Anyone notice a pattern?
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toris:
yankeefan7:
audi:
As I've observed in my Elvis fan-groups, there are two types of McCartney fans: -Those who hold him to the very artistic standard that the man himself established -Ass-kissing sycophants
I am in the first camp also - lol.
Looks like I am in that first camp too.... I will bring the marshmallows for the fire... and the beers, of course!
Of course with that being said, just to clarify, I have no problem with folks who are of an opposite view.... no slings and arrows... all healthy debate .... But I am in the first camp.
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toris:
toris:
yankeefan7:
audi:
As I've observed in my Elvis fan-groups, there are two types of McCartney fans: -Those who hold him to the very artistic standard that the man himself established -Ass-kissing sycophants
I am in the first camp also - lol.
Looks like I am in that first camp too.... I will bring the marshmallows for the fire... and the beers, of course!
Of course with that being said, just to clarify, I have no problem with folks who are of an opposite view.... no slings and arrows... all healthy debate .... But I am in the first camp.
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prudence1964:
Appropriate reaction: "Paul didn't sound good last night. Hope he doesn't feel badly about it not being the performance he wanted" Inappropriate reaction"how dare Paul embarrass us like that. He owes each one of us an apology for making poor choices . I didn't pay a dime to watch him on SNL, but in the past I've paid money to see him in concert so I'm owed".
I have no problem with reading different points of view about Paul's work, that's why I enjoy reading the threads! But sometimes the criticism can be too extreme to the point of sounding rude or disrespectful to Paul, IMO.
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This is rock & roll, people. Social graces are for the Susan Boyle crowd. Paul's a big boy. He can handle it.
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beatlesfanrandy:
prudence1964:
We should be thankful he hasn't retired.
I completely agree with you.
every time he does thing in England it's the same queens jubilee and the Olympics they panned him that why he hasn't done gig here for a while the press are and social media and so called fans ohhhhh
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nowords:
beatlesfanrandy:
prudence1964:
We should be thankful he hasn't retired.
I completely agree with you.
every time he does thing in England it's the same queens jubilee and the Olympics they panned him that why he hasn't done gig here for a while the press are and social media and so called fans ohhhhh
You're slurring...is it happy hour?
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moptops:
nowords:
beatlesfanrandy:
prudence1964:
We should be thankful he hasn't retired.
I completely agree with you.
every time he does thing in England it's the same queens jubilee and the Olympics they panned him that why he hasn't done gig here for a while the press are and social media and so called fans ohhhhh
You're slurring...is it happy hour?
Those Poms can't drink like us Aussies..... or play cricket like us!
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I may not like everything Paul does but this doesn't mean I don't "love him" I go regularly to his concert and buy everything he puts on the market, no matter whether i like it or not Just to say, i have loved him even when he invited me to f**off outside one of his venues in london as i was standing completely still and harmless But there's something i really don't understand about this topic: I have been at times criticizing his music, true Many of you have been criticizing his dyed hair for years Which of these is the most inopportune thing?
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toris:
moptops:
nowords:
beatlesfanrandy:
prudence1964:
We should be thankful he hasn't retired.
I completely agree with you.
every time he does thing in England it's the same queens jubilee and the Olympics they panned him that why he hasn't done gig here for a while the press are and social media and so called fans ohhhhh
You're slurring...is it happy hour?
Those Poms can't drink like us Aussies..... or play cricket like us!
don't be a troll
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moptops:
nowords:
beatlesfanrandy:
prudence1964:
We should be thankful he hasn't retired.
I completely agree with you.
every time he does thing in England it's the same queens jubilee and the Olympics they panned him that why he hasn't done gig here for a while the press are and social media and so called fans ohhhhh
You're slurring...is it happy hour?
please keep to the topic and don't troll
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Nancy R:
I guess you meant 33 1/3 LPs? (invented in 194 http://lprecord.umwblogs.org/history/invention/ Of course prior to that were the 78s (had to throw a boatload of them away when I cleaned out my Dad's house in Ohio) P.S. I loved your post Hailey!
Thank you. It's always nice to hear something nice, especially about a post that's not mean.
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steblap:
I may not like everything Paul does but this doesn't mean I don't "love him" I go regularly to his concert and buy everything he puts on the market, no matter whether i like it or not Just to say, i have loved him even when he invited me to f**off outside one of his venues in london as i was standing completely still and harmless But there's something i really don't understand about this topic: I have been at times criticizing his music, true Many of you have been criticizing his dyed hair for years Which of these is the most inopportune thing?
"Many of you have been criticizing his dyed hair for years Which of these is the most inopportune thing" I think the people who do that (mostly the ladies) want him to look good and can't understand why a man of his wealth can't get a good hair color job done. I think it is safe to say Mr. McCartney does not seem to have a good hair stylist.
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I see no difference between the Paul of the 1960's being experimental and collaborating with different artists than today. Only differences are age and technology. People are entitled to like them or not, personal preference........
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Michelley:
moptops:
I think many older supporters of Paul seem dismayed generally or even confused at many of his recent decisions: artistically but also what seems to be perceived as dubious judgement on his behalf.
