Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
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Honestly i doubt wether Paul is even aware of the nonsense of today,Ticketmaster are the ticket selling force in the world,they offer schemes such as Verfied fan and his people go along with it,as its seen to be doing something against the touts,when in realilty all its done is make it harder for fans such as post here for instance (not that that should guarantee a ticket alone of course),and given people who maybe have seen artists such as Paul a better than even chance than perhaps is fair,throw in a few buzzwords and its middle management mana from heaven.
No easy answer but it has been terrible for many people today sad to say.
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He’d be better playing Hampden Park , Wembley ,Anfield etc in the summer . Problem largely solved .
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rhinehart@sky.com wrote:
Once again we find that tickets for the shows sell out in seconds (often before the published launch time) pre-sale on various websites (here and Amex) are nowhere to be seen, and suddenly they turn up at inflated prices on external sites.
Surely a company such as MPC can put together the muscle to make sure that the fans are not overlooked (perhaps they could have emailed fans who were near venues (100 miles or so and offered them first shout),. Perhaps it could have been organised through this site and not ticketmaster. Somebody with a brain far bigger than mine should have the answer.
I'm lucky that I got a ticket (also saw him in London last time) but what a struggle for the real fans.
You wrote MPS and then MPC! Do you mean MPL?
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This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
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WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
“It’s a sad sad situation. And it’s getting more and more absurd.”
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WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
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WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
By “they” are you referring to Paul, Paul’s people, Ticketmaster or all of the above?
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Nancy R wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
By “they” are you referring to Paul, Paul’s people, Ticketmaster or all of the above?
All of the above.
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Nancy R wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
By “they” are you referring to Paul, Paul’s people, Ticketmaster or all of the above?
All of them,
paul has his money and will play,Paul’s people have their slice and are happy and ticketmaster roll on allowing it to carry on.
Dont think Paul is that bothered at this point,as most artists are it’s down to money and they have their price of the pie and can retire to the beach till gig
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Block 111 (which is a side block) selling at an astronomical £471 plus fees this morning on Ticketmaster if anyone is interested
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mamunia_oh wrote:
Block 111 (which is a side block) selling at an astronomical £471 plus fees this morning on Ticketmaster if anyone is interested
I don't buy from touts.
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Hi Peter, it's been an appalling way of doing the sales this time i agree. I really hope you manage to get something normal price and near the aisle for you
Wont be the same at a Paul show without seeing you!! Been a terrible year, my mother in law died in April, and our 21 month old son has leg problems amongst others and had to have a brain MRI in May to rule out a birth injury - only found out recently that result was normal which is great!!!! But everything is still hard, and the London show is my birthday so my sister forked out for the package as a pick me up. If we knew we could've got normal tickets we would have done with that, as the debt is terrible.. as it is for most people
Sorry for waffling on! Hope you are doing ok considering - take care.
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WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
You are right, they are getting their money and that is all that matters. They know there is a market out there that will let them charge anything they want and will sell out. Does anybody really think the McCartney team cares about the fans on this board getting to see him in concert? I truly understand an artist wanting to make money but in his case he is a billonaire and can afford to make the prices more reasonable and still make a nice profit. In addition, think of the money he makes in merchandising when you are selling a t-shirt for $35-$50. Also, it seems to me he makes a bit of money (lol) on his sound check package and people are not even very close to the stage.
Once again, I will give major credit to JK Rowlings. She took real control of her show and has a system where real fans are going and at affordable price for theater. I believe she knows with the prices she charges she will still make quite a bit of money and that is not even including the amount of merchandise that is sold for the shows. She has proven it can be done, I wish others would follow her lead.
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rhinehart@sky.com wrote:
Once again we find that tickets for the shows sell out in seconds (often before the published launch time) pre-sale on various websites (here and Amex) are nowhere to be seen, and suddenly they turn up at inflated prices on external sites.
