THE 'FRESHEN UP' TOUR 2018
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at this rate, while i'd still go see paul if he played an arena/stadium near me again, i would really truly get excited about seeing him live again if he did a solo acoustic performance, ala neil young or bruce springsteen.
don't think it'd ever happen at this rate. but a solo acoustic show/tour from paul would've been amazing.
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thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
I think it is obvious he loves to perform. Personally, I would much rather see an acoustic show like you mentioned even if it was only for an hour. Of course, it goes without saying I would like to see a few solo songs he has never done live thrown into the shortened setlist but that is just me being picky - lol.
Given the amount of songs Paul has to choose from,he could at least put together a show that doesn't repeat any songs that he's performed live over the last 10 years for example. The problem though is that the set that is put together is aimed at the audience member who is attending for the first time. And they would be gutted if he didn't do Yesterday or Live And Let Die or whatever. Seeing Paul in concert on a regular basis unfortunately means hearing (and seeing) a lot of repeats.
I have said many times I understand he has to do the 25 Beatles/Wings hits for his target audience which is the first timers. My point once again, it is the remaining 10 songs that he really should have shaken up each tour. This current tour I fully expect him to do 3-4 songs from Egypt Station and we all know 2 of them will be the singles he has already released. That would still give him 6 songs to really freshen it up and do songs never done live before from his solo years or rarely done like "That Was Me" ( Paris). If he did that, I would gladly go again knowing I would get around 40 minutes of new music never performed live by him.
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If he follows the same general setlist patterns from the last 4-5 years, here is what I predict:
*He will add the brand new 3-4 "Egypt Station" songs to his setlist (which is a given) and knock out the previous "New" album songs
* To "quasi" adhere to the new tour name (the Freshen Up Tour) he will recycle/add several Beatle (and maybe a couple of Wings' hits) that he has done in the past but not over the last 5 years. Examples might be Penny Lane, Lovely Rita, For No One, Two of Us, My Love etc.
Those minimal type changes would not get me to shell out that kind of money even if he was appearing close to my location. He certainly has a dozen of so "not mandatory" songs he should change but I don't see it. Like always I will go to Youtube to hear/watch the new songs but I have little interest in even watching the songs that he has continually done over 30 years.
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Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
If you are short you will see nothing but the larger screens...that goes even if you have a seat on the floor. Also, unless you have a very large bladder...well, it goes without saying.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
I think it is obvious he loves to perform. Personally, I would much rather see an acoustic show like you mentioned even if it was only for an hour. Of course, it goes without saying I would like to see a few solo songs he has never done live thrown into the shortened setlist but that is just me being picky - lol.
Given the amount of songs Paul has to choose from,he could at least put together a show that doesn't repeat any songs that he's performed live over the last 10 years for example. The problem though is that the set that is put together is aimed at the audience member who is attending for the first time. And they would be gutted if he didn't do Yesterday or Live And Let Die or whatever. Seeing Paul in concert on a regular basis unfortunately means hearing (and seeing) a lot of repeats.
I have said many times I understand he has to do the 25 Beatles/Wings hits for his target audience which is the first timers. My point once again, it is the remaining 10 songs that he really should have shaken up each tour. This current tour I fully expect him to do 3-4 songs from Egypt Station and we all know 2 of them will be the singles he has already released. That would still give him 6 songs to really freshen it up and do songs never done live before from his solo years or rarely done like "That Was Me" ( Paris). If he did that, I would gladly go again knowing I would get around 40 minutes of new music never performed live by him.
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If he follows the same general setlist patterns from the last 4-5 years, here is what I predict:
*He will add the brand new 3-4 "Egypt Station" songs to his setlist (which is a given) and knock out the previous "New" album songs
* To "quasi" adhere to the new tour name (the Freshen Up Tour) he will recycle/add several Beatle (and maybe a couple of Wings' hits) that he has done in the past but not over the last 5 years. Examples might be Penny Lane, Lovely Rita, For No One, Two of Us, My Love etc.
Those minimal type changes would not get me to shell out that kind of money even if he was appearing close to my location. He certainly has a dozen of so "not mandatory" songs he should change but I don't see it. Like always I will go to Youtube to hear/watch the new songs but I have little interest in even watching the songs that he has continually done over 30 years.
You nailed it, will be shocked it it is anything different than you just posted. I will add that he might tinker a litte bit and change the opening song to another Beatle song. I will read the setlist post of the first couple of concerts just to see the changes.
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How about this for some concert speculation?
pre show, we see the same style Mccartney life Montage video, modified, updated.....
pre entrance they play, ”Station 1” from Egypt station and the curtain opens to Come On To Me....
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Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
Even if it is GA with EARLY ENTRANCE?
