Paul's Solo (Post 1980) more visability
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WingsOfMacca:
yankeefan7:
Beats me why he does not play things from the 80's especially from TOW. The title song is awesome and "Take It Away was a top 20 single. McCartney does not play anything from FITD because once he tours and that record was his most recent release on that tour, he rarely goes back and plays anything from it again. "Hope of Deliverance" (OFG) is one of the few songs he has actually done a few times after featuring it on another tour (1993). I wonder why he feels it is a obligation to do "Here Today"/ "Something" at every show. He has paid his respect to Lennon and Harrison many times now and if he did not do it I am sure the audience would not care. BTW - Does Mick Jagger dedicate a song every night to Brian Jones? Does Daltry and Townsend dedicate a song every night to Keith Moon or John Enwhistle? There are plenty of other examples but I think you will get the point. Maybe I am being cynical but if the roles were reversed, I don't think Lennon would be singing tribute song to McCartney at every show.
Maybe because Jagger/Richards hate Jones, and Paul loves John and George. And maybe because Paul believes that Beatles were the best thing happened in his profesional life.
I have no idea about the relationships in the Rolling Stones but just using it as an example and think it is fairly obvious the point I was trying to make.
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"Wings Greatest" and "All the Best!" were commercial flops too so I don't think it should stop new compilations that it might not be # 1 on the charts. I think it would be natural with a summary after so many years. It could perhaps also serve as an introduction to his studio albums the last thirty years. There is a lot of music to maneuver in. Even classical music. Slightly harder job maybe since you don't have the obvious hits, taste, personal favorites... but maybe songs that represent much of what he has done musically. An overview
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Hendrix Ibsen:
"Wings Greatest" and "All the Best!" were commercial flops too so I don't think it should stop new compilations that it might not be # 1 on the charts. I think it would be natural with a summary after so many years. It could perhaps also serve as an introduction to his studio albums the last thirty years. There is a lot of music to maneuver in. Even classical music. Slightly harder job maybe since you don't have the obvious hits, taste, personal favorites... but maybe songs that represent much of what he has done musically. An overview
They both sold 2 million copies in the US alone. Hardly a flop to me. With that said I would love a post 1985 compilation. Sadly may not happen for a long time.
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In the long run maybe. It reached only #62 (All the Best!) and #29 (Wings Greatest) on the Billboard Charts. But it is also what is my point. I think this would be good in the long run. Focusing on good things in his discography, musical highlights and great songs even if they have not been big hits.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
In the long run maybe. It reached only #62 (All the Best!) and #29 (Wings Greatest) on the Billboard Charts. But it is also what is my point. I think this would be good in the long run. Focusing on good things in his discography, musical highlights and great songs even if they have not been big hits.
Don't forget Wingspan, which reached #2 in the U.S. Of course, it was promoted with a primetime TV special.
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Yeah, he's a had a resurgence on the charts in the States since "Flaming Pie", hasn't he? His first top 10 since "Pipes of Peace". Since then, it has gone better.
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David Bowie's triple disc compilation "Nothing Has Changed" is a career spanning overview from 1964-2014. Bowie had no big hits between "Lets Dance" (1983) and "Where Are We Now?" (2013) but he always include songs from this period and newer songs on updated compilations. But he also release compilations more often than McCartney so it has become a part of the progression.
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Maybe if you read over and over again that your best years were 1962-1970 and that you've never done anything since Band on the Run, you start to believe it after a while.
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Yeah, and if the music business doesn't think his music the last thirty years are worthy of a compilation, it will probably not change... Take a look at compilations out there and see what they endlessly recycle.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
In the long run maybe. It reached only #62 (All the Best!) and #29 (Wings Greatest) on the Billboard Charts. But it is also what is my point. I think this would be good in the long run. Focusing on good things in his discography, musical highlights and great songs even if they have not been big hits.
Agreed. Long term it would be great.
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HaileyMcComet:
Maybe if you read over and over again that your best years were 1962-1970 and that you've never done anything since Band on the Run, you start to believe it after a while.
If I were a musician I would have no problem having a career and sales that Paul has done from 1975 to present. I will add I would be happy with only post 1975 sales and chart positions. Sorry can't seem to do proper sentences today.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
David Bowie's triple disc compilation "Nothing Has Changed" is a career spanning overview from 1964-2014. Bowie had no big hits between "Lets Dance" (1983) and "Where Are We Now?" (2013) but he always include songs from this period and newer songs on updated compilations. But he also release compilations more often than McCartney so it has become a part of the progression.
Exactly. Both Bowie and Paul have had similar US chart placing s and sales post 1985.
