2017 Setlist Speculation Thread
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BigBunny:
I'm in Perth, Australia and I'll be seeing/hearing Paul for the first time live in December I'm hoping Helter Skelter & I'm Down will be in the setlist. looks like he isn't playing those songs right now anything from Revolver & The White Album I'd love to hear live. I also love Early Days & Sing The Changes.
__________________________________________________ Good suggestions Big Bunny. Unfortunately, Paul at 75 can't sing Helter Skelter or I'm Down anymore. Maybe by the time you see him in December he might change the setlist to include a couple from Revolver. He does do Blackbird and Back in the USSR from the White album. I love Early Days and Sing the Changes. Hope for you he adds them for Australia. Another bonus is that you might get a song or two from a his new upcoming album that might be released this October.
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BigBunny:
I'm in Perth, Australia and I'll be seeing/hearing Paul for the first time live in December I'm hoping Helter Skelter & I'm Down will be in the setlist. looks like he isn't playing those songs right now anything from Revolver & The White Album I'd love to hear live. I also love Early Days & Sing The Changes.
Even though it isn't a mainstay anymore, "Helter Skelter" seems to pop up now and then...the others, not at all. But really...who knows!
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thenightfish:
Skimming but I will go back and read Wix' comments more thoroughly, and thanks for them. Mini changes from Miami to Tampa...Save Us out, Junior's Farm in; Letting Go out, Jet in. And what did Get Back replace....Birthday? Will see what happens in Duluth. And I agree with your comment on the Tampa thread about Sgt Pepper...I almost thought he was going to do Day In the Life afterwards. The current placement with Hi Hi Hi feels awkward. I wonder if that is going to stay or move.
"Get Back" replaced "Birthday" and I'm thinking it was solely because of the mother/son combo. Also unless I totally missed it, they did not have a sign and they also had VIP stickers on their bodies so I think that was setup well in advance.
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B J Conlee:
__________________________________________________________ WixRocks, Thanks so much for the great summary. You were cracking me up with a lot of your comments. I have to say after reading your comments (here and on the Tampa thread) I'm glad I didn't spend the money to go to last night's concert. I still don't like the setlist in general plus there are certain songs that he just can't sing anymore. Like you, I'm a huge fan. It would be quite painful to hear Paul sing a great song like MIA. As he was struggling, I couldn't help be thinking how well he sang MIA in 2002 or 2005. As Yankeefan said, it would be like watching a Hall of Fame Baseball Player (e.g. Willie Mays) still trying to play when he is 42 years old and way over the hill. Paul really needs an "objective" Music Director (I love Wix but it should be someone not in the band) that is not afraid to tell him that he no longer can sing certain songs even it they are signature ones. Too bad one of his children did not take an active part in his Music career. It would take someone really close to him to be brutally honest because Paul (and I love the guy) seems to be quite stubborn. It was very interesting to hear your comments on "Love Me Do". The song itself wouldn't be on my Top 100 Paul songs (Beatles,Wings, Solo) but I'm not surprised at all about the reaction. I've said it in a few of my previous posts. It was a perfect addition a couple of years ago considering his age and current voice. Again, the reason for the very positive reaction was not at all a surprise to me. Itt is easy to sing and the crowd joins in and takes over. It smacks Beatlemania to the heavy Boomer, Beatle audience. Wix's harmonica is spot on by the way. As I have said, Paul needs more songs like this. Ob-La-Di continues to go down very well for the same reasons. I know your feeling about a song like" When I'm 64" not being an rock arena song but I still think last night's crowd (that you so ably described) would have gone nuts over this type of sing-along that everyone knows. Easy to sing and they would have just taken over. Another part of Paul's show that has totally disappeared is the "spontaneity" factor. I was watching the bit (On Periscope) where Paul was reading the signs from the audience. When he read the sign about the guy who was having his 64th birthday, Paul should have just turned around to Wix and motion to do a little When I'm 64 on the piano. The crowd would have gone CRAZY!! These are great professional musicians and Wix could have easily done it. Unfortunately, Paul isn't very spontaneous with things like that. He just does the same old stories whereas last night was a perfect opportunity to just ad lib "When I'm 64. Should I mention that "64" came from Sgt. Pepper. Even if I was a Beatle only Paul fan, I would have been very disappointed with this setlist. Only 2 songs from Sgt. Pepper when