Has Paul played his last concert?
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Travis wrote:
Once some of the stay-at-home restrictions are lifted, even if Paul can't do big arena, stadium or outdoor festival concerts for pandemic-related reasons, I think he'll find ways to perform. Paul seems to love embracing new technology and new ways of reaching his audience, so barring something terrible, I think Paul will find a way to perform live with his band and entertain us in some type of concert performance. It may be non-traditional, but I don't expect Paul to fade away. He's healthy, energized, and loves to entertain. As long as possible, I think he'll try to go on -- and go out -- on his own terms. I live in hope of deliverance that we have not come to the end of the end!
Hear, hear! Btw, they were playing Hope Of Deliverance when I was in the grocery store today! (with my mask and gloves)
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
Thanks, Yankeefan2, I think he will defy the odds. Look at Mick Jagger, he had open heart surgery and was out in a short time getting ready to rock again. I think we shouldn't underestimate these Sixties Rockers, they're made of tough stuff!
Just for clarity, Mick did NOT have open heart surgery. He had a stent put in. Non-evasive. Serious. Yes? Open heart surgery? No.
I believe you meant to say non-invasive. However, as a former O.R. nurse, I can tell you that's not correct. A heart stent is considered a minimally invasive procedure.
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health-topics/stents
However, this is not what Mick had done. He had a transcatheter aortic valve replacement, but it was done minimally invasive.
https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20190405/mick-jagger-recovering-after-heart-surgery
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LadyLeslie wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
Thanks, Yankeefan2, I think he will defy the odds. Look at Mick Jagger, he had open heart surgery and was out in a short time getting ready to rock again. I think we shouldn't underestimate these Sixties Rockers, they're made of tough stuff!
Just for clarity, Mick did NOT have open heart surgery. He had a stent put in. Non-evasive. Serious. Yes? Open heart surgery? No.
Thanks for clarifying, but this article said he had a valve replaced, and isn't that considered a procedure where they had to open up his chest, similar to an open heart surgery?
https://www.health.com/condition/heart-disease/mick-jagger-heart-valve-replacement
No, they avoided opening his chest. See link I posted.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
Thanks, Yankeefan2, I think he will defy the odds. Look at Mick Jagger, he had open heart surgery and was out in a short time getting ready to rock again. I think we shouldn't underestimate these Sixties Rockers, they're made of tough stuff!
Lady Leslie, I think we are all amazed Keith Richards is still with us - ha ha
Yes
That's the point I was making about Mick Jagger, his heart took a licking, but it keeps on ticking!
I think Paul is made of the same tough stuff!
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Nancy R wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
LadyLeslie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
love2travel wrote:
Don't give up! There are several drugs that have been found in the lab, that kill this in 48 hours in the lab. They are trying to get funding to develop a dose. Also theyre going to try antibodies from people who got over it. These could work temporarily till they get a vaccine. Everyone could be praying that the scientists find something that works till we get a vaccine. It's really hard, but we need to all pray something good like this, will happen soon. It's really a possibility.
It is still a race against "Father Time". The artists mentioned are all rapidly approaching 80. How well they do physically/mentally can change in a heartbeat. We are all quite lucky they have all aged fairly gracefully, that can't be expected forever. I hope you are right but sadly I think it is over for McCartney, the Stones etc.
I don't think we should count Paul out just yet. He's very healthy for a man his age, he's lived a vegetarian lifestyle for many years, he exercises and keeps fit, he loves making music and seems to have a happy and positive outlook on life, which reduces stress that can cause health problems. I think we'll have a better perspective once this crisis is over, but I don't think it's over as far as his music and him giving concerts. It's up to him of course as to the extent of where he wants to go from here, but I don't see him stopping completely. It's in his blood, and too much a part of him to just give up.
God love you for your optimism but I just disagree. I have seen healthy 70 year old people go from acting like they were 20 years younger to being dependant on people for everyday things in a very short period of time. Let's hope he continues to defy the odds.
Thanks, Yankeefan2, I think he will defy the odds. Look at Mick Jagger, he had open heart surgery and was out in a short time getting ready to rock again. I think we shouldn't underestimate these Sixties Rockers, they're made of tough stuff!
Just for clarity, Mick did NOT have open heart surgery. He had a stent put in. Non-evasive. Serious. Yes? Open heart surgery? No.
Thanks for clarifying, but this article said he had a valve replaced, and isn't that considered a procedure where they had to open up his chest, similar to an open heart surgery?
https://www.health.com/condition/heart-disease/mick-jagger-heart-valve-replacement
No, they avoided opening his chest. See link I posted.