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Wilco released an essential 1994-2014 tracks compilation last year. A double album with 19 songs on each disc. None of those songs were big hits so I think essential is a good idea. I also think it is some of the best songs the last twenty years. Jeff Tweedy is a great songwriter to my ears. I have everything with Wilco, and even Uncle Tupelo, Tweedy's former band and solo albums. But just like McCartney is it not exactly the kind of songs that have been No. 1 the last decades. It's just very good craftsmanship. For my part, I had loved a similar collection of essential McCartney tracks, about 1985-2015.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Wilco released an essential 1994-2014 tracks compilation last year. A double album with 19 songs on each disc. None of those songs were big hits so I think essential is a good idea. I also think it is some of the best songs the last twenty years. Jeff Tweedy is a great songwriter to my ears. I have everything with Wilco, and even Uncle Tupelo, Tweedy's former band and solo albums. But just like McCartney is it not exactly the kind of songs that have been No. 1 the last decades. It's just very good craftsmanship. For my part, I had loved a similar collection of essential McCartney tracks, about 1985-2015.
I think if it were a 3cd set like Bowie did encompassing Paul's entire career then people might buy. Here in the US Paul was able to get top ten hits between 1970 and 1985. Post 1985, some albums in the US top ten. In fact I got bowies collection just yesterday even though I have previous collections.
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Yes, I have it too. There are some rare mixes there, and songs from the abandoned "Toys" project with new recordings of songs he originally recorded in the 60s. I also thought it was worth it because of the span from 1964-2014. It goes as far back as the start for the first time on a compilation instead of starting with the breaktrough 1969 single "Space Oddity". I would certainly thought it was exciting if they did something similar with McCartney. Maybe more people would discover that his songs since the 80s are just as good even though they are not as big hits. I know that in any case already...
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Top 40 billboard hits presently aren't very impressive at all, makes you turn to the past although there are a few which are enjoyable. That one about "I wanna take shots with somebody" (those few chords sound like a Whitney Houston sample "I Wanna Dance with Somebody), the male singer has a compelling sound, it's right catchy with a dance beat...that song with Michelle Pfeiffer and "white gold" is upbeat, kind of fun... "Shut up and Dance With Me" song is uptempo and perky, sounds like something from the 80's, methinks. Getting tired of that one as it's played too often. I like part of Taylor Swift's "James Dean" but hate part. I don't like her song "Bad Blood."
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that song with Michelle Pfeiffer and "white gold" is upbeat...that's MARK RONSON w/Bruno Mars ..Mark produced something couple years back....hmmm hmmm (i forget) OHH Paul McCartney New!!!!, wonder if he offered Paul THAT song??
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This is a great idea that I would love to see happen, but, unfortunately, I agree with Bruce's sentiment on its unlikeliness. If this was to be commercially feasible at all, it wouldn't focus so much on the best songs from his more recent music, but rather the songs that would be of more interest to casual listeners: his collaborations. It would have to consist overwhelmingly of his music with Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Costello, David Gilmour, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, and so on; somewhat like Tony Bennett's highly successful "Duets" series. That's the only way to drive in the biggest music audience of younger listeners. In the process, he could also slip in some of the better songs he's done on his own in recent years, but most people will skip them if it doesn't have anyone on it they recognize or care about. The more realistic option is to do what David Bowie did last year and just to release a fresh solo compilation album from scratch that goes from his first solo recording to the present day. The inclusion of all the familiar hits would be enough to sufficiently attract people's attention while also allowing some of his most recent songs to share the spotlight alongside them and get at least some of the recognition they deserve. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this actually happens in about 10 years time because compilations prove to be reliably successful (hence so many acts release so many of them). I'm sure Paul would love the opportunity to make the rounds of media again and promote some highlights of his solo career. For marketing purposes, they would have to include some bug-name collaborations anyway and he'll surely record some new songs for it, as both Bowie and Madonna did for theirs to sweeten the deal. He could make it even more appealing by including alternative versions and/or remixes of the more familiar songs that us hardcore fans have already bought a hundred times...
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Well, I don't know what everybody likes, I don't even know what my neighbor likes, but I'm pretty sure that a listener who is well into the music of McCartney can put together a good compilation and find 'the heart of it'. Whether it sells or not, one finds out... This is not climbing the Mount Everest, it's just a music geek thing. I don't understand why it should be so difficult.
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Here is something interesting I came across in the "Ultimate Music Guide: Paul McCartney" issue put out last year by Uncut magazine from a 1987 interview they did: Would you ever have a go at something in a DefJam rap style? "No, it's too much of a separate entity, I'd get slagged off for even trying. That's why I've shied away from reggae. I don't want to be seen as comin' in on their act. It's like people who became Merseybeaters, like The Jam. There was one of their songs ["Start"] that was dangerously close to 'Taxman'. I don't mind that, it's quite flattering, but the rap stuff is a very particular style and I'd rather leave that to the people who know what they're doing."