he mentions about the 50th anniversary coupled with the fact that it was just #1 on Billboard in America. I'll add to this later on! I saw a good bit of the concert on Periscope. Granted not like you saw it in person but I certainly got a good feeling for the show. Yes, Paul is one of the best performers in history and for the first timers I know they got their money's worth. But I still find the setlist to be bad from two perspectives...his current voice and the songs he has chosen to perform. Here's my take: Beatle Perspective *How do you play a tertiary song like "I Wanna Be Your Man" and skip Penny Lane, A Day in the Life or Getting Better. If I was Paul's music director I would have pushed him to do a Sgt. Pepper "medley" toward the end like: Sgt. Pepper song (the full one) Getting Better (Paul and the Band did this in 2002 and a lot of years have gone by) Penny Lane (I know it wasn't on the album proper but it is right in that era) Lovely Rita (again Paul and the Band have recently done it) Day in the Life Now a medley like this would have brought the house down!! It is the 50th anniversary for God sake!! To do just 2 songs (one being the 1 minute reprise) just doesn't show imagination and does little to justify an album as I said that just recently after 50 years hit # 1 on the Billboard charts. A tremendous achievement but Paul does little to take advantage of it and he has the audience (mainly boomers) that would just eat it up. And by the way, he can't sing "I've Got a Feeling anymore. Just scratch it and play another Sgt. Pepper song. And "I Wanna Be Your Man" is barely a tertiary Beatle song. Who cares about the Mick and Keith story. The real story and real history is that Sgt. Pepper just hit #1 on the current Billboard chart. To play "I Wanna be Your Man" and not Penny Lane or Day in the life is totally ludicrous. *Solo Perspective Where do I begin! Ok you played Temporary Secretary and 4-5 Seconds over the last year but why continue it. Temporary Secretary isn't even a tertiary Solo song for Paul and Paul can't sing 4-5 Seconds even a little bit. Why I ask! This whole "relevant" thing that I guess is coming from his Marketing team is totally irrelevant to his US audience today. Give us a couple of meaningful songs like Put It There or My Brave Face which again just had a historical reissue (FITD). Both songs are very Paul and Beatleesque. Many people in the audience may not remember "Put it there" but so many boomers as parents themselves can relate so easy to it. Paul tries to be too "hip" too often instead of playing his type of songs. His audience could care less about those 2 "relevant" songs. The 2 New Songs...ok you have played them over the last couple of years so now is the time to change up. If he wants to stick with the "NEW" album, play "Alligator" which I hear goes down well in his rehearsals as well as "I Can Bet" or "Early Days". Again, there doesn't appear to be any drive to play different Solo songs. I loved the 2002, 2005 and 2010 shows because he brought out so many fresh new songs (both Beatle and Solo) but since that time he no longer is the performer he once was from a "Setlist" Perspective. I love the Guy but I wish someone really close to him would be real honest. He has to stop singing some of these songs that he just can't sing anymore. I don't care if it is a song like MIA that is a true signature song. And some of the other songs where he really struggles to sing are just not necessary. He needs to find a couple of more songs like "Love Me Do" "Hard Days Night" and "Ob La Di" where his band can help him and the crowd sings along. Sorry for the long post but I'm a little psyched up from reading your very hones comments which I love. I know you are a great fan like me. Yes, for the 1st timers Paul will still delight but I can't help think of what someone else said a while back...the setlist/show could be significantly better.
BJ- glad I could provide some comic relief! If I had been by myself, it would have been harder to enjoy, I know that. Much of my joy came from sharing the songs I've heard many times with my family who still had very fresh ears towards them. I totally agree. He could play anything sung by any Beatle from 1962-1965 and it will be sheer madness. As for "When I'm Sixty-Four", I must confess, you are totally right. I think it would've gone down better than "Mr. Kite". I'm still perplexed by the reasoning behind "I wanna Be your Man". It was cool for Desert Trip...leave it there. As for FITD, my aunt asked me what the logo meant at the merch booth (the album cover). I told her what it was and sdhe said she didn't know that one. Then we were in the car driving home with Beatles radio station, here comes "My Brave Face" and she sings every word of it! She loved it back in the 80's and totally forgot it was even Paul. He has more pull than he thinks! Anyway, Paul needs honesty. Maybe Billy Joel can help him out, he's basically dropped his entire concert two whole steps in pitch....and besides he does know, honesty is such a lonely word
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Great reviews WixRocks! I thoroughly enjoyed them.
