Set List critique
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oobu24 wrote:
mr.flamingpie wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
IMO the majority is glad that he's still on tour! BUT this is the first tour he opens again with the same opener he did the tour before. He named it "freshen up" released recently a very sucessful new album but performed only 3 songs from it. I could expand with lot's other argument (already written here from other fans) . The Point is it wasn't nessesary to rename to freshen up tour. For me it's nothing else than a simple marketing trick. Setlist changes for US Tour 2005, Up and coming Tour 2010 or Out There 2013 were steps in the right direction. This setlist is a disillusionment!
How true.
Ditto.
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With the lyrics of nearly 40 songs to sing ( and to play), I do think its asking a lot of this 76 year old to suddenly start dropping and adding too many songs. In the main now I think Paul performs almost on auto-pilot and its quite understandable that he feels comfortable sticking to songs that's he's performed so many times before. Just adding half a dozen new songs is asking a lot of him. Also, I don't think he wants to spend too long rehearsing. For the Wings 1975 / 1976 world tour, they were rehearsing between May through to September 1975. There's no way Paul is going to spend nearly five months rehearsing these days. Now its all about getting away with making the least amount of changes as possible.
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To play songs like She loves you-I wanna hold your hand or another couple from new album is not useful months of rehearsals..
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corchians wrote:
To play songs like She loves you-I wanna hold your hand or another couple from new album is not useful months of rehearsals..
That's exactly my point. A half a dozen new songs and getting familiar with the main set of songs doesn't take long to rehearse. But I get the impression that some fans would like to see a fairly significant change to the main setlist of recent years and that would take a lot more rehearsal time . The setlist between the 1972 'Wings Over Europe' tour and the '1975/76 world tour' three years later changed beyond all recognition. But Paul was only in his early 30's then. Now,he's well over double that age and it just isn't easy for him anymore to learn so many new songs from scratch.
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Kestrel wrote:
With the lyrics of nearly 40 songs to sing ( and to play), I do think its asking a lot of this 76 year old to suddenly start dropping and adding too many songs. In the main now I think Paul performs almost on auto-pilot and its quite understandable that he feels comfortable sticking to songs that's he's performed so many times before. Just adding half a dozen new songs is asking a lot of him. Also, I don't think he wants to spend too long rehearsing. For the Wings 1975 / 1976 world tour, they were rehearsing between May through to September 1975. There's no way Paul is going to spend nearly five months rehearsing these days. Now its all about getting away with making the least amount of changes as possible.
But then why change the name of the tour? ESPECIALLY to Freshen Up.
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Some thoughts about last nights set list; I was thinking Paul would change it around a bit more, I know a complete overhaul will never happen now, when was the last time he played in Canada? I'm going to the Paris concert and he last played there in 2016 with the majority of songs played last night so the question is will we get a few more changes as the tour progresses?
Don't see why he's still sticking AHDN as opener when there are plenty of others to choose from and keeping Queenie eye and fourfive seconds in the set seems a bit odd.
On a positive note he has added the horn section and I havent heard him sing 'Let em in' and 'From me to you' before
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johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
I just think that Paul should expand the setlist a little to include more of his solo songs. How is it a bad thing for him to include MORE of his solo songs so that folks can a get a better idea of his catalogue?
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johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
Real simple. People like me moan because he has critically acclaimed album that is #1 in the US and he plays just three songs from it. Do you think that his audience would have cared if he did not play "45 seconds" and "In Spite Of All Danger" and replaced it with two really good songs from "Egypt Station". Isn't part of the reason you go on tour is to promote your new album and play a bunch of it.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
Real simple. People like me moan because he has critically acclaimed album that is #1 in the US and he plays just three songs from it. Do you think that his audience would have cared if he did not play "45 seconds" and "In Spite Of All Danger" and replaced it with two really good songs from "Egypt Station". Isn't part of the reason you go on tour is to promote your new album and play a bunch of it.
exactly
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First of all, it's not a freshed up set list.
Second of all, the set list is great.
Third, it's bacially a One On One show.
I would personally like to have 4/5 Seconds dropped. It would have been cool to do once or for 6 months. So many better songs Paul actually wrote.
