Set List critique
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nowords:
A McCartnry gig without jet is like a gig without Yesterday
In my opinion this comparison is too asymmetrical. Jet isn't yesterday
but I know what u mean! By the way Out There Tour isn't the first tour without "JET". Paul did perform "Jet" 1975/76 and since 1989 on every tour but it wasn't in the setlist 1979!!! That he dropped "Jet" was the first step into an direction with greater opportunities for other songs we all would like listen on tour. I don't have a problem if he drops "Let me roll too it" he could replace it with songs like "Getting Closer, No Values" "My Brave Face", "The World Tonight" and so on or brings "Letting go" (one of my top 3 songs) back. I'm very curious what happens in the case of the setlist after "Out there tour" is finished. It's my (little) hope that he continues to drop a bit more "core songs" and messages
between the songs.
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mr.flamingpie:
nowords:
A McCartnry gig without jet is like a gig without Yesterday
In my opinion this comparison is too asymmetrical. Jet isn't yesterday
but I know what u mean! By the way Out There Tour isn't the first tour without "JET". Paul did perform "Jet" 1975/76 and since 1989 on every tour but it wasn't in the setlist 1979!!!
In addition "Jet" was left out of the U.S. legs of the New World Tour in '93.
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Bring back let em in and chucking no words back in the mix would be a nice treat
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I hope in some surprise song for the Liverpool gig! "Some other guy" that Paul did in 1989 durin a soundcheck in Milan would be cool!! But also "In my life" would be a good choice! I dont like the Harrison version of 74 Tour.
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nowords:
Bring back let em in and chucking no words back in the mix would be a nice treat
I've had my fill of Let Em In...heard it live in '10 + '11...the first time was exciting...but at these big stadium gigs it's kind of a boring track really. No Words would be AMAZING but.....who the heck in this band can sing THE high part? Abe? I dunno...
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So, once a new tour starts, what do you think will realistically happen to the setlist? Do you think the new show (probably 2016) will feature a 8-10 song change like Out There did? Or maybe 5-6 songs.
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Temporary Secretary sounded great at the 02 show. A fantastic addition. Really miss Jet as the second song though. And do not understand why Save Us is still in the set - a lame weak tune not up to par with Paul's better rockers - not even close. Wish oh wish that No Values would find its way onto the set list - along with Silly Love Songs and No More Lonely Nights. Now that would be something! Really would be something
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My Salamander:
Temporary Secretary sounded great at the 02 show. A fantastic addition. Really miss Jet as the second song though. And do not understand why Save Us is still in the set - a lame weak tune not up to par with Paul's better rockers - not even close. Wish oh wish that No Values would find its way onto the set list - along with Silly Love Songs and No More Lonely Nights. Now that would be something! Really would be something
I'd much rather have "Jet" than hear "Save Us" for a third time. And I know it's not the cool macca-board opinion...but I'd much rather have "Coming Up" than "Temporary Secretary". "No Values" is probably even more obscure than "Temporary Secretary"...but who knows! I think "Silly Love Songs" and "No More Lonely Nights" are out of his range these days...
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KingMacca:
So, once a new tour starts, what do you think will realistically happen to the setlist? Do you think the new show (probably 2016) will feature a 8-10 song change like Out There did? Or maybe 5-6 songs.
I was also thinking about this, with Temporary Secretary being played Paul has so many options he can realisticly include in a new show. So atm my guess is that the out there tour will conclude on 31st July.