Thanks, Nancy! I should have read the entire link I posted when asking the question yesterday, because it stated there, too , that valve replacement is no longer done as an open heart procedure. When they explained that a tube has to be inserted through the groin, however, I did feel Mick's pain!
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Nancy R wrote:
Travis wrote:
Once some of the stay-at-home restrictions are lifted, even if Paul can't do big arena, stadium or outdoor festival concerts for pandemic-related reasons, I think he'll find ways to perform. Paul seems to love embracing new technology and new ways of reaching his audience, so barring something terrible, I think Paul will find a way to perform live with his band and entertain us in some type of concert performance. It may be non-traditional, but I don't expect Paul to fade away. He's healthy, energized, and loves to entertain. As long as possible, I think he'll try to go on -- and go out -- on his own terms. I live in hope of deliverance that we have not come to the end of the end!
Hear, hear! Btw, they were playing Hope Of Deliverance when I was in the grocery store today! (with my mask and gloves)
That seems like a positive sign, right? I love in the thread about the Saturday event how many people are hoping he sings that song! It's always been one of my favorites, and right now seems like the perfect moment in time to bring it back!
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Paul loves being in front of audiences. He'll do it for as long as he can. My fear is that he won't recognize when he can't any more.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Paul loves being in front of audiences. He'll do it for as long as he can. My fear is that he won't recognize when he can't any more.
My thoughts exactly Bruce!
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It never crossed my mind that we wouldn't see Paul gigging/touring again . He looks like he takes it in his stride to me.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Paul loves being in front of audiences. He'll do it for as long as he can. My fear is that he won't recognize when he can't any more.
I think music is his lifeblood, the only way he won't do it anymore is if he physically can't , and he seems to be in good health for quite a while yet.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Paul loves being in front of audiences. He'll do it for as long as he can. My fear is that he won't recognize when he can't any more.
That is when you hope he has family/friends who can give him some "tough" love and make him understand it is over.
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LadyLeslie wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Paul loves being in front of audiences. He'll do it for as long as he can. My fear is that he won't recognize when he can't any more.
I think music is his lifeblood, the only way he won't do it anymore is if he physically can't , and he seems to be in good health for quite a while yet.
Totally agree Lady Leslie
Every stadium show I've been to, is chocoblock full of happy people. As much as I'd enjoy seeing Paul play in an intimate setting, that doesn't seem to be any time soon. If he plays, I'll be going to the shows. Seems to be the case of most artists.
He just created Egypt Station and it was phenomenal, so keep on rockin Paul! You know what to do!!
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I totaly agree that "music" is in Paul's lifeblood and so is constantly writing songs. Just a gut feel but I think Paul will fulfill all the 2020 shows that are going to be postponed because of this World Pandemic. That will put us into 2021 when Paul will be getting close to 79 years old. I think by that time, Paul will be ready to really slow down from touring all over the world.
Just a gut feel but when and after Paul fulfills these shows, I think he will be ready to go "full tilt" into the studio and work on a new album. I would think that this awful virus and economic slowdown/recession we're now having and will continue to have just might help Paul's music creative juices to really surge and he will be probably be ready to put it on an album. I know I'm being quite optimistic but that's what I'm hoping.
I don't believe that Paul is close to playing his last concert but because this health crisis has delayed Paul's touring coupled with his age, I do believe that we are close to Paul stopping these long, world-like tours.
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B J Conlee wrote:
I totaly agree that "music" is in Paul's lifeblood and so is constantly writing songs. Just a gut feel but I think Paul will fulfill all the 2020 shows that are going to be postponed because of this World Pandemic. That will put us into 2021 when Paul will be getting close to 79 years old. I think by that time, Paul will be ready to really slow down from touring all over the world.
Just a gut feel but when and after Paul fulfills these shows, I think he will be ready to go "full tilt" into the studio and work on a new album. I would think that this awful virus and economic slowdown/recession we're now having and will continue to have just might help Paul's music creative juices to really surge and he will be probably be ready to put it on an album. I know I'm being quite optimistic but that's what I'm hoping.
I don't believe that Paul is close to playing his last concert but because this health crisis has delayed Paul's touring coupled with his age, I do believe that we are close to Paul stopping these long, world-like tours.
I would not dare to predict what Paul will do. Surely he will never stop making music, and it's pretty clear he loves being in front of audiences. I just hope he takes care of himself and uses however much time he has left wisely. God bless Tony Bennett (who at 93 is still going), but not everyone is that lucky.