It's kinda cool and surprising Queenie Eye is still in the set list. A song from an album that isn't his most current, plus it rocks live and is trippy as hell.
Was "My Valentine" the version from the Grand Central Station show? If so, that's cool.
Was "Letting Go" the same as the Grand Central Station show with the horn part at the end? if so, that's cool.
In Spite Of All The Danger should go out. Replace it with When I'm 64. He played a bit of it on Carpool Kareoke.
Glad Mr. Kite stayed in.
A Hard Days Night was great. Would love to see Help! as an opener.
I've always thought Young Boy would be a great second song.
Should have called it, "Ain't Broke, Not Fixing It" tour. Freshen Up it is not.
I'll still go and trip mad balls. It's PAUL!!!
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johnnymain wrote:
mr.flamingpie wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
IMO the majority is glad that he's still on tour! BUT this is the first tour he opens again with the same opener he did the tour before. He named it "freshen up" released recently a very sucessful new album but performed only 3 songs from it. I could expand with lot's other argument (already written here from other fans) . The Point is it wasn't nessesary to rename to freshen up tour. For me it's nothing else than a simple marketing trick. Setlist changes for US Tour 2005, Up and coming Tour 2010 or Out There 2013 were steps in the right direction. This setlist is a disillusionment!
This is a new opening number as far as the UK are concerned - but remember we're not as lucky as the US and only see him twice a decade if we're lucky.
Of course it's a "marketing trick" though, because people who've never seen him live before will want to see the hits and the classics, and Paul himself is fully aware that when he plays new songs, the audience aren't quite as engaged as they are for the older songs.
He was never going to play six or seven new numbers in a million years, and everyone knew that before last night.
Why not?. He played 6 songs from FITD when he toured in 1989 and 6 songs from OTG in 1993.
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Macca84 wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
mr.flamingpie wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
IMO the majority is glad that he's still on tour! BUT this is the first tour he opens again with the same opener he did the tour before. He named it "freshen up" released recently a very sucessful new album but performed only 3 songs from it. I could expand with lot's other argument (already written here from other fans) . The Point is it wasn't nessesary to rename to freshen up tour. For me it's nothing else than a simple marketing trick. Setlist changes for US Tour 2005, Up and coming Tour 2010 or Out There 2013 were steps in the right direction. This setlist is a disillusionment!
This is a new opening number as far as the UK are concerned - but remember we're not as lucky as the US and only see him twice a decade if we're lucky.
Of course it's a "marketing trick" though, because people who've never seen him live before will want to see the hits and the classics, and Paul himself is fully aware that when he plays new songs, the audience aren't quite as engaged as they are for the older songs.
He was never going to play six or seven new numbers in a million years, and everyone knew that before last night.
But that’s not true- he is already playing 6 songs written in the last 7 years. It’s just that he left us with My Valentine (which had never gone over well with the audience) Queenie Eye (has been played lots over last three years) and 4/5 (which is embarrassing to hear from him)
none of those songs are being demanded by the “Beatle Paul” fans. So, why not change them to all Egypt Station? Laziness that’s why.
4/5 is really embarassing because he played such a minor role in the song and IMO it sucks.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Macca84 wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
mr.flamingpie wrote:
johnnymain wrote:
As suspected, the set list moaners are back - did you really think he was going to radically change the set list?
Why can't people just be glad that he's still touring at all?
IMO the majority is glad that he's still on tour! BUT this is the first tour he opens again with the same opener he did the tour before. He named it "freshen up" released recently a very sucessful new album but performed only 3 songs from it. I could expand with lot's other argument (already written here from other fans) . The Point is it wasn't nessesary to rename to freshen up tour. For me it's nothing else than a simple marketing trick. Setlist changes for US Tour 2005, Up and coming Tour 2010 or Out There 2013 were steps in the right direction. This setlist is a disillusionment!
This is a new opening number as far as the UK are concerned - but remember we're not as lucky as the US and only see him twice a decade if we're lucky.
