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    Why not collaborate with Gilmour or Page instead of Kanye

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      Ammar last edited by

      Many liked the new song. For me it was nothing special. what I didnt like is those comments that says Kanye helped an ex-Beatle to be famous again!!! Didn't Paul knew this is a way far from his name and history??? Paul always like to collaborate with talented musicians, and it is always good to exchange music ideas. But with all names in the world, why did he choose a very different type of music to be in???? what will that song add to him or his name??? Why not do something with Billy Joel or David Gilmour who is always happy to do that with him?? and they are much more in the same level or type of music?? Jimmy page? Elvis Costello?

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        admin last edited by

        Ammar:

        ...Why not do something with Billy Joel or David Gilmour who is always happy to do that with him?? and they are much more in the same level or type of music?? Jimmy page? Elvis Costello?

        Because none of them have had a hit since Joan Collins was a virgin.

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        • favoritething
          favoritething last edited by

          His collaboration with John Bonham just came out recently. Is that close enough?

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            admin last edited by

            Paul has worked with Gilmour a few times. Rockestra, Run Devil Run (album and performing band), No More Lonely Nights, We Got Married(???), anyway, been there done that.

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              admin last edited by

              yep.

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                prudence1964 last edited by

                Ammar:

                Many liked the new song. For me it was nothing special. what I didnt like is those comments that says Kanye helped an ex-Beatle to be famous again!!! Didn't Paul knew this is a way far from his name and history??? Paul always like to collaborate with talented musicians, and it is always good to exchange music ideas. But with all names in the world, why did he choose a very different type of music to be in???? what will that song add to him or his name??? Why not do something with Billy Joel or David Gilmour who is always happy to do that with him?? and they are much more in the same level or type of music?? Jimmy page? Elvis Costello?

                Those comments turned out to be a joke, not serious. Maybe The simple answer is that Kanye asked and Gilmour didn't

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                  admin last edited by

                  ...because Paul seeks to be accepted by the younger set. He wants to be seen as still "relevant".

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                  • favoritething
                    favoritething last edited by

                    Let's not forget that Paul actually does like Kanye's music. He saw him in concert and praised his performance prior to this collaboration taking shape.

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                      JoeySmith last edited by

                      Paul wants a #1 hit in America. He wont get that with 60's/70's artists. He will with Kanye.

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                      • oobu24
                        oobu24 last edited by

                        favoritething:

                        Let's not forget that Paul actually does like Kanye's music. He saw him in concert and praised his performance prior to this collaboration taking shape.

                        He's gone to quite a few concerts. He was even seen dancing at A GaGa concert!

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                          admin last edited by

                          If Paul McCartney needs to still be in the charts and to it he has to ride the coat tails of younger artists, well that just sucks.

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                            yankeefan7 last edited by

                            RMartinez:

                            If Paul McCartney needs to still be in the charts and to it he has to ride the coat tails of younger artists, well that just sucks.

                            Exactly !!!

                            Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                              favoritething last edited by

                              I suppose you could say he's been riding the coattails of younger artists for quite some time. - Producing the much-younger Mary Hopkin - Grabbing the hotshot young Jimmy McCulloch to pump up Wings - Doing three duets with Michael Jackson - Getting a series of hip young remixers from Jellybean Benitez to Freelance Hellraiser to do extended remixes - Writing with Elvis Costello to recover from the Broad Street disaster - Creating the Fireman persona with Youth to establish indie cred - Bringing in proven hitmaker producers Paul Epworth (Adele) and Mark Ronson (Amy Winehouse) for the "New" album Yep, he's sucked for a long time.

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                                admin last edited by

                                favoritething:

                                I suppose you could say he's been riding the coattails of younger artists for quite some time. - Producing the much-younger Mary Hopkin - Grabbing the hotshot young Jimmy McCulloch to pump up Wings - Doing three duets with Michael Jackson - Getting a series of hip young remixers from Jellybean Benitez to Freelance Hellraiser to do extended remixes - Writing with Elvis Costello to recover from the Broad Street disaster - Creating the Fireman persona with Youth to establish indie cred - Bringing in proven hitmaker producers Paul Epworth (Adele) and Mark Ronson (Amy Winehouse) for the "New" album Yep, he's sucked for a long time.

                                Your response is ridiculous. He was riding Mary Hopkin's coat tails? Get real. You know what I mean. Hey, we'll see if Paul gets what he needs from this. Working with Elvis Costello was the last real collaboration that carried any weight. The rest have been leading up to this. Now, as many have said, if he just WANTS to do it, that's cool. But I wish some would stop looking at this like it's some major boost to his career. It isn't.

