden is only a few years younger but with regards to Biden it's not a topic that's allowed to be considered. It's just Joe being Joe. Biden described Obama as being the first mainstream African American who is articulate , bright, clean and nice looking. If McCain said those words his political career would have been over that very same day. But that's just Joe being Joe. he should have finished his thought by saying he would be proud to have Obama living in his neighborhood, just so long as Obama didn't bring in any others. Had Biden said that, it would have been Joe just being Joe.
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Mikemc:
cremetangerine:
Mikemc:
That's your typical left wing hatred. They are all mentally deranged and they celebrate the deaths of people on the right while hoping their deaths were slow and painful. ... But the Democrats are so vile and devoid of any morals. They would steal candy from a child.
MikeMC, do you really think that lowly of democrats? You think every single person in the democratic party has no morals whatsoever? I just want to make sure I'm reading this right because I rarely see anyone be so rude and closed-minded publicly. I guess it's just the optimist in me. And by the way, maybe you should take a step and look at the way YOU are representing your party. Throwing insults, far-fetched accusations, suggesting (no, declaring) that anyone who disagrees with you completely lacks morality... I am a democrat and frankly I thank God you are on the other side so I don't have to be embarrassed by this type of childish behavior.
Once again, cremetangerine, you're having a problem with reading comprehension. It's also very sad when you have to chop up my post so as to avoid responding about the hatred coming from your side of the aisle. The only way you can represent your party is to ignore facts you don't like to hear and take posts out of context to avoid topics you know all to well about but don't want to acknowledge. I gonna reply to your edited version of my post even though I'm replying to incorrect information because of your not so clever editing. I never said every single member of the Democratic Party has no morals. I never thought that way and you know it. I don't expect you to apologize to me, but you should issue a general apology to all members of this board who might find value in your opinions. Without such an apology how can you expect anyone to trust you? My words that you edited included how the radical left at the Daily Kos and Huff Post celebrated the death of Tony snow from cancer. The only remorse they felt was that they don't think he suffered enough. They celebrated his death. Why did you edit that part out of my quotes? They rejoiced when Nancy Reagan fell and hit her head. They loved it. Again, why did you delete that from my post? You took all my words out of context, but in doing so you proved my thesis. I don't think most Democrats are deranged. I don't think most Democrats celebrated the death of Tony Snow or the head injury to Nancy Reagan when she fell. It's the left wing who have hijacked a once respected party. My issue is that not enough mainstream Democrats or liberals condemn that kind of hatred. When it is brought up here no one responds either. Instead, sentences of my post are cherry picked out of full paragraphs and quoted, or I should say- misquoted, on a response and used to misrepresent what I said. I wouldn't do that to you. Why did you do that to me? Do feel at all embarrassed? Is that kind behavior a representation of how the Democratic Party operates? The part about Dems stealing candy from a child was in regards to how Dems commit election fraud out in the open and laugh about it. Obama disables software on his website to violate all kinds of contribution laws laws. I don't see any Dems expressing anger at their own party for doing anything they can to get elected. Jesse Jackson said that tens of thousands of peop0le of color were prevented from voting in Florida in 2000 by Florida State Police, some with a gun pointed in their face. The only problem Jesse had was that he couldn't produce a single person to parade around as an oppressed citizen. The voter intimidation committed by the Black Panthers today is well documented by news people and poll workers. As far as relevance is concerned Jackson no longer has any. He's gone the way of the National Organization for Women. We never hear about them anymore because they lost all credibility after watching Clinton violate woman all throughout his presidency and not do anything about it. They lay together in the trash bin of history.
