New in the Charts Thread
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audi:
I had my heart set on a No. 1. Let's hope that the upcoming "Queenie Eye" video keeps the buzz for the album going. Maybe we'll get our top spot next week.
I mentioned it once in this thread, but are you aware that Katy Perry released her new album yesterday? You don't have to be fan of hers (I'm not) to realize this woman is white-hot these days. Paul has ZERO chance of rising in the charts, barring his death. Katy will sell at least five times what Paul sold in his first week, and Paul will probably sell about half what he sold. Take a look at the youtube stats that favorite thing posted. That tells you all you need to know.
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yankeefan7:
Wingsla:
During the 1989-90 tour, yes, he played 6 new songs and opened up with Figure of Eight....and guess what...... FLowers hit #1 in the UK...... In 1993 he played 6 new songs...and guess what.....Hope of deliverance was a worldwide smash hit......... 2002......didn't even play the original single, Lover to a friend, cut down to 3 songs....and Driving Rain, a great masterpiece, didn't even dash to #1. 2005.......4 songs only and didn't play any good songs from the album, no this happened before, no At the mercy, no promise to you girl, no anyway......and album sales was soft. 2007, no proper tour, even during those secret gigs he only played 4 new songs......if he had a chance to play 10 songs from a new album, would have been during those secret shows, yet, again, plays lady madonna and get back.......oh boy!!!!! and didn't even play the single ever present past????? it was supposedly the single, and didn't even play it live????? don't' get it. 2013,.........again.....out there tour.....no new song, no hype no nothing. Promotional pop up shows....plays NEW twice....lol!!!!!!! seriously...... then we wonder why he hasn't had a #1 album in over 20 years. He should really adopt the attitude " i don't give an F" and pull a bob dylan....play obscure songs, or pull a bruce springsteen or prince, a different show every night...... It's as if he is not proud of his solo work or something...that's really irritating me........makes my blood boil.... Whenever he puts down Press to play or his other work, or say stupid things like he doesn't remember his work form the 70's, it's making not wanna be his hard core fan anymore.... Beatles beatles beatles, i am sick and tired of those stupid stories, stupid interviews,enough is enough!!!!!!! I have to respect Bob Dylan for finding new fans, and concentrating on them, the new fans are the ones supporting him and buy his records.....Macca should do the same, the new fans are the ones who will not judge him for what he did 50 years ago, they are the ones appreciating him for his current work...and that's the key to stay relevant........He is a active musician....not a tribute act...for goodness sake...... Man... It makes me so angry just to think about it!!!! NEW should be dominating the charts.....not lose out to some 21 year old kid or to Pear Jam....this is totally unacceptable !!!!!!!!
"It's as if he is not proud of his solo work or something...that's really irritating me........makes my blood boil.... Whenever he puts down Press to play or his other work, or say stupid things like he doesn't remember his work form the 70's, it's making not wanna be his hard core fan anymore.... FYI - McCartney actually said in interview something to the effect that "Revolver" came out before "Rubber Soul" so obviously he does not remember stuff about the Beatles also. McCartney also made a statement about the first song he every wrote with Lennon recently which fans on this board said was different from what he had said years earlier. As for not remembering stuff from the 70's, I believe the statement was in the context of not always remembering which album a particualr song came from which is not really a put down of the work IMO. If McCartney is not happy with a particular record (Press To Play) from over 25 years ago, it is his right to say it because he created it. Really, what artist thinks every record they made is a gem. McCartney has said he is very proud of "New" and I remember in interviews about CHAOS he said he liked it very much and enjoyed working with Godrich. McCartney has also been very positive when talking about the experience of doing "The Fireman" records, he has said he enjoys the freedom of just "winging" it -pardon the pun. "NEW should be dominating the charts.....not lose out to some 21 year old kid or to Pear Jam....this is totally unacceptable !!!!!!!!" That 21 year old kid appeals to the record buying demographic and has had her name in the news constantly due to her "outrageous" performance. Whether older people like it or not, it was publicity for her which is what she wanted and sells records. As for Pearl Jam, it is their first new record in years and they are very popular rock band. IMO - you are living in fantasy land if you think "New" should dominate the current charts. I like "New" and would have loved it to be #1 but at this stage of McCartney's career, not going to really get upset about "New" entering the charts at #3.