Surely a company such as MPC can put together the muscle to make sure that the fans are not overlooked (perhaps they could have emailed fans who were near venues (100 miles or so and offered them first shout),. Perhaps it could have been organised through this site and not ticketmaster. Somebody with a brain far bigger than mine should have the answer.
I'm lucky that I got a ticket (also saw him in London last time) but what a struggle for the real fans.
There was no ripoff. People need to cool out, and learn how to use a computer properly, and read instructions properly. I got through no problem for Canada, and Liverpool.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
You are right, they are getting their money and that is all that matters. They know there is a market out there that will let them charge anything they want and will sell out. Does anybody really think the McCartney team cares about the fans on this board getting to see him in concert? I truly understand an artist wanting to make money but in his case he is a billonaire and can afford to make the prices more reasonable and still make a nice profit. In addition, think of the money he makes in merchandising when you are selling a t-shirt for $35-$50. Also, it seems to me he makes a bit of money (lol) on his sound check package and people are not even very close to the stage.
Once again, I will give major credit to JK Rowlings. She took real control of her show and has a system where real fans are going and at affordable price for theater. I believe she knows with the prices she charges she will still make quite a bit of money and that is not even including the amount of merchandise that is sold for the shows. She has proven it can be done, I wish others would follow her lead.
The man is pushing 80 years old. I highly doubt he stays up at night worrying about how tickets are sold. He has a fee, and promoters charge a price they need to, to cover his fee and make money. Paul gets his $$$ regardless of 1 ticket being sold, or all tickets sold.
This ridiculous whining is so over the top and ridiculous by the "adults" here. Tickets were readily available for all to purchase, so as long as you can use a computer properly, and read basic instructions. Embarrassing to compare ticket sales to his show to Harry Potter LOL.
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
You are right, they are getting their money and that is all that matters. They know there is a market out there that will let them charge anything they want and will sell out. Does anybody really think the McCartney team cares about the fans on this board getting to see him in concert? I truly understand an artist wanting to make money but in his case he is a billonaire and can afford to make the prices more reasonable and still make a nice profit. In addition, think of the money he makes in merchandising when you are selling a t-shirt for $35-$50. Also, it seems to me he makes a bit of money (lol) on his sound check package and people are not even very close to the stage.
Once again, I will give major credit to JK Rowlings. She took real control of her show and has a system where real fans are going and at affordable price for theater. I believe she knows with the prices she charges she will still make quite a bit of money and that is not even including the amount of merchandise that is sold for the shows. She has proven it can be done, I wish others would follow her lead.
The man is pushing 80 years old. I highly doubt he stays up at night worrying about how tickets are sold. He has a fee, and promoters charge a price they need to, to cover his fee and make money. Paul gets his $$$ regardless of 1 ticket being sold, or all tickets sold.
This ridiculous whining is so over the top and ridiculous by the "adults" here. Tickets were readily available for all to purchase, so as long as you can use a computer properly, and read basic instructions. Embarrassing to compare ticket sales to his show to Harry Potter LOL.
Why is it embarassing? It shows how somebody is attempting to stop scalpers and crazy 2nd market prices for a ticket. So you are basically calling people idiots and saying they don't know how to use a computer and read basic instructions - wow !!!
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
You are right, they are getting their money and that is all that matters. They know there is a market out there that will let them charge anything they want and will sell out. Does anybody really think the McCartney team cares about the fans on this board getting to see him in concert? I truly understand an artist wanting to make money but in his case he is a billonaire and can afford to make the prices more reasonable and still make a nice profit. In addition, think of the money he makes in merchandising when you are selling a t-shirt for $35-$50. Also, it seems to me he makes a bit of money (lol) on his sound check package and people are not even very close to the stage.
Once again, I will give major credit to JK Rowlings. She took real control of her show and has a system where real fans are going and at affordable price for theater. I believe she knows with the prices she charges she will still make quite a bit of money and that is not even including the amount of merchandise that is sold for the shows. She has proven it can be done, I wish others would follow her lead.