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chukhin wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
Even if it is GA with EARLY ENTRANCE?
I did a VIP with early entrance standing once (albeit not a stadium show, it was the 1000 capacity liverpool 2010 show), and people do still queue from early but only so they can be the very front ahead of the other people who also paid for early admission standing VIP. With VIP early entrance if you are happy being 5th row behind the rest of the early entrance people you wouldn't need to queue early, just get there an hour before you were told to be allowed in. Everything others say about not being able to leave to go to the toilet is still valid. But GA with early VIP admission is not bad re the queue. Though some people charged past us on the way in nearly knocking people over in their desire to be front row middle.. and it is hard to stay stood for the 3 hours before Paul even comes on. But if you can cope with that it's a great way of getting a good "seat" without the seat! A good way of seeing a Paul concert very close to him.
Hope that helps.
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Eeee Cor Blimey wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
Even if it is GA with EARLY ENTRANCE?
I did a VIP with early entrance standing once (albeit not a stadium show, it was the 1000 capacity liverpool 2010 show), and people do still queue from early but only so they can be the very front ahead of the other people who also paid for early admission standing VIP. With VIP early entrance if you are happy being 5th row behind the rest of the early entrance people you wouldn't need to queue early, just get there an hour before you were told to be allowed in. Everything others say about not being able to leave to go to the toilet is still valid. But GA with early VIP admission is not bad re the queue. Though some people charged past us on the way in nearly knocking people over in their desire to be front row middle.. and it is hard to stay stood for the 3 hours before Paul even comes on. But if you can cope with that it's a great way of getting a good "seat" without the seat! A good way of seeing a Paul concert very close to him.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, it helped me. Very cool reply! Great!
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chukhin wrote:
Eeee Cor Blimey wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
Even if it is GA with EARLY ENTRANCE?
I did a VIP with early entrance standing once (albeit not a stadium show, it was the 1000 capacity liverpool 2010 show), and people do still queue from early but only so they can be the very front ahead of the other people who also paid for early admission standing VIP. With VIP early entrance if you are happy being 5th row behind the rest of the early entrance people you wouldn't need to queue early, just get there an hour before you were told to be allowed in. Everything others say about not being able to leave to go to the toilet is still valid. But GA with early VIP admission is not bad re the queue. Though some people charged past us on the way in nearly knocking people over in their desire to be front row middle.. and it is hard to stay stood for the 3 hours before Paul even comes on. But if you can cope with that it's a great way of getting a good "seat" without the seat! A good way of seeing a Paul concert very close to him.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, it helped me. Very cool reply! Great!
No problem
Enjoy the concert!
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Eeee Cor Blimey wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Eeee Cor Blimey wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
chukhin wrote:
Hello! Please, help me to choose if you can!
What negative sides of General Admission even with Early Entrance compared with seating places?
you have to stand for several hours, close together with other people. that's the main one.
And you have to first get there super early to get a decent spot up close in the crowd (once they let you in and the stampede begins!) For this and the above reason, I will NEVER do a General Admission concert!
Even if it is GA with EARLY ENTRANCE?
I did a VIP with early entrance standing once (albeit not a stadium show, it was the 1000 capacity liverpool 2010 show), and people do still queue from early but only so they can be the very front ahead of the other people who also paid for early admission standing VIP. With VIP early entrance if you are happy being 5th row behind the rest of the early entrance people you wouldn't need to queue early, just get there an hour before you were told to be allowed in. Everything others say about not being able to leave to go to the toilet is still valid. But GA with early VIP admission is not bad re the queue. Though some people charged past us on the way in nearly knocking people over in their desire to be front row middle.. and it is hard to stay stood for the 3 hours before Paul even comes on. But if you can cope with that it's a great way of getting a good "seat" without the seat! A good way of seeing a Paul concert very close to him.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, it helped me. Very cool reply! Great!
No problem
Enjoy the concert!
Thanks! Finally, I choosed to go only to Vienna, with seat place at the right parter tribune, almost the centre of arena
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Steve wrote:
How about this for some concert speculation?
pre show, we see the same style Mccartney life Montage video, modified, updated.....
pre entrance they play, ”Station 1” from Egypt station and the curtain opens to Come On To Me....
I would fall down from shock and would love it. He has not opened concert with new song from current album since 1989/90 tour when he opened with "Figure Of Eight" from "Flowers In The Dirt".
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Just below Paul's announcement on Twitter of a second date in Vienna, I see many requests for second dates in the UK. Perhaps he can add one in Liverpool (December 11) and/or one in London (December 17)?
The demand for tickets seems to be high in the UK, perhaps he should have chosen bigger venues? I don't mean stadiums (due to the cold weather), but larger indoors venues in those cities, if they exist. Do they?