What happened to the Macca who refused to play any Beatles' songs on Tour in the 70s? Where is the Macca who played "Soily" as the encore? We want that Paul back. If Paul never played a Beatles song in concert, his concerts would still be sold out. Not sure why he wants to be perceived as a nostalgic act.
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B J Conlee:
Couple of questions: Is it official that Paul is going to enter the Charts at #3. I was hoping that Paul was going to beat Miley and enter a #2. Does these numbers include people who download the whole album on top of the people who purchase CD's. ________________________________________________________ A #3 showing is still amazing for someone who is 71. I think Paul's Marketing team overall has done a good job but the key is keeping it going and sustaining sales. One thing I think this proves again is that the boomers in general (my generation) just don't buy new CD's anymore. I am thinking of all the people in the US who attended Paul's shows this year and all the great reviews that "NEW" has garnered. With this combination you would think the boomers would have a stronger impact on sales. As I said, they just don't buy new music even if they loved the Beatles and Paul when they were young. 75,000 Units just doesn't seem like much when it is Paul and so many critics raved about this album. Come to think of it, I have many friends who are in their mid 40's to 60's and they just don't buy new music at all. I've asked a bunch of them if they have bought Paul's new album, and they look at me like like the thought would never enter their head. I still tell them how great it is in the hopes that they will. I have a couple of friends that like me are really into Macca's music and I love talking about the various tracks with them but people like us are few and far between. This being said, NEW has great quality to it and should have "legs". But, Paul needs to make some strong TV appearances in the US before he goes to Japan. I hope these are in the works. Also, Paul needs to tour in 2014 and play at least 6 or 7 from NEW. Besides the 4 tracks we've heard, there are several other candidates that are begging to be played live. Again, this album is great and if it gets heard, I think it has a chance to stay in the charts for several months ahead (not top 10 but in the 20's or 30's). Wouldn't it be great if NEW was still in the upper tier of the Top 200 in February when it is the 50th anniversary of the Beatles coming to America and appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show.
I think you are so right about boomer generation, they just don't buy CD's. Also, listen and watch the reaction when McCartney plays a new song in concert. There is polite applause at best and most people don't even try to give it a chance. The last two times I attended a McCartney concert the people next to me usually either chatted to each other and ignored new song or checked their phone for messages. A Beatle song was played and they would go nuts and start singing and dancing. To me this proves your point, these type of people are not going to buy a McCartney CD. It is sad that "New" did not sell more but we can't say they did not try to promote CD. We could all nitpick as to other things they could have done but who knows if that would have helped. Like you said, critic reviews were about as good as you could hope for in a new realease and RS gave it a higher rating then the Pearl Jam CD. I am resigned to the fact the "New" will probably disappear from the charts pretty quickly because the record buying demographic is not in McCartney's favor and he is basically being ignored on radio. In the end, I am satisfied that McCartney has another quality CD following up on others like MAF and CHAOS. I should probably add EA also even though it is "The Fireman". I will also be interested in audience reaction to "New" songs in concert, hope to hear from people who attend shows in future for update. My last remaining wish is that McCartney gets some Grammy nominations and I think he has a chance since the critics have been pretty kind to "New".
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yankeefan7:
My last remaining wish is that McCartney gets some Grammy nominations and I think he has a chance since the critics have been pretty kind to "New".
Don't count on that. The album New was released too late to qualify for next year's Grammys, so you'll have to think forward to the Grammys in 2015 (!) and hope that folks will remember an album that will be practically a year and a half old at that point. The single New was released (just barely) prior to the Grammys Sept 30th cutoff, so it has an outside chance at a nomination or two. But the album? I don't think so...
