“Home Tonight”/“In A Hurry” out Nov. 22nd
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Shiner Bailey wrote:
I've been listening to both songs over the last 24 hours and of the two I much prefer 'In A Hurry'. Although there is far too much going on in the arrangements which makes the song sound cluttered, I do like the opening verses and that the later,very catchy, "Much too late to celebrate" vocals. 'In A Hurry' is certainly for em the most interesting of the two songs.
'Home Tonight' still does nothing for me. It still reminds of a George Harrison type song (I can hear George singing this one in my imagination) but its not difficult to see why it wasn't considered for the ES album.
I can't agree with much...if any.. of your observations. Both songs are very catchy, melodic Beatlesque songs with a bit more modern production, as would be expected. I prefer both of them equally and can't understand why he didn't include them on ES. Both are vastly superior to, say, Caesar Rock and Back In Brazil. His vocals on each are much better than on "Confidante" on ES. Maybe he should have left that one off...to polish up his vocal and released it later rather than these two gems. Paul frequenlty leaves some of his best songs off albums. These two are just the latest to suffer that fate. While you can prefer whatever you want, the songs are not in competition with each other. Both make me want to dance and they both sound great blasting out of my speakers.
Very much agree with this .
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What? I have to defend "Caesar Rock" AGAIN?? The two new songs are very cool and I enjoy them tons. BUT, they are not 'vastly superior' to "Caesar Rock", which is a rocking, loud, and crashing tune. When I first played this song at my sons' powerlifting gym, the group lifting at the time thought it was the new Metallic song. Ha. I had to correct them.
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Have been replaying these and I'm looking forward to getting them on Record Store Day this Friday November 29!
...Its got a good beat and you can dance to it, I'll give it a 99...
from the Dick Clark annals of history
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love2travel wrote:
Have been replaying these and I'm looking forward to getting them on Record Store Day this Friday November 29!
...Its got a good beat and you can dance to it, I'll give it a 99...
from the Dick Clark annals of history
The store nearest to me (14 miles) texted me back that they only got 2 copies of it! I'm a night owl so no way could I get up early enough to be the first one in the door, especially on Black Friday!
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"In a Hurry" reminds me a lot of the Lemon Twigs -- who, of course, have been repeatedly cited as borrowing from the Beatles and Wings, among others. But there's something about the busy arrangement and repeated shifts that is very Lemon Twigs-ish.
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Nancy R wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Have been replaying these and I'm looking forward to getting them on Record Store Day this Friday November 29!
...Its got a good beat and you can dance to it, I'll give it a 99...
from the Dick Clark annals of history
The store nearest to me (14 miles) texted me back that they only got 2 copies of it! I'm a night owl so no way could I get up early enough to be the first one in the door, especially on Black Friday!
Gurl you need to get two alarm clocks and put them on your bedside table! This is for Paul McCartney singles!!!
I will see if I can get a third one, however, the second record store I'm going to is also about 14-15 miles away in a town with not much parking, so I do not have the highest hopes for luck there.
Last time, I went straight to the counter to ask about the quantity of cassettes they had, then got in line. When I got to the register, they had saved me one!
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love2travel wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Have been replaying these and I'm looking forward to getting them on Record Store Day this Friday November 29!
...Its got a good beat and you can dance to it, I'll give it a 99...
from the Dick Clark annals of history
The store nearest to me (14 miles) texted me back that they only got 2 copies of it! I'm a night owl so no way could I get up early enough to be the first one in the door, especially on Black Friday!
Gurl you need to get two alarm clocks and put them on your bedside table! This is for Paul McCartney singles!!!
I will see if I can get a third one, however, the second record store I'm going to is also about 14-15 miles away in a town with not much parking, so I do not have the highest hopes for luck there.
Last time, I went straight to the counter to ask about the quantity of cassettes they had, then got in line. When I got to the register, they had saved me one!
When I say I'm a night owl, I mean I don't fall asleep until after 3am and I sleep until 11!
Thanks for trying!
