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    • KingMacca
      KingMacca last edited by

      Just rediscovered this song, I'm in love!! Anyone else feel the same way?!

      7/15/11- Yankee Stadium
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      7/5/14- Times Union Center
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      9/15/17- Madison Square Garden

      Thank you Paul!

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      • Kestrel
        Kestrel last edited by

        After 'How Kind Of You', its my favourite song from 'Chaos.....'.

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        'Give My Regards To Broad Street' film premier, London 29th November 1984.

        Docklands Arena rehearsal concert, London 5th February 1993.

        Run Devil Run launch party, Equinox Club, London 30th September 1999.

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        • Jock Tamson
          Jock Tamson last edited by

          I agree, I think this is a great song. I think its quite dark and has a real menacing atmoshpere to it. I don't think the timescale is right but Heather Mills always comes to mind when I listen to it (although I think I read somewhere that it may be about Geoff Baker).

          In Scotland, it is common to hear the phrase, "We're all Jock Tamson's Bairns", meaning "we're all the same under the skin" or "we are all God's children".

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          • toris
            toris last edited by

            Not one of my faves. Don't think much of it. A little forced.

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              admin last edited by

              Too Much Rain is Classic

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              • yankeefan7
                yankeefan7 last edited by

                Kestrel:

                After 'How Kind Of You', its my favourite song from 'Chaos.....'.

                I agree, "Too Much Rain" is close 2nd

                Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                  femaleanimal last edited by

                  Jock Tamson:

                  I agree, I think this is a great song. I think its quite dark and has a real menacing atmoshpere to it. I don't think the timescale is right but Heather Mills always comes to mind when I listen to it (although I think I read somewhere that it may be about Geoff Baker).

                  Ha! There was a huge debate about this on the board at the time! Geoff really wasn't important enough to have a song written about him. I don't think there is much doubt now that it was about Heather- but Paul will never say, of course.

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                  • Jock Tamson
                    Jock Tamson last edited by

                    femaleanimal:

                    Ha! There was a huge debate about this on the board at the time! Geoff really wasn't important enough to have a song written about him. I don't think there is much doubt now that it was about Heather- but Paul will never say, of course.

                    It could be Paul's equivalent of John's "Steel and Glass"which I think was about Allen Klein. Also wondered if "dogs and bitches hunt for fame" from Queenie Eye was an oblique reference to the aforesaid Ms Mills?

                    In Scotland, it is common to hear the phrase, "We're all Jock Tamson's Bairns", meaning "we're all the same under the skin" or "we are all God's children".

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                      admin last edited by

                      That's one thing about Paul's songwriting if something is bugging him he will write a song about it. Not sure if Vanity Fair is related to the Beatles break up or Heather Mills.

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                      • favoritething
                        favoritething last edited by

                        Well, songwriters (including me, by the way) have a way of being inspired by one little thing and then fleshing a song out into something totally unrelated, so in that way, it could have been inspired by Geoff Baker and then spun off into a whole fictional scenario. Not all songs have just one meaning; they are often a bunch of unrelated impressions or thoughts or ideas strung together. That's the way I see "Mr. Bellamy" too (another frequently cited song in that vein). I remember an interview where Paul said he and Heather were staying in a rented "smart" house that would alert you if a door wasn't locked by displaying "Something's open." So Paul took that and stuck it into "Driving Rain" ("Something's open, it's my heart."). Does it really "mean" anything? Not really.

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                          admin last edited by

                          KingMacca:

                          Just rediscovered this song, I'm in love!! Anyone else feel the same way?!

                          Yes Like the song the lyrics are something to relate to in personal life

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                            rich n last edited by

                            I don't konw why Paul wrote the song, but I thought it was pretty funny that he all but quoted it after Yoko Ono made her 'Salieri to Mozart' comment (comparing Paul to John)

                            The Willow turns his back on inclement weather

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                            • love2travel
                              love2travel last edited by

                              I've always liked this song, At the time I remember thinking that this one and Mr. Bellamy were probably about Heather, of course I have no idea really. That's how they both struck me at the first listen.