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jan:
Rock legend Paul McCartney enters at No. 3 with his new studio album, "New." It sold 67,000 copies in its first week. It's the 19th top 10 set for the Beatle, counting his solo work and releases with Wings (but not his Beatles material). The "New" album is his first of all-new songs since 2007's "Memory Almost Full" debuted and peaked at No. 3 with 161,000. After that, he issued the mostly-covers album "Kisses on the Bottom" in 2012, which debuted and peaked at No. 5 off a 74,000 start.
Very disappointing. It looks like 'New' wont even sell 100K copies when its all said-and-done. Even John's disastrous 'Sometime in New York City' sold a lot more copies.
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audi:
favoritething:
Just looking at some numbers on YouTube for reference. New (static black and white logo video) - 1,477,853 views New (impromptu acoustic performance) - 258,915 views New (lyric video) - 515,811 views Queenie Eye (60-second video trailer) - 60,168 views Katy Perry: Roar (official video) - 138,715,295 views Roar (lyric video) - 54,707,867 Miley Cyrus: Wrecking Ball (official video) - 253,264,649 views Yep, Paul's in a completely different universe! "Queenie Eye," with its celebrities, should easily outstrip all the "New" videos put together, but beyond that....? (And while I was writing that, they put out an album sampler on YouTube. Trying to cover all the bases!)
staggering
All Paul needs to do is get neked on that wrecking ball & we'd see those numbers climb a bit.
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eric in boise:
yankeefan7:
My last remaining wish is that McCartney gets some Grammy nominations and I think he has a chance since the critics have been pretty kind to "New".
Don't count on that. The album New was released too late to qualify for next year's Grammys, so you'll have to think forward to the Grammys in 2015 (!) and hope that folks will remember an album that will be practically a year and a half old at that point. The single New was released (just barely) prior to the Grammys Sept 30th cutoff, so it has an outside chance at a nomination or two. But the album? I don't think so...
Yes, I thought that was rather bold to release the album after the Grammy cutoff. If he had made that, he'd have a really strong chance at a Grammy of some kind, but for what ever reason they decided to be in the thick of the major fall releases. Did they worry about Paul competing with Elton and Sting in September? Did they assume that Pearl Jam's fan base had dwindled? Did they think the album was so strong it couldn't possibly lose to anyone? Did they just want Paul to get maximum visibility with virtually all the promotion taking place during the fall season, #1 be damned? Paul can't be totally unconcerned about this: in new interviews, he's revealed his ongoing desire to be relevant, in the game, the fear that "everybody else is doing better than me," as "Alligator" says (and yes, he confirmed that those lyrics were not just off the cuff!). Really, this is playing out almost exactly like Elton John's album "The Union" with Leon Russell in 2010. The single came out before the Grammy cutoff, the album came out in October and went to #3 and everybody said, "Hey, pretty good for an old guy," then the song got a Grammy nomination in 2011, didn't win, and the album was forgotten when it was eligible the next time around, despite good reviews and Elton's constant touring and playing new tracks.
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I find it kind of amusing how so many people are so worried about the sales figures. After all, Paul's only the most successful musician/singer/composer/entertainer in history.
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eric in boise:
yankeefan7:
My last remaining wish is that McCartney gets some Grammy nominations and I think he has a chance since the critics have been pretty kind to "New".
Don't count on that. The album New was released too late to qualify for next year's Grammys, so you'll have to think forward to the Grammys in 2015 (!) and hope that folks will remember an album that will be practically a year and a half old at that point. The single New was released (just barely) prior to the Grammys Sept 30th cutoff, so it has an outside chance at a nomination or two. But the album? I don't think so...
Wow, thought he made it in time for Grammy nominations. That was mistake IMO.
