THE NEXT DELUXE/REMASTERED ALBUM FROM PAUL
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Just watched the new Video (from the Archives) that has popped up on the PM Website. It deals with Paul's relationship with George Martin and specifically with Paul and George working on Keep Under Cover during the Pipes of Peace Sessions. The video was fascinating for showing their special relationship. The highlight for me was watching Paul sing the beginning of Keep Under Cover. See around the 4:25 minute spot. His voice is just so unbelievably smooth. I'm guessing this is 1983 and in my mind his vocals were still at a peak. Curious what others think. I like Keep Under Cover as a whole...one of my favorites on Pipes. Don't know why but it makes me think of Smokey Robinson and some of his Motown love songs. Maybe someone can tell me but it looked like Giles Martin on a couple of the clips. Could that be true. Aside from Nigel Goodrich, I would really like Giles to be Paul's next overall Producer. I liked his work with Paul on NEW and he appears to be very much like his Dad in his demeanor which I think is good for Paul.
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beatlesfanrandy:
steveramon:
Ive always preferred the Broad Street Version of So Bad But i Love the Video
As a movie with acting it is not so good, but as a collection of musical performances, Give My Regards to Broadstreet is quite excellent. The album is very good!
That sounds like a diplomatic way of describing the movie as crap save for the musical performances which are essentially video clips. He should have strung the clips together as a one hour special for MTV to promote an album.
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moptops:
beatlesfanrandy:
steveramon:
Ive always preferred the Broad Street Version of So Bad But i Love the Video
As a movie with acting it is not so good, but as a collection of musical performances, Give My Regards to Broadstreet is quite excellent. The album is very good!
That sounds like a diplomatic way of describing the movie as crap save for the musical performances which are essentially video clips. He should have strung the clips together as a one hour special for MTV to promote an album.
Would have been cheaper for him to do just that.
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B J Conlee:
Maybe someone can tell me but it looked like Giles Martin on a couple of the clips. Could that be true. Aside from Nigel Goodrich, I would really like Giles to be Paul's next overall Producer. I liked his work with Paul on NEW and he appears to be very much like his Dad in his demeanor which I think is good for Paul.
Looked like Giles to me too. And I agree with your last statement!
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B J Conlee:
Maybe someone can tell me but it looked like Giles Martin on a couple of the clips. Could that be true.
Unlikely as Giles was only (about) 11 years old at the time.
You can see James walking across the background at about the 3:10 mark though. The younger engineer (Geoff Emerick being the senior one) who is glimpsed a couple of times is Jon Jacobs. -
Wasn't a young Giles lucky enough to be dating young Mary McCartney for a brief time? Oh............Mary.
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Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
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I love 'Average Person' and I'm worried about it
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moptops:
beatlesfanrandy:
steveramon:
Ive always preferred the Broad Street Version of So Bad But i Love the Video
As a movie with acting it is not so good, but as a collection of musical performances, Give My Regards to Broadstreet is quite excellent. The album is very good!
That sounds like a diplomatic way of describing the movie as crap save for the musical performances which are essentially video clips. He should have strung the clips together as a one hour special for MTV to promote an album.
As a "movie" it is dreadful. Not one of Bryan Brown's better moments. Although, if I was an actor at the time I'd perhaps have not have passed up the opportunity.... there would be many, of course, suggesting he didn't really up the ante with Cocktail... although that at least had a proper script. .. still, I enjoy the soundtrack enough.
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B J Conlee:
Just watched the new Video (from the Archives) that has popped up on the PM Website. It deals with Paul's relationship with George Martin and specifically with Paul and George working on Keep Under Cover during the Pipes of Peace Sessions. The video was fascinating for showing their special relationship. The highlight for me was watching Paul sing the beginning of Keep Under Cover. See around the 4:25 minute spot. His voice is just so unbelievably smooth. I'm guessing this is 1983 and in my mind his vocals were still at a peak. Curious what others think. I like Keep Under Cover as a whole...one of my favorites on Pipes. Don't know why but it makes me think of Smokey Robinson and some of his Motown love songs. Maybe someone can tell me but it looked like Giles Martin on a couple of the clips. Could that be true. Aside from Nigel Goodrich, I would really like Giles to be Paul's next overall Producer. I liked his work with Paul on NEW and he appears to be very much like his Dad in his demeanor which I think is good for Paul.
A great video, that. And I always loved Keep Under Cover.
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B J Conlee:
Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
Agreed. If only Paul would have done a mid 80s tour with his voice. We might have gotten many of those songs. Although,sadly, I can understand why he didn't.
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edcrawf:
B J Conlee:
Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
Agreed. If only Paul would have done a mid 80s tour with his voice. We might have gotten many of those songs. Although,sadly, I can understand why he didn't.
Why sadly in mid '80's? Mid '90's was the sad time with Linda being diagnosed with breast cancer.
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edcrawf:
B J Conlee:
Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
Agreed. If only Paul would have done a mid 80s tour with his voice. We might have gotten many of those songs. Although,sadly, I can understand why he didn't.