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WixRocks!:
B J Conlee:
__________________________________________________________ WixRocks, Thanks so much for the great summary. You were cracking me up with a lot of your comments. I have to say after reading your comments (here and on the Tampa thread) I'm glad I didn't spend the money to go to last night's concert. I still don't like the setlist in general plus there are certain songs that he just can't sing anymore. Like you, I'm a huge fan. It would be quite painful to hear Paul sing a great song like MIA. As he was struggling, I couldn't help be thinking how well he sang MIA in 2002 or 2005. As Yankeefan said, it would be like watching a Hall of Fame Baseball Player (e.g. Willie Mays) still trying to play when he is 42 years old and way over the hill. Paul really needs an "objective" Music Director (I love Wix but it should be someone not in the band) that is not afraid to tell him that he no longer can sing certain songs even it they are signature ones. Too bad one of his children did not take an active part in his Music career. It would take someone really close to him to be brutally honest because Paul (and I love the guy) seems to be quite stubborn. It was very interesting to hear your comments on "Love Me Do". The song itself wouldn't be on my Top 100 Paul songs (Beatles,Wings, Solo) but I'm not surprised at all about the reaction. I've said it in a few of my previous posts. It was a perfect addition a couple of years ago considering his age and current voice. Again, the reason for the very positive reaction was not at all a surprise to me. Itt is easy to sing and the crowd joins in and takes over. It smacks Beatlemania to the heavy Boomer, Beatle audience. Wix's harmonica is spot on by the way. As I have said, Paul needs more songs like this. Ob-La-Di continues to go down very well for the same reasons. I know your feeling about a song like" When I'm 64" not being an rock arena song but I still think last night's crowd (that you so ably described) would have gone nuts over this type of sing-along that everyone knows. Easy to sing and they would have just taken over. Another part of Paul's show that has totally disappeared is the "spontaneity" factor. I was watching the bit (On Periscope) where Paul was reading the signs from the audience. When he read the sign about the guy who was having his 64th birthday, Paul should have just turned around to Wix and motion to do a little When I'm 64 on the piano. The crowd would have gone CRAZY!! These are great professional musicians and Wix could have easily done it. Unfortunately, Paul isn't very spontaneous with things like that. He just does the same old stories whereas last night was a perfect opportunity to just ad lib "When I'm 64. Should I mention that "64" came from Sgt. Pepper. Even if I was a Beatle only Paul fan, I would have been very disappointed with this setlist. Only 2 songs from Sgt. Pepper when he mentions about the 50th anniversary coupled with the fact that it was just #1 on Billboard in America. I'll add to this later on! I saw a good bit of the concert on Periscope. Granted not like you saw it in person but I certainly got a good feeling for the show. Yes, Paul is one of the best performers in history and for the first timers I know they got their money's worth. But I still find the setlist to be bad from two perspectives...his current voice and the songs he has chosen to perform. Here's my take: Beatle Perspective *How do you play a tertiary song like "I Wanna Be Your Man" and skip Penny Lane, A Day in the Life or Getting Better. If I was Paul's music director I would have pushed him to do a Sgt. Pepper "medley" toward the end like: Sgt. Pepper song (the full one) Getting Better (Paul and the Band did this in 2002 and a lot of years have gone by) Penny Lane (I know it wasn't on the album proper but it is right in that era) Lovely Rita (again Paul and the Band have recently done it) Day in the Life Now a medley like this would have brought the house down!! It is the 50th anniversary for God sake!! To do just 2 songs (one being the 1 minute reprise) just doesn't show imagination and does little to justify an album as I said that just recently after 50 years hit # 1 on the Billboard charts. A tremendous achievement but Paul does little to take advantage of it and he has the audience (mainly boomers) that would just eat it up. And by the way, he can't sing "I've Got a Feeling anymore. Just scratch it and play another Sgt. Pepper song. And "I Wanna Be Your Man" is barely a tertiary Beatle song. Who cares about the Mick and Keith story. The real story and real history is that Sgt. Pepper just hit #1 on the current Billboard chart. To play "I Wanna be Your Man" and not Penny Lane or Day in the life is totally ludicrous. *Solo Perspective Where do I begin! Ok you played Temporary Secretary and 4-5 Seconds over the last year but why continue it. Temporary Secretary isn't even a tertiary Solo song for Paul and Paul can't sing 4-5 Seconds even a little bit. Why I ask! This whole "relevant" thing that I guess is coming from his Marketing team is totally irrelevant to his US audience today. Give us a couple of meaningful songs like Put It There or My Brave Face which again just had a historical reissue (FITD). Both songs are very Paul and Beatleesque. Many people in the audience may not remember "Put it there" but so many boomers as parents themselves can relate so easy to it. Paul tries to be too "hip" too often instead of playing his type of songs. His audience could care less about those 2 "relevant" songs. The 2 New Songs...ok you have played them over the last couple of years so now is the time to change up. If he wants to stick with the "NEW" album, play "Alligator" which I hear goes down well in his rehearsals as well as "I Can Bet" or "Early Days". Again, there doesn't appear to be any drive to play different Solo songs. I loved the 2002, 2005 and 2010 shows because he brought out so many fresh new songs (both Beatle and Solo) but since that time he no longer is the performer he once was from a "Setlist" Perspective. I love the Guy but I wish someone really close to him would be real honest. He has to stop singing some of these songs that he just can't sing anymore. I don't care if it is a song like MIA that is a true signature song. And some of the other songs where he really struggles to sing are just not necessary. He needs to find a couple of more songs like "Love Me Do" "Hard Days Night" and "Ob La Di" where his band can help him and the crowd sings along. Sorry for the long post but I'm a little psyched up from reading your very hones comments which I love. I know you are a great fan like me. Yes, for the 1st timers Paul will still delight but I can't help think of what someone else said a while back...the setlist/show could be significantly better.