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You're right Bruce. No one knows for sure unless you're Nancy and maybe his kids. Knowing Paul's love for the fans and his history, I do think it is safe to assume that he will fulfill the 2020 shows that are/will being postponed. It is more of a hope on my part but at that point we're probably talking about Spring/Summer of 2021. Hopefully by that point, Paul has enough new songs to work on (maybe with his Band) and that he might be ready to have a producer like Greg Kurstin lay the framework for a new album. Nothing factual on my part but given the choice of starting a new album vs. starting another tour, I would think that in Paul's mind, he would opt for the former. Of course, it would depend if he has enough new material for an album. I'm sure hoping that he does. As both of us agree, Greg did a great job producing Egypt Station and helping Paul's "older voice" sound as good as it did.
As I said, I think we will get an occastional "big" show from Paul and Band, but I'm still hoping that he stops full fledge tours. To answer this thread, I don't think we have seen Paul's last show. If that is the case and we get an occastional big show, maybe we could get more of a varied Setlist. I know...a lot of "hoping" on my part.
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Bruce M. wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
I totaly agree that "music" is in Paul's lifeblood and so is constantly writing songs. Just a gut feel but I think Paul will fulfill all the 2020 shows that are going to be postponed because of this World Pandemic. That will put us into 2021 when Paul will be getting close to 79 years old. I think by that time, Paul will be ready to really slow down from touring all over the world.
Just a gut feel but when and after Paul fulfills these shows, I think he will be ready to go "full tilt" into the studio and work on a new album. I would think that this awful virus and economic slowdown/recession we're now having and will continue to have just might help Paul's music creative juices to really surge and he will be probably be ready to put it on an album. I know I'm being quite optimistic but that's what I'm hoping.
I don't believe that Paul is close to playing his last concert but because this health crisis has delayed Paul's touring coupled with his age, I do believe that we are close to Paul stopping these long, world-like tours.
I would not dare to predict what Paul will do. Surely he will never stop making music, and it's pretty clear he loves being in front of audiences. I just hope he takes care of himself and uses however much time he has left wisely. God bless Tony Bennett (who at 93 is still going), but not everyone is that lucky.
God love Tony Bennet but he does not also play musical instrument, sing for almost 3 hours and his songs are not hard on the voice. Like you said, he is very lucky and not your usual 93 year old guy -lol
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B J Conlee wrote:
I totaly agree that "music" is in Paul's lifeblood and so is constantly writing songs. Just a gut feel but I think Paul will fulfill all the 2020 shows that are going to be postponed because of this World Pandemic. That will put us into 2021 when Paul will be getting close to 79 years old. I think by that time, Paul will be ready to really slow down from touring all over the world.
Just a gut feel but when and after Paul fulfills these shows, I think he will be ready to go "full tilt" into the studio and work on a new album. I would think that this awful virus and economic slowdown/recession we're now having and will continue to have just might help Paul's music creative juices to really surge and he will be probably be ready to put it on an album. I know I'm being quite optimistic but that's what I'm hoping.
I don't believe that Paul is close to playing his last concert but because this health crisis has delayed Paul's touring coupled with his age, I do believe that we are close to Paul stopping these long, world-like tours.
It is very hard to predict what a performer who is approching 80 might do. They could be very healthy and with it mentally one minute and before you know it that changes in a heartbeat. In a perfect world, I agree with you he will try to honor the 2020 shows in 2021, I am sure they don't want to be doing refunds. After that, I would think he would enjoy doing other projects like finishing the musical and maybe a new album. We shall see.
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A previous post said that the songs Tony Bennett sings are not hard on the voice. My wife and I have seen him in Manchester four times in recent years, and in every show he has all the microphones switched off for one number. He can still be heard by everyone, and he is pushing his voice to the limit. The songs from the Great American Songbook are not easy to sing well - they were written for the best singers and are wonderfully crafted both musically and lyrically - this is why they have lasted so long. If you've seen Tony live, you would know that he has a tremendous range. Paul's singing was very rough recently on the One World programme, and I feel lucky to have seen him live in the 70s when he was at his absolute peak vocally and musically.
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If all of Paul's 4 concerts in France are cancelled (which seems very likely), the whole European tour will probably share that fate.
Perhaps he believes that canceling is the best option regarding his health, as he's in the high-risk age group and it's impossible to be sure that in 2021 it will be safe to do the kind of tours he's used to.
He'll be 80 years old in 2022, so even if it's safe to resume touring then, will he still be willing to?
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5th-beatle wrote:
If all of Paul's 4 concerts in France are cancelled (which seems very likely), the whole European tour will probably share that fate.
Perhaps he believes that canceling is the best option regarding his health, as he's in the high-risk age group and it's impossible to be sure that in 2021 it will be safe to do the kind of tours he's used to.
He'll be 80 years old in 2022, so even if it's safe to resume touring then, will he still be willing to?
He said in the Howard Stern interview that the 2020 concerts were cancelled, didn't he? If possible, he will reschedule them for 2021.