Set List critique
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RMartinez:
moptops:
Yahllil:
Can anyone explain me why does Paul play 'Mull Of Kintyre' just in the UK and Canada?
...and Australia
He's played in Australia???
Oh ho ho ho. My sides are splitting.
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Yahllil:
Can anyone explain me why does Paul play 'Mull Of Kintyre' just in the UK and Canada?
...and Australia
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moptops:
makka:
I want "Pipes of Peace" hmm.. "Tell Me What You See" would be great. Brian May is playing it on his One Voice Tour. it was amazing to hear it I am Polish and I like "Mull of Kintyre" and don't like "In Spite of..". Maybe he will change setlist for me in Prague, haha!
Wait! You're from Poland??? I'd never have guessed! News to me!
moptops:
Yahllil:
Can anyone explain me why does Paul play 'Mull Of Kintyre' just in the UK and Canada?
...and Australia
Macca was in PL in 2013 in Australia in .. even Macca didn't remember it
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makka:
moptops:
makka:
I want "Pipes of Peace" hmm.. "Tell Me What You See" would be great. Brian May is playing it on his One Voice Tour. it was amazing to hear it I am Polish and I like "Mull of Kintyre" and don't like "In Spite of..". Maybe he will change setlist for me in Prague, haha!
Wait! You're from Poland??? I'd never have guessed! News to me!
moptops:
Yahllil:
Can anyone explain me why does Paul play 'Mull Of Kintyre' just in the UK and Canada?
...and Australia
Macca was in PL in 2013 in Australia in .. even Macca didn't remember it
Ba haa ha ha ah HAAA ha haaa!!!
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If Paul ever returns to Australia he should perform that awful koala song lol
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javilu:
If Paul ever returns to Australia he should perform that awful koala song lol
And we wonder why we have a hard time convincing people he really is a rocker!!
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Never mind his set list, I wish he'd change up the banter and not be so scripted between songs...ESPECIALLY for those of us who go see multiple shows, whether from tour to tour or within the same tour.
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Henderson7:
Just some thoughts after being in attendance the last two nights in Vancouver.. Save Us needs to drop out of the second spot, most of the crowd doesn't know the song. Temporary Secretary - Same thing as Save Us, most people have no reaction to it. Here today - A bit rough with the voice last night more than the first, I get its his time to salute John but another song that doesn't have those high notes might be better.
But if Paul never plays Save Us or Temporary Secretary (like you suggest) No one will ever get to know them! That is one of the problems! If he had played his new stuff all along the sing a longs would be happening on his more current stuff!
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"My Little Koala" sounds real smooth and sweet and its message is sweet, its theme. But then that's just me. I'm sure some others like it too. It's kind of dreamy
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In Pittsburgh and Philly, "Save Us" kept the momentum going...in Charlottesville it sucked the life out of the place...and equally so, with "Temporary Secretary". I think a lot of this depends on the demographic of the crowd. The Philly crowd last year was way more open-minded than the folks in VA.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
"My Little Koala" sounds real smooth and sweet and its message is sweet, its theme. But then that's just me. I'm sure some others like it too. It's kind of dreamy
No.
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Must every song be a hard rocker, though? It's great Macca can get in touch with his childhood, his inner child and expresses that sometimes, to the delight of real children and "grown up" children--"My Little Koala" is one of those, seems to me.
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RMartinez:
DrBeatle:
RMartinez:
Yahllil:
Can anyone explain me why does Paul play 'Mull Of Kintyre' just in the UK and Canada?
Apparently he plays it just for Scottish people in those lands. I guess if you aren't Scottish, you aren't supposed to like the song. I'm Mexican American and love the song.
If it were just the case of a lot of Scottish-descended folks, he would play it in the US as well (especially the northeast, where there are tons of Scottish). I did read years ago the reason he never plays it in the US is that it flopped here whereas it was a smash everywhere else in the English-speaking world. (Canada, UK, and Oz if he ever plays there again! )
It didn't flop here. It was never marketed here. Girls School was. And I heard THAT on the radio. That's what I call the McCartney Dilemma. He puts out a rocker like Girls School, but the flip side, Mull of Kintyre, a Scottish acoustic folk song, is a hit, and THAT is what McCartney gets known for, not the rock tune.
______________________________________________________ This is what drives me nuts about Paul. The Paul of the last decade or so was no longer the Paul of 1976. In those years, Paul did what he wanted to do and he could care less about what the critics and radio thought. Mull of Kintyre didn't become a hit in the US because people didn't hear the song on the radio. It is as simple as that. A great song is a great song. Once he started touring again in the US after Linda's death in 2002, he should have absolutely put Mull of Kintyre in the Setlist. If he had and kept it in (like Maybe I'm Amazed and Here Today) it would have become a "signature" song like those songs are. Not playing Mull of Kintyre in the US to get back at US Radio or to think that they knew the American public's tastes better, has only hurt Paul. There are thousands of casual Beatle and Paul fans in the US who still don't know "Mull" and that is a travesty. It is one of Paul's greatest compositions and the fact that he hasn't played it in the US over the last 14-15 years is "crazy". Can you imagine another artist that had a song that good and tours as much as Paul and NOT Playing it. As I said...Crazy! Never understood why any of Paul's kids would not ask their Dad the same question.