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I wondered that too (what Year40 wrote)--he's achieved so much, enjoyed so many awards, honors and blessings. From a selfish viewpoint, I'm mainly concerned with how I personally feel about the album, what it does to my ears and emotions, what it does for me. Much more than with what "New" does on the charts.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
I wondered that too (what Year40 wrote)--he's achieved so much, enjoyed so many awards, honors and blessings. From a selfish viewpoint, I'm mainly concerned with how I personally feel about the album, what it does to my ears and emotions, what it does for me. Much more than with what "New" does on the charts.
Yes, I'll be satisfied that he made yet another album I can enjoy from now on. Doesn't really matter if it's a big seller; it just would be a kind of vindication for all of us who've stuck with him so long! (Big sales numbers are important, though, for all those people who depend on Paul's success for a living. The more success, the better for them!)
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JoeySmith:
yankeefan7:
Wingsla:
During the 1989-90 tour, yes, he played 6 new songs and opened up with Figure of Eight....and guess what...... FLowers hit #1 in the UK...... In 1993 he played 6 new songs...and guess what.....Hope of deliverance was a worldwide smash hit......... 2002......didn't even play the original single, Lover to a friend, cut down to 3 songs....and Driving Rain, a great masterpiece, didn't even dash to #1. 2005.......4 songs only and didn't play any good songs from the album, no this happened before, no At the mercy, no promise to you girl, no anyway......and album sales was soft. 2007, no proper tour, even during those secret gigs he only played 4 new songs......if he had a chance to play 10 songs from a new album, would have been during those secret shows, yet, again, plays lady madonna and get back.......oh boy!!!!! and didn't even play the single ever present past????? it was supposedly the single, and didn't even play it live????? don't' get it. 2013,.........again.....out there tour.....no new song, no hype no nothing. Promotional pop up shows....plays NEW twice....lol!!!!!!! seriously...... then we wonder why he hasn't had a #1 album in over 20 years. He should really adopt the attitude " i don't give an F" and pull a bob dylan....play obscure songs, or pull a bruce springsteen or prince, a different show every night...... It's as if he is not proud of his solo work or something...that's really irritating me........makes my blood boil.... Whenever he puts down Press to play or his other work, or say stupid things like he doesn't remember his work form the 70's, it's making not wanna be his hard core fan anymore.... Beatles beatles beatles, i am sick and tired of those stupid stories, stupid interviews,enough is enough!!!!!!! I have to respect Bob Dylan for finding new fans, and concentrating on them, the new fans are the ones supporting him and buy his records.....Macca should do the same, the new fans are the ones who will not judge him for what he did 50 years ago, they are the ones appreciating him for his current work...and that's the key to stay relevant........He is a active musician....not a tribute act...for goodness sake...... Man... It makes me so angry just to think about it!!!! NEW should be dominating the charts.....not lose out to some 21 year old kid or to Pear Jam....this is totally unacceptable !!!!!!!!
"It's as if he is not proud of his solo work or something...that's really irritating me........makes my blood boil.... Whenever he puts down Press to play or his other work, or say stupid things like he doesn't remember his work form the 70's, it's making not wanna be his hard core fan anymore.... FYI - McCartney actually said in interview something to the effect that "Revolver" came out before "Rubber Soul" so obviously he does not remember stuff about the Beatles also. McCartney also made a statement about the first song he every wrote with Lennon recently which fans on this board said was different from what he had said years earlier. As for not remembering stuff from the 70's, I believe the statement was in the context of not always remembering which album a particualr song came from which is not really a put down of the work IMO. If McCartney is not happy with a particular record (Press To Play) from over 25 years ago, it is his right to say it because he created it. Really, what artist thinks every record they made is a gem. McCartney has said he is very proud of "New" and I remember in interviews about CHAOS he said he liked it very much and enjoyed working with Godrich. McCartney has also been very positive when talking about the experience of doing "The Fireman" records, he has said he enjoys the freedom of just "winging" it -pardon the pun. "NEW should be dominating the charts.....not lose out to some 21 year old kid or to Pear Jam....this is totally unacceptable !!!!!!!!" That 21 year old kid appeals to the record buying demographic and has had her name in the news constantly due to her "outrageous" performance. Whether older people like it or not, it was publicity for her which is what she wanted and sells records. As for Pearl Jam, it is their first new record in years and they are very popular rock band. IMO - you are living in fantasy land if you think "New" should dominate the current charts. I like "New" and would have loved it to be #1 but at this stage of McCartney's career, not going to really get upset about "New" entering the charts at #3.