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So now I have your attention (maybe)..... I was at the Birmingham gig on the 27th....my 5th in 25 years. I have NEVER sat down at a concert by Macca . It was a brilliant concert as usual. But now I must have a moan. WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING PUTTING TEMPORARY SECRETARY ON THE SET LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was truly awful....i sat down!! The audience went flat... there was muted applause afterwards... the Macca stepped up to the mike, held his hand out as if acknowledging how bad it was and said "I hear ya". Please PLEASE don't play it live again... it was awful when it was first released and is awful now ...sorry everyone but it has to be said. Sarah
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sarah1471:
So now I have your attention (maybe)..... I was at the Birmingham gig on the 27th....my 5th in 25 years. I have NEVER sat down at a concert by Macca . It was a brilliant concert as usual. But now I must have a moan. WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING PUTTING TEMPORARY SECRETARY ON THE SET LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was truly awful....i sat down!! The audience went flat... there was muted applause afterwards... the Macca stepped up to the mike, held his hand out as if acknowledging how bad it was and said "I hear ya". Please PLEASE don't play it live again... it was awful when it was first released and is awful now ...sorry everyone but it has to be said. Sarah
I almost agree but it's nice to have a song that allows you time to nip to the toilet it used to be rough ride and later my loving flame . Also it's kind of nice for the younger folk in the crowd as this is played a lot in today's clubs. It's not a song I like either. paul acknowledged last night that most people will turn there phones off when it's played. I missed Jet from the setlist
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I certainly dispute that it's played a lot in clubs - I've certainly never heard any DJ play it!! I actually found it surprisingly enjoyable in Liverpool last night and I'm not a fan of the song. Hope for the Future was the low point of the show, he lost the entire audience for 4 minutes!
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RockyRaccoon68:
I certainly dispute that it's played a lot in clubs - I've certainly never heard any DJ play it!! I actually found it surprisingly enjoyable in Liverpool last night and I'm not a fan of the song. Hope for the Future was the low point of the show, he lost the entire audience for 4 minutes!
not sure about losing the entire audience last night I think more people darted during I'm looking through you. I thought temporary sec sounded ok last night for an average song.
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Interestingly, and supported by other posts from those in the audience, Paul has actually sung Maybe I'm Amazed quite well the past week or so. Amazing what his voice still has when he's really warmed up and psyched in the moment!
I still believe he could pull off Silly Love Songs or No More Lonely Nights on a good night.
Wish oh wish!!
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My Salamander:
Interestingly, and supported by other posts from those in the audience, Paul has actually sung Maybe I'm Amazed quite well the past week or so. Amazing what his voice still has when he's really warmed up and psyched in the moment!
I still believe he could pull off Silly Love Songs or No More Lonely Nights on a good night.
Wish oh wish!!
his voice held out in Liverpool some people have said they held back on the screensduring maybe I'm amazed because he may have some help but I can't say I noticed. I did want jet back for Liverpool though it would have been a nice treat
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sarah1471:
Please PLEASE don't play it live again... it was awful when it was first released and is awful now ...sorry everyone but it has to be said. Sarah
I have to agree with Sarah here.
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On the one hand, it is promising that TS is being played, ie Paul can and will play solo songs. On the other hand, there are so many cooler tunes he can play live, like Girls School, or Soily, or On The Way.
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...or Getting Closer....... So Glad to See You Here
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javilu:
sarah1471:
Please PLEASE don't play it live again... it was awful when it was first released and is awful now ...sorry everyone but it has to be said. Sarah
I have to agree with Sarah here.
I never liked the song, actually it is one of his worst IMO. For the people that went crazy when he played it for the first time, to each their own. I would much rather hear solo songs like "Take It Away", "That Was Me'. "House of Wax", "I Can Bet", "Promise to You Girl", "Dance Til We're High" etc.
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yankeefan7:
javilu:
sarah1471:
Please PLEASE don't play it live again... it was awful when it was first released and is awful now ...sorry everyone but it has to be said. Sarah
I have to agree with Sarah here.
I never liked the song, actually it is one of his worst IMO. For the people that went crazy when he played it for the first time, to each their own. I would much rather hear solo songs like "Take It Away", "That Was Me'. "House of Wax", "I Can Bet", "Promise to You Girl", "Dance Til We're High" etc.
yes of course there are endless other songs I would prefer too!!! But on the other side TS is the first addition of a song after wings beyond the corresponding "new album songs" since 2002. Further exceptions were "Flaming Pie" and "Calico Skies" 2004-2010 and "Coming Up" 2002-03. IMO we shouldn't (always) complain about setlist changes which goes into the right direction. A few seems to miss "Jet". "Save us" isn't "Jet"... but instead of listen "Jet" a further time I'm happy to get "Save us" for the first time next sunday in amsterdam!
Much more questionable is the fact that "Something" is still in the setlist or why songs like "All Together Now" or "Mr. Kite" are more important for Paul
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: than all the great wings/solo songs yankeefan7, sarah1471 etc. called.