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Mull of Kintyre can sound a bit draggy and dull, kind of boring and too slow, to me, in certain moods. Other times, can appreciate it more. To be honest would like to hear it done a bit faster in tempo or even more than a bit fast. Lively, vibrant, spry to kindle a feeling of more excitement-- and feeling more patriotic, if you've any Scottish in you or avid appreciation of that country and of the U.K. in general, I guess. Course then the bagpipes might have to be played faster too, are bagpipes ever played fast? That part might not sound right if done that way.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Mull of Kintyre can sound a bit draggy and dull, kind of boring and too slow, to me, in certain moods. Other times, can appreciate it more. To be honest would like to hear it done a bit faster in tempo or even more than a bit fast. Lively, vibrant, spry to kindle a feeling of more excitement-- and feeling more patriotic, if you've any Scottish in you or avid appreciation of that country and of the U.K. in general, I guess. Course then the bagpipes might have to be played faster too, are bagpipes ever played fast? That part might not sound right if done that way.
But you think the koala bear song will rock an arena??
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Are we talking about Ode to a Koala Bear? Or is there something new that I'm missing?
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makka:
steblap:
moptops:
It's like he's singing with one lung. There is no power in his voice. It's been croaky or wobbly before sometimes but not like this. It's weak, and sometimes feeble. Interestingly the press reviews have made no issue of it. Not yet.
Or maybe he's just a 74 year old man singing the songs he wrote when he was 25. Like it or not, he'll never ever sound as good as the year before (nor will any of us) so shall he be touring next year .. we'll be looking back to how great he sang in 2016 He's just human, isnt' he?
Think like that - if you don't want to give money for his show - don't give them. My biggest dream is to see Paul - I will travel 660 km to make it in June. I know that his voice has its best times behind, but for God sake - he is Sir Paul McCartney. He could play anything from his big career and it still will be amazing. World has maybe 4.600000 years, and we are living at the same time with as wonderful man as Macca, who gives us moments of tears and happiness with music and his entirety. We have to be grateful that we have this honour to see him playing by all those years.
^^ Thank you for this. It's always so weird for me to go to shows, and every fan is raving about him and joyous. Then I read rave reviews from pretty much every music critic after every Paul show -- and they go to concerts and judge them for a living, and they can't stop praising him, yet I come to his message board, and it's so much negativity! I've been seeing him live since 1993, and sure, his voice is stronger some nights than others, but BFD! His voice is just one aspect of this show. It's almost refreshing when he has a moment where he seems like a real human being... you know, imperfect. The majority of his moments are still fantastic, and his performances certainly still capture the feeling of the originals. There are plenty of moments when his voice sounds strong and true. These shows are his life history and also the soundtrack to my life and to many fans in the audience. They're emotional, exciting, packed with visual stimulation, and loud and glorious rock and roll. Every single show, I rock out... and I literally cry. I keep going back and spending money I haven't yet earned because the experience is so wonderful. I'm super thankful he's doing what he's doing. I also enjoy Four Five Seconds, and it has seemed from the people around me singing along during the three times I've heard him perform it, that many others do, too. I just find it so odd that there are 20,000 happy fans every time he performs, and a dozen or so people who criticize his every move dominating his own message board. It's a weird world.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Mull of Kintyre can sound a bit draggy and dull, kind of boring and too slow, to me, in certain moods. Other times, can appreciate it more. To be honest would like to hear it done a bit faster in tempo or even more than a bit fast. Lively, vibrant, spry to kindle a feeling of more excitement-- and feeling more patriotic, if you've any Scottish in you or avid appreciation of that country and of the U.K. in general, I guess. Course then the bagpipes might have to be played faster too, are bagpipes ever played fast? That part might not sound right if done that way.