There, I quoted your WHOLE post, feel better? I guess you missed the point. I wasn't calling you out on the issues. If I don't want to debate them here I don't have to. That doesn't mean I don't care about them, or that I approve or condemn anything. It means I don't want to talk about them with you. I take no issue with you expressing your opinion whether I agree with it or not, and that was not problem. Saying that I am just diverting the issues, is, in fact, diverting the issue. That?s not what my post was about. My problem is with the insults you repeatedly throw at Democrats. I don?t have the time nor the interest to debate here, but as I read through the thread yesterday I was absolutely disgusted at the comments you were making and the fact that very few were calling you out. It doesn?t matter what the context is. When you say ?democrats this? and ?democrats that? you are making a generalization that ALL democrats are that way. How can it be read any other way? If you don?t mean ?democrats? in general than you need to be more specific. Adjectives are useful in these types of situations. If I am talking about two black men who committed murder and robbery and then I say ?black people are killers and thieves? ? would you assume I was referring to the two black men, since that was the context? No, I made a general statement that stands alone in its meaning. You can?t excuse what you say by saying I ignored the context. I read the context and your statements were still just as offensive, they still mean the same thing, and even though you think you have excuses, the single statements I picked out speak for themselves. They are quotes; you did say them. "democrats are so vile and devoid of any morals" I mean really Mikemc, does that need context? If you didn't mean it that way, you should state it a different way or be more clear in what you mean.
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appearance is just one aspect, it's not everything to me. even my mother said of mccain he looks unhealthy, especially compared to the vigorous dynamic O. she said "he's too old." And she's 78 herself. it's not his age really it's his health.
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Mikemc:
BandontheRun:
At least if Obama wins, we will have all the gaffes by Joe Biden.. probably the best comedy VP since Dan Quayle. I will also miss Tina Fey's Sarah Palin impersonations.. My favorite Biden gaffe is the "Stand up Chuck so everyone can see you" which he says to the guy in the wheelchair.. where did Obama find this guy...
Let's not forget: A three letters word -- jobs. J-O-B-S. And President F.D. Roosevelt going on tv to calm the American people in 1929. If McCain or Palin ever said that they would both be finished. The big story would be that McCain has Alzheimer's disease. If McCain did say something like that I would believe that he just might and should step down. Biden is only a few years younger but with regards to Biden it's not a topic that's allowed to be considered. It's just Joe being Joe. Biden described Obama as being the first mainstream African American who is articulate , bright, clean and nice looking. If McCain said those words his political career would have been over that very same day. But that's just Joe being Joe. he should have finished his thought by saying he would be proud to have Obama living in his neighborhood, just so long as Obama didn't bring in any others. Had Biden said that, it would have been Joe just being Joe.
I also like the one where Joe says that Hillary is more qualified that he is to be President or Vice President.. It's amazing how you can't see any of this stuff unless you look for it, but anything Palin does wrong, the media is all over it. At least we can see through it, unfortunately, not everybody does. On another note, I did a search on Youtube for "Obama Hitler" - there are some interesting comparisons... try it out.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
appearance is just one aspect, it's not everything to me. even my mother said of mccain he looks unhealthy, especially compared to the vigorous dynamic O. she said "he's too old." And she's 78 herself. it's not his age really it's his health.
Ok, what's wrong with his health?
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She never stops being a melodramatic fool! I'm through with this bitcha! Thud! Btw, The Black Panthers are back! There is going to have a bloodshed after election. So ya'll be careful!
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nellie apple:
She never stops being a melodramatic fool! I'm through with this bitcha! Thud! Btw, The Black Panthers are back! There is going to have a bloodshed after election. So ya'll be careful!
Did you know that the Black Panthers formally endorsed Obama and he had their logo on his website but after a short time, it was taken down to avoid controversy? Watch out folks, this guy knows how to keep things from you while continuing to garnish the support from radicals promote his agenda. Heil Obama!
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he's had cancer several times, and it could come back, for one thing.
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MikeMC Let's not forget: A three letters word -- jobs. J-O-B-S. I watched Biden--- I was eating and spew the food then I laughed! Poor old man--- HAHAHAHA!!!!! Biden is on remission for decades now---he has brain cancer!