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wingsoverkc wrote:
What? I have to defend "Caesar Rock" AGAIN?? The two new songs are very cool and I enjoy them tons. BUT, they are not 'vastly superior' to "Caesar Rock", which is a rocking, loud, and crashing tune. When I first played this song at my sons' powerlifting gym, the group lifting at the time thought it was the new Metallic song. Ha. I had to correct them.
Sorry. I overstated my observation/opinion/preference. I'll just say Paul has/had enough good material to release two albums...and we could have been spared the "if only." When you start with the two bonus cuts on the deluxe edition of ES and move forward to the various songs since released, he had some nice songs. At this point, we have a total of 24 songs from the sessions for ES...two 12 cut-albums worth. I guess we can make our own!!!
We can all just agree that Paul is still very creative...and be thankful for that!!!
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Just got the 7“ Ltd. edition. With 12000 copies hardly very limited. The songs are mediocre. 20 years ago they would have been B- sides.
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Frank wrote:
Just got the 7“ Ltd. edition. With 12000 copies hardly very limited. The songs are mediocre. 20 years ago they would have been B- sides.
Unfortunately we don't have b-sides any more so they end up as bonus tracks on re-released albums (so we end up buying most of the material again) or these limited edition releases. If Nigel Godrich (or Youth) had been the producer then these songs would never have been recorded that's for certain.
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Haaa, What a pleasure to listen to Paul, sitting in my living room, with a cup of tea in his hand... better than mediation
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Frank wrote:
Just got the 7“ Ltd. edition. With 12000 copies hardly very limited. The songs are mediocre. 20 years ago they would have been B- sides.
You're nothing if not predictable. Your periodic pronouncements are mediocre!
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Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
Just got the 7“ Ltd. edition. With 12000 copies hardly very limited. The songs are mediocre. 20 years ago they would have been B- sides.
Unfortunately we don't have b-sides any more so they end up as bonus tracks on re-released albums (so we end up buying most of the material again) or these limited edition releases. If Nigel Godrich (or Youth) had been the producer then these songs would never have been recorded that's for certain.
"If Nigel (or Youth) had been the producer then these songs would never have been recorded that's for certain." Really? Nothing is "for certain." And you're an expert? I mean, Greg Kurstin, Paul's producer on the "Egypt Station" sessions has such a lousy track record and all and wouldn't recognize a good song if it hit him upside the head, having only done mediocre material with Adele and a few others. What could he know?? Since you have perfect taste and know what's brilliant music and what isn't, why not offer your expert opinions and services up to Paul!!? I'm "certain" he would hire you on the spot and his career would blossom and finally take off!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote: Since you have perfect taste and know what's brilliant music and what isn't, why not offer your expert opinions and services up to Paul!!? I'm "certain" he would hire you on the spot and his career would blossom and finally take off!
You haven't got his mobile number by any chance? I'll give him a ring and offer my services. I'm sure he'd find my rates very reasonable. I'd even give him a discount since he's an OAP. I can't say fairer than that can I?
The point I was making though was that some people like Godrich, Youth, Costello, Lennon etc are strong characters where they would tell Paul if a song was weak or not. I could add Glyn Jonhs to that list who walked out of the Red Rose Speedway sessions as he wasn't happy with the material being put forward and the groups attitude during the sessions.
Clearly Kurstin isn't in that group otherwise the songs wouldn't have been recorded. That's no reflection on his ability as a producer though, its more a case of he doesn't want to create waves and that he's happy enough to go along with what Paul puts forward to be recorded.
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Kestrel wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote: Since you have perfect taste and know what's brilliant music and what isn't, why not offer your expert opinions and services up to Paul!!? I'm "certain" he would hire you on the spot and his career would blossom and finally take off!
You haven't got his mobile number by any chance? I'll give him a ring and offer my services. I'm sure he'd find my rates very reasonable. I'd even give him a discount since he's an OAP. I can't say fairer than that can I?
The point I was making though was that some people like Godrich, Youth, Costello, Lennon etc are strong characters where they would tell Paul if a song was weak or not. I could add Glyn Jonhs to that list who walked out of the Red Rose Speedway sessions as he wasn't happy with the material being put forward and the groups attitude during the sessions.