The man is pushing 80 years old. I highly doubt he stays up at night worrying about how tickets are sold. He has a fee, and promoters charge a price they need to, to cover his fee and make money. Paul gets his $$$ regardless of 1 ticket being sold, or all tickets sold.
This ridiculous whining is so over the top and ridiculous by the "adults" here. Tickets were readily available for all to purchase, so as long as you can use a computer properly, and read basic instructions. Embarrassing to compare ticket sales to his show to Harry Potter LOL.
Of course Paul doesn't lose any sleep over any of this but a lot of his fans do. People couldn't even get a verification number for some of the sales. Fans that have followed him for years! What the heck? I would like him to know about that. I don't know what show you were trying for or if you were even trying but tickets were not readily available at some venues.
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rhinehart@sky.com wrote:
Once again we find that tickets for the shows sell out in seconds (often before the published launch time) pre-sale on various websites (here and Amex) are nowhere to be seen, and suddenly they turn up at inflated prices on external sites.
Surely a company such as MPC can put together the muscle to make sure that the fans are not overlooked (perhaps they could have emailed fans who were near venues (100 miles or so and offered them first shout),. Perhaps it could have been organised through this site and not ticketmaster. Somebody with a brain far bigger than mine should have the answer.
I'm lucky that I got a ticket (also saw him in London last time) but what a struggle for the real fans.
Actually MPL has little to do with ticket sales. They use Ticketmaster , the largest and most organized seller of tickets in the world. Bruce Springsteen, another somewhat large act has been fighting scalpers for years and one of the first to use Verified Fan Sales. While the premise is good, people fail to take in effect just how strong the will is by wrong doers to defeat the controls you try to instill.
as a police officer of 25 years, I saw criminals find new ways to break the law in very creative ways. But back to ticket sales, there will always be secondary market tickets. Not only do you have organized Scalpers doing it, you have many regular folks doing it now to make some extra money. They buy tickets that they have no intention on going to with the express intention on selling. With EBay, StubHub, and even the resale tickets on the Ticketmaster site as well and others have made it easy for anyone to participate in these practices.
the time it would take to check ID's to tickets at the show would make things impossible.
The problem itself has been going on for many years and will continue to do so for many years to come. As more controls are attempted, new ways will be employed on getting around them.
Verified Fan Sales was supposed to be this bright, new defense against it and we all see how that worked out!!
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Acts way bigger than McCartney succesfully completely cut out touting for their shows, worldwide:
Adele, an record-breaking worldwide tour, all tickets on name: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/team-adele-wage-war-on-ticket-touts-and-so-far-its-working/
Ed Sheeran, most popular pop act in the world at the moment, stadium status, all tickets on name, plus cancelled tickets being sold for higher prices after all: http://www.edsheeran.com/news/got-question-about-eds-european-tour-2018-38036 + http://www.businessinsider.com/ed-sheeran-cancelled-10000-gig-tickets-being-resold-at-higher-prices-2017-7
Arctic Monkeys, the most significant and best rock act in the last 20 years and biggest UK rock act, selling out multiple arena and stadium dates in seconds, all tickets on name. And not just for vain show, their manager is active in calling for a shutdown of secondary market sites: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/music/music-news/arctic-monkeys-boss-calls-government-12410256
Chance The Rapper, one of the most prominent rappers of the last few years, bought back secondary market tickets and sold them face value: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7503657/chance-rapper-fights-ticket-scalpers-festival
Foo Fighters, tickets on name for big shows, stupid people who after all clear warnings still gambled on it being turned away: http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/foo-fighters-apologise-to-fans-turned-away-from-o2-show/
The majority of these acts use Twickets as official non-profit reselling partner. The "it's impossible to enforce" or "we are not the law" or "we outsource ticket sales and it's out of our hands" argument doesn't count any more in 2018.
Mentioned acts play way bigger venues than McCartney, and manage to succesfully completely cut out touting. These acts truly care about the fans. McCartney's team choses not to care.