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radicals on the right...the most radical of them are terrorists, with far more in common to Hitler. Obama seems almost saintly, and you're comparing him to Hitler? that's a hoot
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Mikemc:
cremetangerine:
Mikemc:
Grandma just died. I knew it. I told friends when Obama went to Hawaii to visit his ill grandmother that she was gonna die the day before the election to get the sympathy vote. Or at least announce her death on the eve of the election if she dies within two to three days of the election. I could be wrong. But I'm basing my opinion on the fact that the Obama campaign has used every trick in the book to get elected on November 4th, while using their dupes in the media to destroy anyone who might get in his way. They even take money from anyone, anywhere in the world, for any amount. The legal maximum means nothing. Manually disable the AVS software, keep each donation (transaction) under $200 and we won't have to open our books when the ridiculous laughable sum of $150 million comes in for a single month. Everyone will know it's fraud and the only way to prove it is to hand our records over to the FEC, but they can't make us. RIP grandma, you've been thrown under the bus for the last time.
Oh my god. Is this a joke? Are you serious? You are accusing Obama of somehow strategically conspiring to have his grandmother DIE at a convenient time for him? Are you going to elaborate on how he may have done this? I can't believe what I am reading.
Cremetangerine, maybe you should read my words because the issue is that you can't believe what you're thinking. I never accused Obama of conspiring to have his grandma die on any date or time. There's nothing to elaborate on. If Granma can survive getting thrown under a moving bus she should have been able to survive anything. On my post you made no mention of what really matters in this election where Obama and his supporters are committing all kinds of fraud to get him elected. So I highlighted in blue my comments that you missed in your reply. Care to comment? Today in Philadelphia Black Panthers with police nightsticks were blocking whites from gaining entrance to vote. There were no police on scene because it's considered "voter intimidation" to have a police presence in some voting districts. The police had to be called in to take them away. Care to comment?
Why do you think there is no basis to what I say because I don't choose to debate about things that are completely irrelevant to why I posted in the first place? No, I don't care to comment about the Black Panthers. What does that have to with my comment? Further, you including the disclaimer "I could be wrong" does not mean that you didn't make an accusation. It means that you just don't want to back it up if ever called on it. Anyone reading that can see what you implied, and if you want to deny that, fine, but again, anyone reading it can see what you meant. It looks to me like you just don't want to take responsibility for what you say. Which is fine; people can see that.
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cremetangerine:
black people are killers and thieves
Why do you have to make such racist statements? You should get your hatred checked by a professional.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
he's had cancer several times, and it could come back, for one thing.
Are you serious? : OK, so there is nothing wrong with his health right now. However, he COULD fall ill. Obama could also be hit by a bus or develop lung cancer from his smoking. Yes folks, Obama smokes but you will never see that covered by the media as he does it behind closed doors.
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mike mc took tangerine's words completely out of context to mean the opposite of what she thinks...you're right, creme tangerine, it's so obvious
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SusyLuvsPaul:
radicals on the right...the most radical of them are terrorists, with far more in common to Hitler. Obama seems almost saintly, and you're comparing him to Hitler? that's a hoot
How does Obama seem almost saintly? That is a scary comment. Have you forgotten his ties to Reverend Wright, the racist church he attended for 20 years, got married in, had his children baptised in and has pictures with their arms around each other? I won't mention the other radicals.. isn't this enough? By the way, Obama today voted.. among those in the same precinct - Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan (sp?)
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BandontheRun:
SusyLuvsPaul:
he's had cancer several times, and it could come back, for one thing.
Are you serious? : OK, so there is nothing wrong with his health right now. However, he COULD fall ill. Obama could also be hit by a bus or develop lung cancer from his smoking. Yes folks, Obama smokes but you will never see that covered by the media as he does it behind closed doors.
Most people die when they are old. Just sayin'.
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cremetangerine:
BandontheRun:
SusyLuvsPaul:
he's had cancer several times, and it could come back, for one thing.
Are you serious? : OK, so there is nothing wrong with his health right now. However, he COULD fall ill. Obama could also be hit by a bus or develop lung cancer from his smoking. Yes folks, Obama smokes but you will never see that covered by the media as he does it behind closed doors.
Most people die when they are old. Just sayin'.
Sure, unless they're from Chicago...
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Those who can not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. How did Hitler get to office anyway?
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Mikemc:
cremetangerine:
black people are killers and thieves
Why do you have to make such racist statements? You should get your hatred checked by a professional.
Awesome! Thank you so much for proving what I was saying. See how ridiculous it is? That worked out beautifully.