BJ- glad I could provide some comic relief! If I had been by myself, it would have been harder to enjoy, I know that. Much of my joy came from sharing the songs I've heard many times with my family who still had very fresh ears towards them. I totally agree. He could play anything sung by any Beatle from 1962-1965 and it will be sheer madness. As for "When I'm Sixty-Four", I must confess, you are totally right. I think it would've gone down better than "Mr. Kite". I'm still perplexed by the reasoning behind "I wanna Be your Man". It was cool for Desert Trip...leave it there. As for FITD, my aunt asked me what the logo meant at the merch booth (the album cover). I told her what it was and sdhe said she didn't know that one. Then we were in the car driving home with Beatles radio station, here comes "My Brave Face" and she sings every word of it! She loved it back in the 80's and totally forgot it was even Paul. He has more pull than he thinks! Anyway, Paul needs honesty. Maybe Billy Joel can help him out, he's basically dropped his entire concert two whole steps in pitch....and besides he does know, honesty is such a lonely word
________________________________________________ Wix, If Paul had done a small medley of Sgt. Pepper similar to what I suggested above, then I agree there would be no need for "When I'm 64". But do you remember when Paul was reading the sign about the guy just turning 64. Do you get me point? Why not be a little bit spontaneous. A little ab libbing of "When I'm 64" was handed to him on a silver platter. Just a little snippet and I know the crowd would have gone nuts and started to sing it. That is a big part of what is missing from a Macca show. And "64" came right out of the Sgt. Pepper era, a song that Paul wrote for his father and has become a "new" birthday classic for boomers. It just leaves me scratching my head! Your thoughts? As I said from strictly a Beatles perspective (mostly his crowd last night as you say) the Beatle portion of the setlist could be so much better.
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B J Conlee:
WixRocks!:
Okay, I've posted more details about the night in Tampa on the corresponding thread, but I thought a greater analysis of the set and a survey of the folks (at least in my section) at the concert, and that I attended with, would be better suited here! Tampa was my 13th concert, and my 4th time seeing the "One on One Tour". This was my aunt's 2nd time (she was at Night #2 in DC last year), and my uncle's first time ever seeing Paul. My aunt is a serious Beatlemaniac (as her sign which Paul ignored said) and she has grown an interest in his post-Beatle music since attending last summer. My uncle is a very casual Beatle fan. He is not a concert-goer...in fact, his last concert was Elvis Presley on what became his last tour. I'd say at least 90% of the crowd fell closest to casual Beatle fan that rarely attends concerts. A little perspective: "Love Me Do" got a bigger reaction than "Live and Let Die". So I'm going to categorize the setlist based purely on reception from the audience...three categories: 1. OH MY GOD BEATLE PAUL IS HERE!!! -A Hard Day's Night: Blew the f'ing roof off the place. -Can't Buy Me Love -We Can Work it Out -Love Me Do: It was a little frightening how big of a response this got. He could've encored with this puppy. They were eating it up. -And I Love Her: He shakes his buns and the old biddies just melt... -Blackbird -Lady Madonna: Rocked the house...yet my section stayed seated... -Eleanor Rigby: Many gave this a standing ovation, and rapidly sat back down... -Something: Also received an unusually grand response from the audience. -Ob La Di, Ob La Da: This got the oldy moldys back up and on their feet!!! -Back in the USSR -Let it Be -Live and Let Die: The entire section was seated when it began, after the first flame...all up! -Hey Jude -Yesterday: Except for the numbskull on his phone next to me... -Sgt. Pepper: Went over well, but an awkward transition... -Get Back -Closing Medley: What can I say, it's perfect. 2. An average rocking and/or respectful response: -Junior's Farm: People were really digging this, I think it was just still from the initial high of seeing Paul, based on their reaction to other post-Beatle songs. -Jet: They kept rockin' along...it's easy to get into the chorus of this even if you don't know it. -Let Me Roll It: Multiple people in my section already knew the Jimi Hendrix story was coming and began telling it before Paul could finish it. I'm guessing from GENYC DVD...he should probably take the stories out that he sells on disc. -I've Got a Feeling: This rocker didn't get its due credit. -1985: see above! -Maybe I'm Amazed: A woman behind me asked her friend "Is Paul still married to Linda?"...see my note on "My Valentine" below. -You Won't See Me: This arrangement kicks ass and it receive a pretty "meh" reaction. -Here Today: People stuck around to hear what Paul had to say about John but it always pisses me off when you can hear people talking during this and it is every time. -The Fool on The Hill -I Wanna Be Your Man: Sounds recognizable even if you don't know it...that is, when Paul sings it correctly. -Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite!: I'm convinced that most the folks in my section have never owned Sgt. Pepper. -Band on The Run: This doesn't work well after "Ob La Di" because the beginning of BOTR is a total downer after the fun-fest of its predecessor IF and ONLY IF, you don't know the song "Band on The Run" and think Paul is playing a slow song and decide to sit down like every crusty old fart in my section. -Hi, Hi, Hi: Where I sat, the folks were blindsided...a song we don't know, in the encore? And it's about DRUGS?! By the way...LOTS of fun smells in the arena tonight! 