What happened to the Macca who refused to play any Beatles' songs on Tour in the 70s? Where is the Macca who played "Soily" as the encore? We want that Paul back. If Paul never played a Beatles song in concert, his concerts would still be sold out. Not sure why he wants to be perceived as a nostalgic act.
The McCartney in 1970's wanted to distance himself from the Beatles and establish Wing as a band which made perfect sense at that time. McCartney made several albums with Wings so he had plenty of songs for selist and had amassed a bunch of hit singles before they toured US for the first time. All the other Beatles did basically the same thing in 70's, their live performances had very few Beatle songs. I was at the WOA show(Madison Square Garden) in 1976 and it was fantastic. As much as people loved the Wings songs, when McCartney did "Yesterday" the place went absolutely crazy. I personally would love to have "Soily" be one of the encore numbers in current show and have stated that several times on this board and most people said I was nuts/stupid etc. Really, you think if McCartney announced before a tour that his shows would not have any Beatle songs that these shows would sell out, I totally disagree.
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Paul should try that one time, and see what happens? For just one concert?
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Paul should try that one time, and see what happens? For just one concert?
It would be half filled with fans like myself, Audi and a few others on this board. I think it could be a great show but I don't think McCartney has it in him to try something "Out There" like a non-Beatle show.
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yankeefan7:
The McCartney in 1970's wanted to distance himself from the Beatles and establish Wing as a band which made perfect sense at that time. McCartney made several albums with Wings so he had plenty of songs for selist and had amassed a bunch of hit singles before they toured US for the first time. All the other Beatles did basically the same thing in 70's, their live performances had very few Beatle songs. I was at the WOA show(Madison Square Garden) in 1976 and it was fantastic. As much as people loved the Wings songs, when McCartney did "Yesterday" the place went absolutely crazy. I personally would love to have "Soily" be one of the encore numbers in current show and have stated that several times on this board and most people said I was nuts/stupid etc. Really, you think if McCartney announced before a tour that his shows would not have any Beatle songs that these shows would sell out, I totally disagree.
Not sure if they would all still sell out (he had a little trouble in '93, as I recall), but he'd still get enough, I think, sure! I'd love to hear "Soily" again, personally. Not sure if he could still do that final "oh yeaaah" the same way, but it would still rock! Hey, maybe if he just billed himself as The Fireman (or Thrillington, or Apollo C. Vermouth) for a tour, he would be free to play anything he wanted, and if it meant smaller venues, then so much the better for us!
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I think that it´s no big deal, because Paul was on top of tour rank with out there, on the run and up and coming (I saw shows of these three and can say that no other artist can do that, mix emotions like fun, happiness, crying, etc in several generations and on sold out stadiums). Give him a break, the man is the most popular artist of all time and still is the most popular. Yes, the majority loves him for what he did in the past, but still is his work, right? New is a great album and I know many fans of him who doesn´t buy records anymore. It is normal. People go crazy to buy tickets, but records depends on what the radio constantly plays etc. What I think it is weird is that MAF sold more than one million (US alone, more than 3 worldwide) and NEW (better album than MAF in my opinion) is selling less than Kisses on the bottom, wich is a lovely records, but it is jazz covers. I don´t know, let´s wait to see him come back touring.