The only dubious judgment Paul has made recently is his decision to sing Maybe I'm Amazed on live TV, knowing full well that it was a very difficult song to sing when he was in his prime, let alone now. Other than that, he hasn't made any dubious decisions of late. He's made a lot of smart and interesting choices that show his eagerness to create. Collaborating with Kanye was an artistic decision that has produced two good songs and two global hits so far. What's been embarrassing to see is the reaction of some of Paul's older fans to this collaboration. The drama queen over-reactions, the borderline racist (and sometimes overt racist) comments, the complete denial of the legitimacy of other genres of music. You want dubious judgments? THOSE are the dubious judgments. Not Paul doing what artists should do and taking risks.
I haven't been very active on here lately but of course have been keeping up with all things Paul! I have really admired how energised Paul seems of late. I love his decisions to try something new, to create music within different genres. Hasn't he always done that? What I haven't enjoyed hearing is he still can't relinquish certain songs and he doesn't know how to rest up before a big tv performance.
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Seriously. You're Paul McCartney The mainstream press loves your concerts. Everyone loves the new song. You're selling out arenas. But a couple of dozen members on the forum are objecting to your decisions. Who are ya gonna listen to? I mean, really??
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It's not just boardies. I shared this guy's YouTube vid the day after the SNL thing; it's got about 20,000 views. That's small potatoes in the grand scheme, but it's worth noting the following comments: ________________________________________________________________ "F-ck Paul McCartney can't sing worth a shit anymore, makes me cringe whenever he gets behind a mic anymore. But he's old what the fuck do you expect? ..." "My type of music is quality vocals this wasnt quality at all " "I am a big Beatle fan but this guy is spot on. A bad performance. I have noticed a bifg drop off in his vocals especially the past couple years. IMHO, it is from perfoming concerts alot. as you get older you need to rest your vocal chords. He played a full concert the night befor and I watched some of the videos, and while again a big decline from a few years back , most were pretty decent. so singers get sick or hoarse perhaps the performance should not have gone on or at least change to an easier song..." "You're 100% right. I thought the same thing. He sounded awful! And Steven Perry IS a GREAT singer. I agree with everything you said. I thought McCartney was trying to sound bad at first, but then realized he wasn't. He needs to retire, I think. Maybe he's been sick or something. Maybe I should give him the benefit of the doubt. But he shouldn't have been singing on TV." "PAUL MCCARTNEY STARTED OFF SINGING BAD BUT<HE PUT IT TOGETHER I THINK HE WAS GREAT HE HAS BEEN ILL ..." "Paul's over 70 years old, he doesn't have close to the same voice he used to. Up until, I'd say around the mid 90's, he had an absolutely incredibly voice with tremendous range. Listen to the original versions of 'Maybe I'm Amazed', 'Helter Skelter', 'Wanderlust', 'I'm Down', or 'Golden Slumbers' and you'll see the type of voice he had. But that's not the only thing that made him a great musician..." "I think his voice was hoarse from the concert the night before." "The song started out with him sounding rough - kind of old man quavery - but when he warmed and got to the hollering parts of the song he could still punch it. He is simply past the age where he should be performing - but he's 1/2 of The Beatles song-writing team (or 1/3rd if you count George Martin) and he had a solid career after them. He is a musical icon. He can still hit the hard notes, it's the lighter tones he's lost to a quaver." WOw ! Paul Mccartney Performance Live On Snl 40th Anniversary show (Review) Sounds Like crap WTF ! !:
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edcrawf:
I see no difference between the Paul of the 1960's being experimental and collaborating with different artists than today. Only differences are age and technology...
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favoritething:
Seriously. You're Paul McCartney The mainstream press loves your concerts. Everyone loves the new song. You're selling out arenas. But a couple of dozen members on the forum are objecting to your decisions. Who are ya gonna listen to? I mean, really??
You think Paul is reading this? It's just that song...and SNL. Everyone holds their collective breath when he does SNL. He could have sung a more recent song that has been written in a better key.
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HaileyMcComet:
Paul McCartney is probably the greatest entertainer alive today. Typing up his resume would take all day. Since he's been doing his thing longer than a lot of us have been alive, he's going to have fans from practically every generation of the last century - and now this century. His oldest fans were born before LPs existed. His youngest fans were born in the age of digital downloads. He has fans all over the world. We come in all shapes, sizes, races, religions, mental acuities, social handicaps and rational deviance. I've been told that even people who read books are welcome here. You can't have such a diverse fan base without having fans that are going to disagree with each other over pretty much everything. Maybe everyone at the Andrew Ridgeley message board is going to agree on Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go, but nothing Paul ever does is going to be heralded by all of his fans. Some are too stuck in the past to think anything will ever compare with The Beatles or Band on the Run or wherever their preference lies. Some will only see his work through rainbow glasses, with everything he sneezes becoming an artistic masterpiece. Most are probably somewhere in the middle. And you know what? Not to sound like Stuart Smalley, but that's ok. Paul has never demanded that all of his fans share the same opinions on every subject. I don't think he'd be Paul if he did. When it comes to censoring people on the internet, this site is pretty lenient. Paul McCartney and his bands have changed the world in more ways than any artist alive today that I can think of. His music tears into our hearts and helps us see the world with more optimism and love than any beer commercial during the Super Bowl could ever imagine. The world may or may not be falling apart, and all the pain and suffering in your life might be more than you think you can handle, but no matter what's going on around us, every single one of us can play whatever period Paul music we prefer and feel better about life. As Voltaire once said, "I may not agree with your choice of Paul setlists, but I'll defend to the death your right to hear it." I might be paraphrasing. Paul's good enough, he's smart enough, and doggone it, people like him.
agreed
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Stuart Smalley -- love it!