3. NO BEATLES = BEER & BATHROOM -Temporary Secretary: Nearly cleared my section. It was like the plague struck. As soon as he said "lesser known song" people were up. -My Valentine: Obviously, the women behind me didn't hear the dedication to Nancy in this because like so many others, she heard "new-ish song" and vacated the area. -In Spite of All The Danger: Apparently it goes both ways. Pre or Post Beatle, it doesn't matter. This one tanked in reception as did the forced sing-a-long reprise. -Queenie Eye: He said "latest album" and they were gone again...those rich old drunk weirdos with their busted bladders. -New: Before playing this, he did the bit about knowing which songs the crowd doesn't like because of phone lights. I don't think many folks heard it since foot traffic was at its peak for the evening. -Four Five Seconds: See above! So I conclude like so many others have: the majority of the fans simply do not give a rat's ass about the solo songs. There were SIX songs that didn't score with the crowd tonight and they STILL left the venue floating on air. So I see absolutely no reason why Paul, who acknowledged multiple times tonight that there is a group of folks that come year after year, can't switch around the songs that fall into these six slots more frequently for us repeat offenders because the majority of the crowd simply isn't listening anyway. Oh! And as for my family? My aunt absolutely loves the "New" album as well as "Temporary Secretary" and all the Wings stuff. She didn't like "In Spite..." or "45 Sec" because she thought there were so many better songs. Right on! My uncle enjoyed the whole package and couldn't even really comment on it this analytically. His favorite song was "Ob La Di, Ob La Da" and he did in fact go to the bathroom during "Queenie Eye" However, the intriguing part was when I asked him what song he wanted to hear that he didn't and he said "The one about the butter pie...Uncle Albert!" ...where the hell did that come from?!? Sometimes, we just never know.
__________________________________________________________ WixRocks, Thanks so much for the great summary. You were cracking me up with a lot of your comments. I have to say after reading your comments (here and on the Tampa thread) I'm glad I didn't spend the money to go to last night's concert. I still don't like the setlist in general plus there are certain songs that he just can't sing anymore. Like you, I'm a huge fan. It would be quite painful to hear Paul sing a great song like MIA. As he was struggling, I couldn't help be thinking how well he sang MIA in 2002 or 2005. As Yankeefan said, it would be like watching a Hall of Fame Baseball Player (e.g. Willie Mays) still trying to play when he is 42 years old and way over the hill. Paul really needs an "objective" Music Director (I love Wix but it should be someone not in the band) that is not afraid to tell him that he no longer can sing certain songs even it they are signature ones. Too bad one of his children did not take an active part in his Music career. It would take someone really close to him to be brutally honest because Paul (and I love the guy) seems to be quite stubborn. It was very interesting to hear your comments on "Love Me Do". The song itself wouldn't be on my Top 100 Paul songs (Beatles,Wings, Solo) but I'm not surprised at all about the reaction. I've said it in a few of my previous posts. It was a perfect addition a couple of years ago considering his age and current voice. Again, the reason for the very positive reaction was not at all a surprise to me. Itt is easy to sing and the crowd joins in and takes over. It smacks Beatlemania to the heavy Boomer, Beatle audience. Wix's harmonica is spot on by the way. As I have said, Paul needs more songs like this. Ob-La-Di continues to go down very well for the same reasons. I know your feeling about a song like" When I'm 64" not being an rock arena song but I still think last night's crowd (that you so ably described) would have gone nuts over this type of sing-along that everyone knows. Easy to sing and they would have just taken over. Another part of Paul's show that has totally disappeared is the "spontaneity" factor. I was watching the bit (On Periscope) where Paul was reading the signs from the audience. When he read the sign about the guy who was having his 64th birthday, Paul should have just turned around to Wix and motion to do a little When I'm 64 on the piano. The crowd would have gone CRAZY!! These are great professional musicians and Wix could have easily done it. Unfortunately, Paul isn't very spontaneous with things like that. He just does the same old stories whereas last night was a perfect opportunity to just ad lib "When I'm 64. Should I mention that "64" came from Sgt. Pepper. Even if I was a Beatle only Paul fan, I would have been very disappointed with this setlist. Only 2 songs from Sgt. Pepper when he mentions about the 50th anniversary coupled with the fact that it was just #1 on Billboard in America. I'll add to this later on! I saw a good bit of the concert on Periscope. Granted not like you saw it in person but I certainly got a good feeling for the show. Yes, Paul is one of the best performers in history and for the first timers I know they got their money's