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5th-beatle wrote:
Just below Paul's announcement on Twitter of a second date in Vienna, I see many requests for second dates in the UK. Perhaps he can add one in Liverpool (December 11) and/or one in London (December 17)?
The demand for tickets seems to be high in the UK, perhaps he should have chosen bigger venues? I don't mean stadiums (due to the cold weather), but larger indoors venues in those cities, if they exist. Do they?
No. The O2 is London’s largest indoor venue. For the size and wealth of the country, the U.K. is poorly served with indoor arenas. There’s nothing much bigger than 15-16,000 in capacity. The Liverpool Echo Arena is under 10,000.
Ticket demand is artificially inflated by parasites like a Viagogo hoovering up all the tickets. I was at O2 show 2 in 2015 and it was not sold out with empty seats clearly visible and tickets plentiful from the primary seller (AXS). Some tickets were quietly downgraded in price Band to sell them.
I live 80 miles West of London and will very likely turn up on the day, ticketless. The ticket tout sites will panic and drop their prices as the clock runs down to showtime, often below face value. Happens every time, with every artist.
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5th-beatle wrote:
Just below Paul's announcement on Twitter of a second date in Vienna, I see many requests for second dates in the UK. Perhaps he can add one in Liverpool (December 11) and/or one in London (December 17)?
The demand for tickets seems to be high in the UK, perhaps he should have chosen bigger venues? I don't mean stadiums (due to the cold weather), but larger indoors venues in those cities, if they exist. Do they?
No, as grzegorz67 has already said - the O2 is Britains biggest indoor arena (holds nearly 20,000 i think?), Manchester arena is 2nd largest at 15 to 18,000. I was thinking he'd pay there, esp after he did the video after the bombing giving support (and he played there in 2011 and 2003), but he must feel this time it's too close to Liverpool and would rather play to half the people but with the publicity of it being Liverpool (no offense to Liverpool! And he played both Liverpool and Manchester in 2011)
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Do you folks think fans would have better chances at getting tickets if he waited until next summer so that he could play at stadiums or would those 30,000+ tickets per venue be snapped up by bots and resold at obscene prices the same way it's happening now?
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grzegorz67 wrote:
5th-beatle wrote:
Just below Paul's announcement on Twitter of a second date in Vienna, I see many requests for second dates in the UK. Perhaps he can add one in Liverpool (December 11) and/or one in London (December 17)?
The demand for tickets seems to be high in the UK, perhaps he should have chosen bigger venues? I don't mean stadiums (due to the cold weather), but larger indoors venues in those cities, if they exist. Do they?
No. The O2 is London’s largest indoor venue. For the size and wealth of the country, the U.K. is poorly served with indoor arenas. There’s nothing much bigger than 15-16,000 in capacity. The Liverpool Echo Arena is under 10,000.
Ticket demand is artificially inflated by parasites like a Viagogo hoovering up all the tickets. I was at O2 show 2 in 2015 and it was not sold out with empty seats clearly visible and tickets plentiful from the primary seller (AXS). Some tickets were quietly downgraded in price Band to sell them.
I live 80 miles West of London and will very likely turn up on the day, ticketless. The ticket tout sites will panic and drop their prices as the clock runs down to showtime, often below face value. Happens every time, with every artist.
Thanks for being the voice of reason, I keep on telling people this, but you did it for me here. Liverpool 2015 same story, as I said a few times before, couldn't get rid of my spare floor tickets for even half of the price. It's a game I'm no longer participating in and am not maintaining, and I will see closer to the date what's available for which price.
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Hoping The "Freshen Up" tour makes it to a nearby NY venue!
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Just saw the setlist from the secret show in London yesterday. Minus a few songs from Egypt Station, it's not Freshened Up at all, not surprised by that at all
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Gordy JS wrote:
Just saw the setlist from the secret show in London yesterday. Minus a few songs from Egypt Station, it's not Freshened Up at all, not surprised by that at all
Not part of the tour. But we know what to expect in September: the well-worn tributes, the stupid extra stage to justify more space between the crowd and the performer, the exact same stories word for word, the same warhorses in the same sequencing during the end. And then 2 Beatles songs he finally dropped ('Drive My Car', 'Got To Get You Into My Life', etc.) back in, 2 Beatles songs he performed in previous recent tours back in, 2 new Beatles additions (scraping the barrel) and then the 2/3 'New' songs out for 2/3 songs from the new album, but of course not the best material from said album.
The reason I'm still going is simple: those 3-4 additions I didn't hear yet, and the fact Paul McCarntey is still here to perform. But to be stimulated by a musical performance, I see 100 other bands every year.