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                                  Bruce M. last edited by

                                  Hey guys, might it not be that Paul just likes Kanye's music and wanted to work with him? He's shown through his career that he'll work with pretty much whomever he damn well wants to. Is this really such a suprise after all these years?!?!?

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                                    Ammar:

                                    [..] Why not do something with Billy Joel or David Gilmour who is always happy to do that with him?? and they are much more in the same level or type of music?? Jimmy page? Elvis Costello?

                                    Because that would be boring as hell. And this genuine collaboration with someone McCartney sees as an artistic peer has nothing to do with trying to be hip and score a hit again. If he is going for that, he would be singing a verse on an instant chart topper of Katy Perry.

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                                      Bruce M.:

                                      Hey guys, might it not be that Paul just likes Kanye's music and wanted to work with him? He's shown through his career that he'll work with pretty much whomever he damn well wants to. Is this really such a suprise after all these years?!?!?

                                      If nothing else, from a P.R. standpoint the move was genius for both of them. They've been all over the news for this. It isn't even about the song.

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                                      • Nancy R
                                        Nancy R last edited by

                                        RMartinez:

                                        favoritething:

                                        I suppose you could say he's been riding the coattails of younger artists for quite some time. - Producing the much-younger Mary Hopkin - Grabbing the hotshot young Jimmy McCulloch to pump up Wings - Doing three duets with Michael Jackson - Getting a series of hip young remixers from Jellybean Benitez to Freelance Hellraiser to do extended remixes - Writing with Elvis Costello to recover from the Broad Street disaster - Creating the Fireman persona with Youth to establish indie cred - Bringing in proven hitmaker producers Paul Epworth (Adele) and Mark Ronson (Amy Winehouse) for the "New" album Yep, he's sucked for a long time.

                                        Your response is ridiculous. He was riding Mary Hopkin's coat tails? Get real. You know what I mean. Hey, we'll see if Paul gets what he needs from this. Working with Elvis Costello was the last real collaboration that carried any weight. The rest have been leading up to this. Now, as many have said, if he just WANTS to do it, that's cool. But I wish some would stop looking at this like it's some major boost to his career. It isn't.

                                        Um...I think he/she was just being facetious. Didn't you see the ?

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                                          toris last edited by

                                          audi:

                                          Ammar:

                                          ...Why not do something with Billy Joel or David Gilmour who is always happy to do that with him?? and they are much more in the same level or type of music?? Jimmy page? Elvis Costello?

                                          Because none of them have had a hit since Joan Collins was a virgin.

                                          Ha ha!.... She was one?

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                                          • favoritething
                                            favoritething last edited by

                                            Nancy R:

                                            RMartinez:

                                            favoritething:

                                            I suppose you could say he's been riding the coattails of younger artists for quite some time. - Producing the much-younger Mary Hopkin - Grabbing the hotshot young Jimmy McCulloch to pump up Wings - Doing three duets with Michael Jackson - Getting a series of hip young remixers from Jellybean Benitez to Freelance Hellraiser to do extended remixes - Writing with Elvis Costello to recover from the Broad Street disaster - Creating the Fireman persona with Youth to establish indie cred - Bringing in proven hitmaker producers Paul Epworth (Adele) and Mark Ronson (Amy Winehouse) for the "New" album Yep, he's sucked for a long time.

                                            Your response is ridiculous. He was riding Mary Hopkin's coat tails? Get real. You know what I mean. Hey, we'll see if Paul gets what he needs from this. Working with Elvis Costello was the last real collaboration that carried any weight. The rest have been leading up to this. Now, as many have said, if he just WANTS to do it, that's cool. But I wish some would stop looking at this like it's some major boost to his career. It isn't.

                                            Um...I think he/she was just being facetious. Didn't you see the ?

                                            Mostly facetious, yes; obviously, Paul didn't get a career boost out of all the things I mentioned. My point is similar to Bruce's, that Paul gets excited by new talent and new directions in music and he wants to participate. And he has a long history of trying to remain relevant to contemporary audiences ("Spies Like Us"? Hello?). This is nothing new. I mean, he just won a Grammy last year for working with guys decades younger than him on "Cut Me Some Slack." And how about putting Johnny Depp in so many of his recent videos? Is this really all that different from collaborating with Kanye West on a song that's not even rap? Paul's own "Struggle" and "Appreciate" are closer to rap than this! Kanye's not the nicest guy, it's true, but perhaps this is part of a plan to soften his image, and boost HIS standing. His last couple of projects didn't produce any Top 10 hits. Now it looks like he may have one, and it's a sweet song about family. Awwww!

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