Clearly Kurstin isn't in that group otherwise the songs wouldn't have been recorded. That's no reflection on his ability as a producer though, its more a case of he doesn't want to create waves and that he's happy enough to go along with what Paul puts forward to be recorded.
CHAOS was as good and album as it was because Godrich would not allow the usual 2-3 clunkers that are on most McCartney albums. IMO there is no way Godrich would have allowed some of the weak vocals on "Egypt Station".
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Bruce M. wrote:
After giving each of the new tunes another listen, Home Tonight is growing on me, though I still think In a Hurry is superior. Both quite solid -- not quite top tier Macca (a category I reserve for a couple dozen jaw-droppingly great songs), but strong second tier stuff for sure.
I agree with your opinion and I bet if he does one of these live in 2020 it will be "Home Tonight".
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote: Since you have perfect taste and know what's brilliant music and what isn't, why not offer your expert opinions and services up to Paul!!? I'm "certain" he would hire you on the spot and his career would blossom and finally take off!
You haven't got his mobile number by any chance? I'll give him a ring and offer my services. I'm sure he'd find my rates very reasonable. I'd even give him a discount since he's an OAP. I can't say fairer than that can I?
The point I was making though was that some people like Godrich, Youth, Costello, Lennon etc are strong characters where they would tell Paul if a song was weak or not. I could add Glyn Jonhs to that list who walked out of the Red Rose Speedway sessions as he wasn't happy with the material being put forward and the groups attitude during the sessions.
Clearly Kurstin isn't in that group otherwise the songs wouldn't have been recorded. That's no reflection on his ability as a producer though, its more a case of he doesn't want to create waves and that he's happy enough to go along with what Paul puts forward to be recorded.
CHAOS was as good and album as it was because Godrich would not allow the usual 2-3 clunkers that are on most McCartney albums. IMO there is no way Godrich would have allowed some of the weak vocals on "Egypt Station".
Ironically I've never had an issue with the vocal performances, its more the quality of the songs. Egypt Station is still very much a strange album for me. When I listen to it, it sounds very melodic and catchy. As soon as it ends, I've forgotten it. None of the songs seem particularly memorable as Paul's songs have done in the past, ... even the recent past.
As for the "weak vocals", everyone involved with the sessions must have heard them played back dozens of times so they would have had plenty of time to re-record them. Presumably Paul and the producer must have been happy with them? Perhaps Paul was attempting a particular 'feel' to the vocal, like on Winter Rose or You Tell Me?
Anyway,back on topic, I hope everyone who wanted to buy the single has managed to obtain a copy.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Frank wrote:
Just got the 7“ Ltd. edition. With 12000 copies hardly very limited. The songs are mediocre. 20 years ago they would have been B- sides.
You're nothing if not predictable. Your periodic pronouncements are mediocre!
I love Get Enough & Sinatra‘s Party. I just don‘t have to like every leftover song that wasn‘t put on the album for a reason. And I rather find people predictable who feel obliged to like everything Paul puts out.
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Nancy R wrote:
stuartshire wrote:
Shiner Bailey wrote:
A song that even George Harrison would have thrown away before recording.
What a strange post from a McCartney "fan" ?!
Fantastic ! - this would have enhanced the original album significantly ! why wait till now ?
Obviously to make more $$$.
Yep, we all know he needs the money -lol. People on this board seem to like these "new" songs so it does make you wonder why he did not think they were good enough for the release of "Egypt Station".
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
stuartshire wrote:
Shiner Bailey wrote:
A song that even George Harrison would have thrown away before recording.
What a strange post from a McCartney "fan" ?!
Fantastic ! - this would have enhanced the original album significantly ! why wait till now ?
Obviously to make more $$$.
Yep, we all know he needs the money -lol. People on this board seem to like these "new" songs so it does make you wonder why he did not think they were good enough for the release of "Egypt Station".
Its not always about the quality of the songs though but the structure of the album and where the song can fit in,especially if other songs share similar arrangements. A good example is I Want You To Fly, a top notch track which was left off the Chaos & Creation album. The only reason I can see for why it was omitted was because it shared a very similar arrangement near its end to that of How Kind Of You, which was included.