                              rich n:

                              I don't konw why Paul wrote the song, but I thought it was pretty funny that he all but quoted it after Yoko Ono made her 'Salieri to Mozart' comment (comparing Paul to John)

                              Don't think it was about Yoko but I could see why he could have quoted this song, after that comment!! Salieri why that's nervy, however she was sticking up for her husband, so you could see why she would say something like that, maybe. Wives do adore their husbands... Gonna cut her a break on that, even tho in no way is it really true about Paul being the Salieri!!! Of course Paul is the Mozart... (cough)um what classical music has John written? Has he? I am curious, because I have never heard any.

                              Joy to the World - Peace on Earth - We are all ONE

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                              • Kathryn O
                                Kathryn O last edited by

                                Jock Tamson:

                                femaleanimal:

                                Ha! There was a huge debate about this on the board at the time! Geoff really wasn't important enough to have a song written about him. I don't think there is much doubt now that it was about Heather- but Paul will never say, of course.

                                It could be Paul's equivalent of John's "Steel and Glass"which I think was about Allen Klein. Also wondered if "dogs and bitches hunt for fame" from Queenie Eye was an oblique reference to the aforesaid Ms Mills?

                                I think 'dogs and bitches' was a nod to every person Paul met that was like that in his life. and HM was not the only one.

                                "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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                                • Kathryn O
                                  Kathryn O last edited by

                                  and I sometimes get the shivers when I hear the song when I play the album. I think I'll dig it out for a listen again. it's been a while

                                  "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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                                  • Bruce M.
                                    Bruce M. last edited by

                                    Great song and arrangement. So sinister and menacing -- not Paul's usual modes.

                                    "The only true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, loyalty to government when it deserves it."

                                    \--Mark Twain

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                                      admin last edited by

                                      Love this song so much, very dark, almost bitter! I like it when Paul sometimes writes out his 'darker' side. I personally think it is about John & Yoko from way back..

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                                        admin last edited by

                                        love2travel:

                                        I've always liked this song, At the time I remember thinking that this one and Mr. Bellamy were probably about Heather, of course I have no idea really. That's how they both struck me at the first listen.

                                        rich n:

                                        I don't konw why Paul wrote the song, but I thought it was pretty funny that he all but quoted it after Yoko Ono made her 'Salieri to Mozart' comment (comparing Paul to John)

                                        Don't think it was about Yoko but I could see why he could have quoted this song, after that comment!! Salieri why that's nervy, however she was sticking up for her husband, so you could see why she would say something like that, maybe. Wives do adore their husbands... Gonna cut her a break on that, even tho in no way is it really true about Paul being the Salieri!!! Of course Paul is the Mozart... (cough)um what classical music has John written? Has he? I am curious, because I have never heard any.

                                        LOL I love that comment. Im a Mozart fan myself and I have to agree that Paul is a Mozart since he wrote classical music. Yoko is Salieri! She may be sticking up for John but really she's gotta let go of old grudges. Life's too short to hold grudges against somebody.

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                                          rich n last edited by

                                          maccasfangirl30:

                                          love2travel:

                                          I've always liked this song, At the time I remember thinking that this one and Mr. Bellamy were probably about Heather, of course I have no idea really. That's how they both struck me at the first listen.

                                          rich n:

                                          I don't konw why Paul wrote the song, but I thought it was pretty funny that he all but quoted it after Yoko Ono made her 'Salieri to Mozart' comment (comparing Paul to John)

                                          Don't think it was about Yoko but I could see why he could have quoted this song, after that comment!! Salieri why that's nervy, however she was sticking up for her husband, so you could see why she would say something like that, maybe. Wives do adore their husbands... Gonna cut her a break on that, even tho in no way is it really true about Paul being the Salieri!!! Of course Paul is the Mozart... (cough)um what classical music has John written? Has he? I am curious, because I have never heard any.

                                          LOL I love that comment. Im a Mozart fan myself and I have to agree that Paul is a Mozart since he wrote classical music. Yoko is Salieri! She may be sticking up for John but really she's gotta let go of old grudges. Life's too short to hold grudges against somebody.

                                          True - and in reality, she can 'stick up' for her man without having to dish on another (especially when the other is Paul McCartney)

                                          The Willow turns his back on inclement weather

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                                          • SusyLuvsPaul
                                            SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                                            I always thought the lyrics are about Heather M. (?) The Riding to Vanity Fair song

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