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favoritething:
yankeefan7:
The McCartney in 1970's wanted to distance himself from the Beatles and establish Wing as a band which made perfect sense at that time. McCartney made several albums with Wings so he had plenty of songs for selist and had amassed a bunch of hit singles before they toured US for the first time. All the other Beatles did basically the same thing in 70's, their live performances had very few Beatle songs. I was at the WOA show(Madison Square Garden) in 1976 and it was fantastic. As much as people loved the Wings songs, when McCartney did "Yesterday" the place went absolutely crazy. I personally would love to have "Soily" be one of the encore numbers in current show and have stated that several times on this board and most people said I was nuts/stupid etc. Really, you think if McCartney announced before a tour that his shows would not have any Beatle songs that these shows would sell out, I totally disagree.
Not sure if they would all still sell out (he had a little trouble in '93, as I recall), but he'd still get enough, I think, sure! I'd love to hear "Soily" again, personally. Not sure if he could still do that final "oh yeaaah" the same way, but it would still rock! Hey, maybe if he just billed himself as The Fireman (or Thrillington, or Apollo C. Vermouth) for a tour, he would be free to play anything he wanted, and if it meant smaller venues, then so much the better for us!
If he can still do "Helter Skelter", I think he could still pull off "Soily" and if his vocal was not perfect would not bother me - lol. That would be cool, do shows as the "Fireman" in smaller venue and I would pay big bucks for that concert.
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As was pointed out, he's got a vast team of employees behind him who earn money from him, and they're probably always pushing him to do what makes the most money for everyone. Most of them. But I do wish he'd tear a page from Dylan's M.O. (to mix metaphors) and get out there with smaller much more personal intimate shows where he plays only what he wants to play from his post-Beatle songbook
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#36 on iTunes US album chart today, by the way, but still #3 on Amazon.
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Plastic Soul Man:
Wingsla:
During the 1989-90 tour, yes, he played 6 new songs and opened up with Figure of Eight....and guess what...... FLowers hit #1 in the UK...... In 1993 he played 6 new songs...and guess what.....Hope of deliverance was a worldwide smash hit......... 2002......didn't even play the original single, Lover to a friend, cut down to 3 songs....and Driving Rain, a great masterpiece, didn't even dash to #1. 2005.......4 songs only and didn't play any good songs from the album, no this happened before, no At the mercy, no promise to you girl, no anyway......and album sales was soft. 2007, no proper tour, even during those secret gigs he only played 4 new songs......if he had a chance to play 10 songs from a new album, would have been during those secret shows, yet, again, plays lady madonna and get back.......oh boy!!!!! and didn't even play the single ever present past????? it was supposedly the single, and didn't even play it live????? don't' get it. 2013,.........again.....out there tour.....no new song, no hype no nothing. Promotional pop up shows....plays NEW twice....lol!!!!!!! seriously...... then we wonder why he hasn't had a #1 album in over 20 years. He should really adopt the attitude " i don't give an F" and pull a bob dylan....play obscure songs, or pull a bruce springsteen or prince, a different show every night...... It's as if he is not proud of his solo work or something...that's really irritating me........makes my blood boil.... Whenever he puts down Press to play or his other work, or say stupid things like he doesn't remember his work form the 70's, it's making not wanna be his hard core fan anymore.... Beatles beatles beatles, i am sick and tired of those stupid stories, stupid interviews,enough is enough!!!!!!! I have to respect Bob Dylan for finding new fans, and concentrating on them, the new fans are the ones supporting him and buy his records.....Macca should do the same, the new fans are the ones who will not judge him for what he did 50 years ago, they are the ones appreciating him for his current work...and that's the key to stay relevant........He is a active musician....not a tribute act...for goodness sake...... Man... It makes me so angry just to think about it!!!! NEW should be dominating the charts.....not lose out to some 21 year old kid or to Pear Jam....this is totally unacceptable !!!!!!!!
Fantastic post.
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