worth. But I still find the setlist to be bad from two perspectives...his current voice and the songs he has chosen to perform. Here's my take: Beatle Perspective *How do you play a tertiary song like "I Wanna Be Your Man" and skip Penny Lane, A Day in the Life or Getting Better. If I was Paul's music director I would have pushed him to do a Sgt. Pepper "medley" toward the end like: Sgt. Pepper song (the full one) Getting Better (Paul and the Band did this in 2002 and a lot of years have gone by) Penny Lane (I know it wasn't on the album proper but it is right in that era) Lovely Rita (again Paul and the Band have recently done it) Day in the Life Now a medley like this would have brought the house down!! It is the 50th anniversary for God sake!! To do just 2 songs (one being the 1 minute reprise) just doesn't show imagination and does little to justify an album as I said that just recently after 50 years hit # 1 on the Billboard charts. A tremendous achievement but Paul does little to take advantage of it and he has the audience (mainly boomers) that would just eat it up. And by the way, he can't sing "I've Got a Feeling anymore. Just scratch it and play another Sgt. Pepper song. And "I Wanna Be Your Man" is barely a tertiary Beatle song. Who cares about the Mick and Keith story. The real story and real history is that Sgt. Pepper just hit #1 on the current Billboard chart. To play "I Wanna be Your Man" and not Penny Lane or Day in the life is totally ludicrous. *Solo Perspective Where do I begin! Ok you played Temporary Secretary and 4-5 Seconds over the last year but why continue it. Temporary Secretary isn't even a tertiary Solo song for Paul and Paul can't sing 4-5 Seconds even a little bit. Why I ask! This whole "relevant" thing that I guess is coming from his Marketing team is totally irrelevant to his US audience today. Give us a couple of meaningful songs like Put It There or My Brave Face which again just had a historical reissue (FITD). Both songs are very Paul and Beatleesque. Many people in the audience may not remember "Put it there" but so many boomers as parents themselves can relate so easy to it. Paul tries to be too "hip" too often instead of playing his type of songs. His audience could care less about those 2 "relevant" songs. The 2 New Songs...ok you have played them over the last couple of years so now is the time to change up. If he wants to stick with the "NEW" album, play "Alligator" which I hear goes down well in his rehearsals as well as "I Can Bet" or "Early Days". Again, there doesn't appear to be any drive to play different Solo songs. I loved the 2002, 2005 and 2010 shows because he brought out so many fresh new songs (both Beatle and Solo) but since that time he no longer is the performer he once was from a "Setlist" Perspective. I love the Guy but I wish someone really close to him would be real honest. He has to stop singing some of these songs that he just can't sing anymore. I don't care if it is a song like MIA that is a true signature song. And some of the other songs where he really struggles to sing are just not necessary. He needs to find a couple of more songs like "Love Me Do" "Hard Days Night" and "Ob La Di" where his band can help him and the crowd sings along. Sorry for the long post but I'm a little psyched up from reading your very hones comments which I love. I know you are a great fan like me. Yes, for the 1st timers Paul will still delight but I can't help think of what someone else said a while back...the setlist/show could be significantly better.
FYI - sent you PM.
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listening to all of that^^^ something like this? A Hard Day's Night This One Can't Buy Me Love Junior's Farm Getting Better Let Me Roll It Sing The Changes My Valentine For No One Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five We Can Work It Out Love Me Do You Won't See Me Two of Us And I Love Her Blackbird Here Today Queenie Eye Your Mother Should Know (deserves to come back) Lady Madonna Something Eleanor Rigby Mrs Vandebilt Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da Penny Lane Birthday Back In The USSR Band on the Run Let It Be Live and Let Die Hey Jude Yesterday Hi, Hi, Hi Sgt Pepper's Reprise A Day in the Life Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight The End
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nobodytoldme:
Tweeting during the gig, going through the motions much.Brian is off stage for Blackbird, Here Today, and Eleanor Rigby. I'm sure after 15 years of hearing those songs that he doesn't mind looking at his phone while he's waiting in the wing.
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FlowersOnTheRun....PERFECTION. That would be a killer set top to bottom. Enoug hsticking around for the first-timers and enough of interest from the BEatle and Wings and post-band eras to appease the repeat offenders. The only thing I might switch would be "Sing The Changes". I'd rather see "Coming Up" or another big classic that has been neglected go there.
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BJ- that would've been the perfect impromptu moment however, I don't think Paul goes for that anymore. You're right on though, it was a missed opportunity...and it's actually not the first time I've seen someone say that on a sign, it would be easier for the band to keep that "sticking out of their back pocket"
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oobu24:
Great reviews WixRocks! I thoroughly enjoyed them.
Thanks Oobu!