Besides the obvious reason, a Paul McCartney tour in the early/mid-'80s would've still been unlikely, as he was -- yet again -- without a band... ...which, for a while, was just fine with him. Even if he'd considered touring on TOW and PoP, at that point in his career, his status was far too elevated for him to risk a full-scale tour while schlepping a makeshift band that wasn't really ready to play; he'd already made that error once with the earlier incarnations of Wings. However, get this: I think an '86 tour would've absolutely happened if Press To Play hadn't flopped so miserably. At the time, McCartney truly believed in the record. Plus, he was establishing solid relationships with key studio musicians who had major potential to make a great backing-band for Macca, some of whom had previously toured with David Bowie and other major acts. It had to be a major, major letdown for the guy when the album became his first record that failed to reach Gold...or Pewter, for that matter. "ZING!"
So, if a tour were gonna happen in 1986 or '87, PTP's failure killed it. The rest is history, of course. -
Nancy R:
edcrawf:
B J Conlee:
Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
Agreed. If only Paul would have done a mid 80s tour with his voice. We might have gotten many of those songs. Although,sadly, I can understand why he didn't.
Why sadly in mid '80's? Mid '90's was the sad time with Linda being diagnosed with breast cancer.
True. Mid 90s was also a sad time. I was thinking more along the lines of the recent TOW & POP releases. The obvious reason being already mentioned by Audi in another reply..........
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audi:
edcrawf:
B J Conlee:
Thanks for the answers. I thought it was a real hoot that Paul after singing the intro verse to Keep Under Cover beautifully then proceeded to sing the song very jokingly like the way the Beatles often did in the day. I liked the way George Martin was kind of singing along and laughing with Paul. That is definitely George's sense of humor and Paul knew it. I also liked the way Paul was making faces while he was singing Keep Under Cover seriously. George and I guess Geoff Emerick had a look of disbelief that he could sing that good while making those faces. Only wish that Paul could sing that well today. If that were the case, we would probably hear Wanderlust, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace (the songs) and many others we wish he would play today.
Agreed. If only Paul would have done a mid 80s tour with his voice. We might have gotten many of those songs. Although,sadly, I can understand why he didn't.
Besides the obvious reason, a Paul McCartney tour in the early/mid-'80s would've still been unlikely, as he was -- yet again -- without a band... ...which, for a while, was just fine with him. Even if he'd considered touring on TOW and PoP, at that point in his career, his status was far too elevated for him to risk a full-scale tour while schlepping a makeshift band that wasn't really ready to play; he'd already made that error once with the earlier incarnations of Wings. However, get this: I think an '86 tour would've absolutely happened if Press To Play hadn't flopped so miserably. At the time, McCartney truly believed in the record. Plus, he was establishing solid relationships with key studio musicians who had major potential to make a great backing-band for Macca, some of whom had previously toured with David Bowie and other major acts. It had to be a major, major letdown for the guy when the album became his first record that failed to reach Gold...or Pewter, for that matter. "ZING!"
So, if a tour were gonna happen in 1986 or '87, PTP's failure killed it. The rest is history, of course.
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I know the TOW and POP releases are still new, and while I'm a little disappointed in the jumping around chronologically, I am pretty excited about the potential extras in a Flowers In The Dirt deluxe edition. I was just brainstorming what might be included. As for songs that were officially released in that era, besides the 13 track CD, here is what I am thinking: 1. Once Upon A Long Ago (although this might well end up on a Press To Play reissue, assuming that happens eventually - there are also long and extended versions of this - the completist in me wants all officially released tracks included) 2. Back On My Feet (probably goes with the song above since it was on that single. 3. Flying To My Home (from My Brave Face single) 4. The First Stone (#4, 5, and 6 were all on incarnations of the This One single) 5. Good Sign 6. I Wanna Cry 7. This One (Club Lovejoys Mix) (from Figure Of Eight 12" single) 8. Ou Est Le Soleil (I believe there are at least 6 different alternative mixes on various singles) 9. Loveliest Thing (from Figure Of Eight CD single) 10. Mama's Little Girl (although this would probably be on a Wild Life/Red Rose Speedway reissue since it was recorded then) 11. Same Time Next Year (also recorded previously - I think in London Town era) 12. A bunch of live stuff, so it depends if there would be a separate Tripping The Live Fantastic - things like All My Trials, PS Love Me Do, Let 'Em In, C Moon, Mull Of Kintyre, and Strawberry Fields Forever/Help!/Give Peace A Chance 13. Figure Of Eight 7" Remix 14. Party Party Then there is the Return To Pepperland tracks recorded just before this, which has several tracks that would be released a little later: 15. Love Come Tumbling Down (from Beautiful Night CD single) 16. Same Love (from Beautiful Night CD single) Parts of a few others were on the Oobu Joobu tracks on the Flaming Pie singles as well, such as I Love This House, Beautiful Night (Original Version), Love Mix, Squid, and Atlantic Ocean. Are there other possibilities as well? I would imagine there are some cool demos with Elvis Costello that could be included. I just think this has a chance to be a really good reissue if done correctly.