Of course it's a "marketing trick" though, because people who've never seen him live before will want to see the hits and the classics, and Paul himself is fully aware that when he plays new songs, the audience aren't quite as engaged as they are for the older songs.
He was never going to play six or seven new numbers in a million years, and everyone knew that before last night.
But that’s not true- he is already playing 6 songs written in the last 7 years. It’s just that he left us with My Valentine (which had never gone over well with the audience) Queenie Eye (has been played lots over last three years) and 4/5 (which is embarrassing to hear from him)
none of those songs are being demanded by the “Beatle Paul” fans. So, why not change them to all Egypt Station? Laziness that’s why.
4/5 is really embarassing because he played such a minor role in the song and IMO it sucks.
I have to agree with you. And why the heck is he still doing Queenie Eye? Do another new song from ES, ffs!!
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I like that he's still playing Queenie Eye.
Most of the times, when a new album came out, the one before it would be out of the setlist forever. At least he is still acknowledging New. Every time a new release is out, we got new fans of Paul coming to the shows. Some of them are discovering his solo career now, and when they'll be at the concert, will got the chance to hear a song from New, even its not his latest record.
I discovered The Beatles, and then Paul's solo career after The Beatles 09 Remasters, then went to the 'Up and Coming' tour and was expecting to hear at least one from Chaos and Creation, my favourite then.
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Someone pointed out Paul had not played Canada in quite a while, hence the setlist being like it is, they said. The setlist would be new and fresh in Canada due to not being heard there in so long. Something like that.
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
Someone pointed out Paul had not played Canada in quite a while, hence the setlist being like it is, they said. The setlist would be new and fresh in Canada due to not being heard there in so long. Something like that.
I think everybody expected the main part of the show to be very much the same, it is just the lack of Egypt Station songs especially with the commercial success of the album. In addition, he has played more songs from his current album on other tours so it was surprising that he did not do more.
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The reason might be as simple as Paul feels he and the band haven't yet rehearsed certain Egypt Station songs enough to perform as of now, in concert. And they're working on that !
It might be interesting if he features three of his "horny songs" in a row--"Hi Hi Hi" and then "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You." The "naughty" part of the show, LOL. Or even more of them right after each other..."Helter Skelter," "Rough Ride" which some listeners interpret as horny, "Girl" with tit tit tit in the background, "Honey Pie" and "Wild Honey Pie," and "Penny Lane" with the words "fish and finger pie" (blush), "Happiness is A Warm Gun," etc., although that last one is John's. The audience will have to take a cold shower afterwards
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Why wouldn’t he play “I Don’t Know”?
its a great song from the new album, Paul himself said it was his favourite and would fit nicely into the piano set.
and it was also released as a single!
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
The reason might be as simple as Paul feels he and the band haven't yet rehearsed certain Egypt Station songs enough to perform as of now, in concert. And they're working on that !
It might be interesting if he features three of his "horny songs" in a row--"Hi Hi Hi" and then "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You." The "naughty" part of the show, LOL. Or even more of them right after each other..."Helter Skelter," "Rough Ride" which some listeners interpret as horny, "Girl" with tit tit tit in the background, "Honey Pie" and "Wild Honey Pie," and "Penny Lane" with the words "fish and finger pie" (blush), "Happiness is A Warm Gun," etc., although that last one is John's. The audience will have to take a cold shower afterwards
Not forgetting Why don't we do it in the road
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andybefc wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
The reason might be as simple as Paul feels he and the band haven't yet rehearsed certain Egypt Station songs enough to perform as of now, in concert. And they're working on that !
It might be interesting if he features three of his "horny songs" in a row--"Hi Hi Hi" and then "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You." The "naughty" part of the show, LOL. Or even more of them right after each other..."Helter Skelter," "Rough Ride" which some listeners interpret as horny, "Girl" with tit tit tit in the background, "Honey Pie" and "Wild Honey Pie," and "Penny Lane" with the words "fish and finger pie" (blush), "Happiness is A Warm Gun," etc., although that last one is John's. The audience will have to take a cold shower afterwards
Not forgetting Why don't we do it in the road
Absolutely ! That's the most obvious one (laughs) and I forgot it...oops