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WixRocks!:
BJ- that would've been the perfect impromptu moment however, I don't think Paul goes for that anymore. You're right on though, it was a missed opportunity...and it's actually not the first time I've seen someone say that on a sign, it would be easier for the band to keep that "sticking out of their back pocket"
_________________________________________________________ Your so right that it is not a gene that Paul seems to possess. You just wonder if the "I just turned 64" sign has appeared before that someone else (in his band or tour team) wouldn't suggest having the song ready to go in 2017 with the Sgt. Pepper Anniversary. It kinds of blows my mind. Judging by the reaction to "Love Me Do" and "Ob La Di", I would think that "When I'm 64" would go over very well this US leg and it would save his voice. I am still wondering how his voice is going to be in September if he stays with songs like MIA, 4-5 Seconds and I've Got A Feeling.
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FlowersOnTheRun:
listening to all of that^^^ something like this? A Hard Day's Night This One Can't Buy Me Love Junior's Farm Getting Better Let Me Roll It Sing The Changes My Valentine For No One Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five We Can Work It Out Love Me Do You Won't See Me Two of Us And I Love Her Blackbird Here Today Queenie Eye Your Mother Should Know (deserves to come back) Lady Madonna Something Eleanor Rigby Mrs Vandebilt Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da Penny Lane Birthday Back In The USSR Band on the Run Let It Be Live and Let Die Hey Jude Yesterday Hi, Hi, Hi Sgt Pepper's Reprise A Day in the Life Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight The End
__________________________________________________ FlowersOnTheRun, I love your setlist and it is realistic. Your additions I especially like are: This One - that alone would probably had me there in Tampa Getting Better Sing the Changes For No One Two of Us Your Mother Should Know Mrs. Vanderbilt Penny Lane - again would have had me there in Tampa *Day in the Life - while I suggested a medley of Sgt. Pepper, just doing "A Day in the Life" would have worked so much better after the "reprise" compared to what he did As I said, your list would have been a real refreshment. Paul/Band have done all the songs in the past but before the Out There tour. For the serious fans, it would have offered so much ore than what he is doing. It's a shame that a huge, huge fan like me chose to stay home in Tampa. I could afford it but I don't like the setlist in general. Songs like Temporary Secretary, 4-5 Seconds, I Wanna Be Your Man, New (the song) just don't excite me even a little bit. The additions you mention are all better than what he is doing. If I was going to "perfect" your list for me I would also probably scratch My Valentine (I know why he includes it but it has had its run), Let Me Roll it (just tired of it and the Hendrix story), Birthday (just ok song), and Hi Hi Hi which in my opinion he has played enough. But as I said, your list exactly the way it is, and I'm there in Tampa. Yankee fan and I weren't asking for the moon but what we got was just inferior in my opinion to what his show could be. Again, I'm a serious fan so the setlist is important. By the way, I noticed you also scratched MIA and I've Got a Feeling. Good suggestions as I love both songs but he can't sing them with his 2017 voice. If he keeps playing them, you wonder what his voice will be like in September.
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B J Conlee:
FlowersOnTheRun:
listening to all of that^^^ something like this? A Hard Day's Night This One Can't Buy Me Love Junior's Farm Getting Better Let Me Roll It Sing The Changes My Valentine For No One Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five We Can Work It Out Love Me Do You Won't See Me Two of Us And I Love Her Blackbird Here Today Queenie Eye Your Mother Should Know (deserves to come back) Lady Madonna Something Eleanor Rigby Mrs Vandebilt Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da Penny Lane Birthday Back In The USSR Band on the Run Let It Be Live and Let Die Hey Jude Yesterday Hi, Hi, Hi Sgt Pepper's Reprise A Day in the Life Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight The End
__________________________________________________ FlowersOnTheRun, I love your setlist and it is realistic. Your additions I especially like are: This One - that alone would probably had me there in Tampa Getting Better Sing the Changes For No One Two of Us Your Mother Should Know Mrs. Vanderbilt Penny Lane - again would have had me there in Tampa *Day in the Life - while I suggested a medley of Sgt. Pepper, just doing "A Day in the Life" would have worked so much better after the "reprise" compared to what he did As I said, your list would have been a real refreshment. Paul/Band have done all the songs in the past but before the Out There tour. For the serious fans, it would have offered so much ore than what he is doing. It's a shame that a huge, huge fan like me chose to stay home in Tampa. I could afford it but I don't like the setlist in general. Songs like Temporary Secretary, 4-5 Seconds, I Wanna Be Your Man, New (the song) just don't excite me even a little bit. The additions you mention are all better than what he is doing. If I was going to "perfect" your list for me I would also probably scratch My Valentine (I know why he includes it but it has had its run), Let Me Roll it (just tired of it and the Hendrix story), Birthday (just ok song), and Hi Hi Hi which in my opinion he has played enough. But as I said, your list exactly the way it is, and I'm there in Tampa. Yankee fan and I weren't asking for the moon but what we got was just inferior in my opinion to what his show could be. Again, I'm a serious fan so the setlist is important. By the way, I noticed you also scratched MIA and I've Got a Feeling. Good suggestions as I love both songs but he can't sing them with his 2017 voice. If he keeps playing them, you wonder what his voice will be like in September.