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Iowa Hawkeye Beatlefan:
I know the TOW and POP releases are still new, and while I'm a little disappointed in the jumping around chronologically, I am pretty excited about the potential extras in a Flowers In The Dirt deluxe edition. I was just brainstorming what might be included. As for songs that were officially released in that era, besides the 13 track CD, here is what I am thinking: 1. Once Upon A Long Ago (although this might well end up on a Press To Play reissue, assuming that happens eventually - there are also long and extended versions of this - the completist in me wants all officially released tracks included) 2. Back On My Feet (probably goes with the song above since it was on that single. 3. Flying To My Home (from My Brave Face single) 4. The First Stone (#4, 5, and 6 were all on incarnations of the This One single) 5. Good Sign 6. I Wanna Cry 7. This One (Club Lovejoys Mix) (from Figure Of Eight 12" single) 8. Ou Est Le Soleil (I believe there are at least 6 different alternative mixes on various singles) 9. Loveliest Thing (from Figure Of Eight CD single) 10. Mama's Little Girl (although this would probably be on a Wild Life/Red Rose Speedway reissue since it was recorded then) 11. Same Time Next Year (also recorded previously - I think in London Town era) 12. A bunch of live stuff, so it depends if there would be a separate Tripping The Live Fantastic - things like All My Trials, PS Love Me Do, Let 'Em In, C Moon, Mull Of Kintyre, and Strawberry Fields Forever/Help!/Give Peace A Chance 13. Figure Of Eight 7" Remix 14. Party Party Then there is the Return To Pepperland tracks recorded just before this, which has several tracks that would be released a little later: 15. Love Come Tumbling Down (from Beautiful Night CD single) 16. Same Love (from Beautiful Night CD single) Parts of a few others were on the Oobu Joobu tracks on the Flaming Pie singles as well, such as I Love This House, Beautiful Night (Original Version), Love Mix, Squid, and Atlantic Ocean. Are there other possibilities as well? I would imagine there are some cool demos with Elvis Costello that could be included. I just think this has a chance to be a really good reissue if done correctly.
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Iowa Hawkeye Beatlefan:
I know the TOW and POP releases are still new, and while I'm a little disappointed in the jumping around chronologically, I am pretty excited about the potential extras in a Flowers In The Dirt deluxe edition. I was just brainstorming what might be included. As for songs that were officially released in that era, besides the 13 track CD, here is what I am thinking: 1. Once Upon A Long Ago (although this might well end up on a Press To Play reissue, assuming that happens eventually - there are also long and extended versions of this - the completist in me wants all officially released tracks included) 2. Back On My Feet (probably goes with the song above since it was on that single. 3. Flying To My Home (from My Brave Face single) 4. The First Stone (#4, 5, and 6 were all on incarnations of the This One single) 5. Good Sign 6. I Wanna Cry 7. This One (Club Lovejoys Mix) (from Figure Of Eight 12" single) 8. Ou Est Le Soleil (I believe there are at least 6 different alternative mixes on various singles) 9. Loveliest Thing (from Figure Of Eight CD single) 10. Mama's Little Girl (although this would probably be on a Wild Life/Red Rose Speedway reissue since it was recorded then) 11. Same Time Next Year (also recorded previously - I think in London Town era) 12. A bunch of live stuff, so it depends if there would be a separate Tripping The Live Fantastic - things like All My Trials, PS Love Me Do, Let 'Em In, C Moon, Mull Of Kintyre, and Strawberry Fields Forever/Help!/Give Peace A Chance 13. Figure Of Eight 7" Remix 14. Party Party Then there is the Return To Pepperland tracks recorded just before this, which has several tracks that would be released a little later: 15. Love Come Tumbling Down (from Beautiful Night CD single) 16. Same Love (from Beautiful Night CD single) Parts of a few others were on the Oobu Joobu tracks on the Flaming Pie singles as well, such as I Love This House, Beautiful Night (Original Version), Love Mix, Squid, and Atlantic Ocean. Are there other possibilities as well? I would imagine there are some cool demos with Elvis Costello that could be included. I just think this has a chance to be a really good reissue if done correctly.
_______________________________________________ Iowa Hawkeye Your absolutely correct....the Flowers in the Dirt Bonus tracks could be awesome. Another song I think of from the Return to Pepperland sessions is "Lindiana" which I think is a terrific song. I just wonder if Paul and team have a future Anthology type project up their sleeve after the current Album reissues Series is completed. This future series could possibly be based on each Decade and could focus more on unreleased and rare songs, live tracks, etc. Any thoughts?
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Iowa Hawkeye Beatlefan:
I would imagine there are some cool demos with Elvis Costello that could be included.
Indeed there are - I've actually heard the demos of "My Brave Face", "You Want Her Too" & "Don't Be Careless Love", and they're fantastic. In the case of "Don't Be Careless Love", I actually prefer the demo to the final, released version. There are also demos of the Paul co-written songs that wound up on Costello's records - "So Like Candy" for instance.
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Am mad to know, what are the extra bonus songs included on the "Pipes of Peace" remaster? I know "My Little Koala" is one, and I'm thrilled it's on there. Such a smooth groove