________________________________________________________ Susy, To each his own. I never (and still don't) find it dull and draggy. To me, it was so different than anything being played on the radio at that time, it was a breadth of fresh air. While it was different, it still had that magic Macca melody to it. Once I found out that Mull of Kintyre was a place where Paul and Linda lived, the lyrics also resonated and I found them beautiful. I still remember the first time I heard Mull. It was in one of those diners that were prevalent in the Northeast, specifically in the PA & NJ areas where I lived. At each booth there was a rectangular record player (not sure what to call it) where you could select singles (45's with both the A & B sides) from big artists of the day. Kids would love to play the popular songs of the day at the diner. It was one reason why diners became meeting places for so many teenagers. Remember Billy Joel's "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" song. It had to be 1977 because that is when and where I remember hearing Mull of Kintyre the 1st time. Girlschool was the A side that the local radio stations were playing but with Paul I loved to play the B-side since you wouldn't know it. I still remember seeing this strange title "Mull of Kintyre". I didn't know at the time that the title was named after a place. Anyway, I still remember just loving the song for the melody, the words and the bagpipes. As I mentioned, it was so different but I still loved it almost instantly. Anyway, I must have played the song 5 or 10 times that night. Unfortunately, it became expensive since you had to pay for each play. I always like Paul's rockers but in this case I liked Mull of Kintyre quite a bit better than the A-side Girlschool. Girl school was a good song but nothing out of the ordinary. Mull of Kintyre sounded so distinct and unique that I fell in love with it. Once U-tube came out years later, I noticed that many other artists (known and unknown) have covered "Mull". The 2 most famous artists I remember off the top of my head were Glenn Campbell and Susan Boyle. Like you, I love Macca because he is so diverse. He covers so many genres and "Mull" is an example of his "folk" side. Just because it has a Scottish folk sound, it doesn't mean that the song can't resonate with people and countries all over the world. Unfortunately, because in 1977 it was pre-MTV and pre-U-tube and computers, the only way a song could become a hit and heard was on the radio. It meant that even Beatle/Paul fans in the US never heard it. You had to be an obsessed fan like me to find (and buy) it. To this day, I still believe that Mull would have been a big hit if it was the A-side upon it's release. My point in the earlier post is that Paul never helped make Mull of Kintyre known to US public despite playing in venues all over the 48 states for many years. When you see a U-tube clip of Mull of Kintyre played live in Canada it gives you goose bumps. Unfortunately the million of US fans seeing Paul in person in the US have never had that live experience. To me, that is a shame. Mull of Kintyre is one of Paul greatest solo songs in my opinion.
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RMartinez:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Mull of Kintyre can sound a bit draggy and dull, kind of boring and too slow, to me, in certain moods. Other times, can appreciate it more. To be honest would like to hear it done a bit faster in tempo or even more than a bit fast. Lively, vibrant, spry to kindle a feeling of more excitement-- and feeling more patriotic, if you've any Scottish in you or avid appreciation of that country and of the U.K. in general, I guess. Course then the bagpipes might have to be played faster too, are bagpipes ever played fast? That part might not sound right if done that way.
But you think the koala bear song will rock an arena??
I didn't say I think "the koala bear song will rock an arena"
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B J Conlee:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Mull of Kintyre can sound a bit draggy and dull, kind of boring and too slow, to me, in certain moods. Other times, can appreciate it more. To be honest would like to hear it done a bit faster in tempo or even more than a bit fast. Lively, vibrant, spry to kindle a feeling of more excitement-- and feeling more patriotic, if you've any Scottish in you or avid appreciation of that country and of the U.K. in general, I guess. Course then the bagpipes might have to be played faster too, are bagpipes ever played fast? That part might not sound right if done that way.
________________________________________________________ Susy, To each his own. I never (and still don't) find it dull and draggy. To me, it was so different than anything being played on the radio at that time, it was a breadth of fresh air. While it was different, it still had that magic Macca melody to it. Once I found out that Mull of Kintyre was a place where Paul and Linda lived, the lyrics also resonated and I found them beautiful. I still remember the first time I heard Mull. It was in one of those diners that were prevalent in the Northeast, specifically in the PA & NJ areas where I lived. At each booth there was a rectangular record player (not sure what to call it) where you could select singles (45's with both the A & B sides) from big artists of the day. Kids would love to play the popular songs of the day at the diner. It was one reason why diners became meeting places for so many teenagers. Remember Billy Joel's "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" song. It had to be 1977 because that is when and where I remember hearing Mull of Kintyre the 1st time. Girlschool was the A side that the local radio stations were playing but with Paul I loved to play the B-side since you wouldn't know it. I still remember seeing this strange title "Mull of Kintyre". I didn't know at the time that the title was named after a place. Anyway, I still remember just loving the song for the melody, the words and the bagpipes. As I mentioned, it was so different but I still loved it almost instantly. Anyway, I must have played the song 5 or 10 times that night. Unfortunately, it became expensive since you had to pay for each play. I always like Paul's rockers but in this case I liked Mull of Kintyre quite a bit better than the A-side Girlschool. Girl school was a good song but nothing out of the ordinary. Mull of Kintyre sounded so distinct and unique that I fell in love with it. Once U-tube came out years later, I noticed that many other artists (known and unknown) have covered "Mull". The 2 most famous artists I remember off the top of my head were Glenn Campbell and Susan Boyle. Like you, I love Macca because he is so diverse. He covers so many genres and "Mull" is an example of his "folk" side. Just because it has a Scottish folk sound, it doesn't mean that the song can't resonate with people and countries all over the world. Unfortunately, because in 1977 it was pre-MTV and pre-U-tube and computers, the only way a song could become a hit and heard was on the radio. It meant that even Beatle/Paul fans in the US never heard it. You had to be an obsessed fan like me to find (and buy) it. To this day, I still believe that Mull would have been a big hit if it was the A-side upon it's release. My point in the earlier post is that Paul never helped make Mull of Kintyre known to US public despite playing in venues all over the 48 states for many years. When you see a U-tube clip of Mull of Kintyre played live in Canada it gives you goose bumps. Unfortunately the million of US fans seeing Paul in person in the US have never had that live experience. To me, that is a shame. Mull of Kintyre is one of Paul greatest solo songs in my opinion.
B.J., many thanx for your very interesting eloquent response to my post--will read it all Friday when I get more time, am about to have to get off the puter, presently