I thought about all of that. Birthday seems like a song he enjoys, My Valentine and Let Me Roll It aren't going anywhere, like it or not. Hi, Hi, Hi was an amazing addition 4 years ago, but indeed has started to wear out it's welcome. Still don't see it being replaced fully time. I like Queenie Eye and New both, but honestly it's a one or the other type thing. New gets scratched at festivals and such, so it seems it'd be the first to go. All the other additions are relatively fresh, Sing The Changes, Vanderbilt, Your Mother Should Know are singable and can get crowd participation. For No One is a good mellow song similar to Eleanor Rigby. Gives crowd and band a break from the action, easy to sing. Two of Us is another song that the crowd would love. Let's face it, This One or any Flowers song could only ever work at the #2 slot if he's looking for crowd reaction. Getting Better in 5th would be far more exciting than TS, which was a fun addition in 2015 but should've been dropped by 2016. Penny Lane would also work in that #5 slot. I'd love to get a full Day in the Life. Even though it's a lot of John, so is AHDN which is a killer song for him to do regardless. ADITL also is perhaps the most Lennon/McCartney song of Lennon/McCartney songs. I like this list because it's quite reasonable though very unlikely. It just shows how little work would be required to refresh the setlist. Out of those additions, only 3 haven't been done in the last 5 years and out of those one would be likely just Paul and Wix (For No One). It's fun to ponder
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B J Conlee:
WixRocks!:
BJ- that would've been the perfect impromptu moment however, I don't think Paul goes for that anymore. You're right on though, it was a missed opportunity...and it's actually not the first time I've seen someone say that on a sign, it would be easier for the band to keep that "sticking out of their back pocket"
_________________________________________________________ Your so right that it is not a gene that Paul seems to possess. You just wonder if the "I just turned 64" sign has appeared before that someone else (in his band or tour team) wouldn't suggest having the song ready to go in 2017 with the Sgt. Pepper Anniversary. It kinds of blows my mind. Judging by the reaction to "Love Me Do" and "Ob La Di", I would think that "When I'm 64" would go over very well this US leg and it would save his voice. I am still wondering how his voice is going to be in September if he stays with songs like MIA, 4-5 Seconds and I've Got A Feeling.
If "Maybe I'm Amazed" sounds like it did last night, the New York press will not be kind.
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B J Conlee:
BigBunny:
I'm in Perth, Australia and I'll be seeing/hearing Paul for the first time live in December I'm hoping Helter Skelter & I'm Down will be in the setlist. looks like he isn't playing those songs right now anything from Revolver & The White Album I'd love to hear live. I also love Early Days & Sing The Changes.
__________________________________________________ Good suggestions Big Bunny. Unfortunately, Paul at 75 can't sing Helter Skelter or I'm Down anymore. Maybe by the time you see him in December he might change the setlist to include a couple from Revolver. He does do Blackbird and Back in the USSR from the White album. I love Early Days and Sing the Changes. Hope for you he adds them for Australia. Another bonus is that you might get a song or two from a his new upcoming album that might be released this October.
if only he didn't take 24 years to come back to Australia, I would get to hear it live. Helter Skelter is one heavy mother, I love that song. how about Rocky Raccoon? love that one too
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BigBunny:
B J Conlee:
BigBunny:
I'm in Perth, Australia and I'll be seeing/hearing Paul for the first time live in December I'm hoping Helter Skelter & I'm Down will be in the setlist. looks like he isn't playing those songs right now anything from Revolver & The White Album I'd love to hear live. I also love Early Days & Sing The Changes.
__________________________________________________ Good suggestions Big Bunny. Unfortunately, Paul at 75 can't sing Helter Skelter or I'm Down anymore. Maybe by the time you see him in December he might change the setlist to include a couple from Revolver. He does do Blackbird and Back in the USSR from the White album. I love Early Days and Sing the Changes. Hope for you he adds them for Australia. Another bonus is that you might get a song or two from a his new upcoming album that might be released this October.
if only he didn't take 24 years to come back to Australia, I would get to hear it live. Helter Skelter is one heavy mother, I love that song. how about Rocky Raccoon? love that one too
He's never sang "Rocky Raccoon" live, but we've certainly had some unusual additions from that category in the past few years. I think "Rocky Raccoon" has just as good a chance as "Temporary Secretary" did two years ago...heck, I think it has just as good a chance as "Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite!" did nearly FIVE years ago and that became a staple!
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rinse the raindrops to much to ask???