Set List critique
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Maybe once the Out There tour is over he will keep just one song from the latest album and replace the other ones with interesting rarities for the following (2015 or 2016) tour?
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Look, we have to abandon this notion that if only Paul played more songs, people would buy his new material. He has been touring the US all summer, playing 4 strong songs at each stop and NEW hasn't re-entered the charts at all, right? Hundreds of thousands of people have seen him just this summer and nothing in the charts.
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audi:
"Get Me Out Of Here" is a great possible tour-name but, possibly, too much of a mixed message for some. "On My Way To Work" is another great one. A name-change would definitely raise our expectations for some additional NEW songs for the show. But how much would the show actually change? (I haven't been critical of our boy for a solid two weeks, so please indulge me this lil' rant.) We're talking about someone who is not even selling his latest album at his shows. We're talking about someone who could've had one of the most talked-about Grammy and/or iHeartRadio sets by performing with Bloody Beetroots one a recent single AND the Sound City Band on another (and Grammy-winning) relatively recent single. Critics said that Macca opening his '89/'90 shows with "Figure OF Eight" was quintessentially "anti-climactic.." That's debatable. But, for the iHeartRadio gig, opening with "Magical Mystery Tour" (again) was beyond anti-climactic; it was a compromise that reinforced the man's complete lack of faith in his current music like never before. OK -- so "From A Lover To A Friend" and "Lonely Road" didn't quite bring down the house at the Concert for NYC in 2001. I think he chose the wrong songs, with the exception of "Freedom," which was -- like it or not -- a crowd pleaser. Despite that, I wonder if Paul was scarred by that night -- because it is commonly agreed that The Who stole the show. But all they did were their signature songs. I can live with Macca's unrelenting dedication (if not reliance) to The Beatles, but the consequence is a series of missed opportunities. Props to him for calling out the Albany crowd for feigning interest in the new songs, though. In the end, I think they liked what they heard.
IMO - Mr. McCartney has horrible judgement on things from the singles he chooses and his set list. The Concert For NY is the one time he should have just played the Beatle hits, it was not the event to introduce new music.
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yankeefan7:
audi:
"Get Me Out Of Here" is a great possible tour-name but, possibly, too much of a mixed message for some. "On My Way To Work" is another great one. A name-change would definitely raise our expectations for some additional NEW songs for the show. But how much would the show actually change? (I haven't been critical of our boy for a solid two weeks, so please indulge me this lil' rant.) We're talking about someone who is not even selling his latest album at his shows. We're talking about someone who could've had one of the most talked-about Grammy and/or iHeartRadio sets by performing with Bloody Beetroots one a recent single AND the Sound City Band on another (and Grammy-winning) relatively recent single. Critics said that Macca opening his '89/'90 shows with "Figure OF Eight" was quintessentially "anti-climactic.." That's debatable. But, for the iHeartRadio gig, opening with "Magical Mystery Tour" (again) was beyond anti-climactic; it was a compromise that reinforced the man's complete lack of faith in his current music like never before. OK -- so "From A Lover To A Friend" and "Lonely Road" didn't quite bring down the house at the Concert for NYC in 2001. I think he chose the wrong songs, with the exception of "Freedom," which was -- like it or not -- a crowd pleaser. Despite that, I wonder if Paul was scarred by that night -- because it is commonly agreed that The Who stole the show. But all they did were their signature songs. I can live with Macca's unrelenting dedication (if not reliance) to The Beatles, but the consequence is a series of missed opportunities. Props to him for calling out the Albany crowd for feigning interest in the new songs, though. In the end, I think they liked what they heard.
IMO - Mr. McCartney has horrible judgement on things from the singles he chooses and his set list. The Concert For NY is the one time he should have just played the Beatle hits, it was not the event to introduce new music.
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KingMacca:
yankeefan7:
audi:
"Get Me Out Of Here" is a great possible tour-name but, possibly, too much of a mixed message for some. "On My Way To Work" is another great one. A name-change would definitely raise our expectations for some additional NEW songs for the show. But how much would the show actually change? (I haven't been critical of our boy for a solid two weeks, so please indulge me this lil' rant.) We're talking about someone who is not even selling his latest album at his shows. We're talking about someone who could've had one of the most talked-about Grammy and/or iHeartRadio sets by performing with Bloody Beetroots one a recent single AND the Sound City Band on another (and Grammy-winning) relatively recent single. Critics said that Macca opening his '89/'90 shows with "Figure OF Eight" was quintessentially "anti-climactic.." That's debatable. But, for the iHeartRadio gig, opening with "Magical Mystery Tour" (again) was beyond anti-climactic; it was a compromise that reinforced the man's complete lack of faith in his current music like never before. OK -- so "From A Lover To A Friend" and "Lonely Road" didn't quite bring down the house at the Concert for NYC in 2001. I think he chose the wrong songs, with the exception of "Freedom," which was -- like it or not -- a crowd pleaser. Despite that, I wonder if Paul was scarred by that night -- because it is commonly agreed that The Who stole the show. But all they did were their signature songs. I can live with Macca's unrelenting dedication (if not reliance) to The Beatles, but the consequence is a series of missed opportunities. Props to him for calling out the Albany crowd for feigning interest in the new songs, though. In the end, I think they liked what they heard.
IMO - Mr. McCartney has horrible judgement on things from the singles he chooses and his set list. The Concert For NY is the one time he should have just played the Beatle hits, it was not the event to introduce new music.
This only proves the point that no matter what Paul chooses to play, he can't win! Having been at the Concert For New York City, I was thrilled hearing his "brand new music" (along with some of his "regulars"). When he does, critics say he should have played the hits like the Who. I'm sure remarks like that remain with Paul today...thus the "Beatle heavy" set list the past several tours.
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oobu24:
favoritething:
oobu24:
audi:
WixRocks!:
5th-beatle:
WixRocks!:
Understood. I'd like to think there'll be change. But I'm pretty certain this'll still be the Out There Tour.
He's got such a great album to promote that I won't be surprised if he decides to keep the Out There tour throughout 2015. It's a strong setlist, especially for those who have not been able to experience it yet, which is a lot of people in Europe, UK, Australia and many other countries.
...that's not really what this is about. It's a little bit sad, but a little bit not....because we can all remember the first time we were there.
For me, my 2010 experience was ten times more thrilling than both my 1993 and 2009 concerts COMBINED! But Bonnaroo 2013 wasn't so magical as -- even after driving five hours -- the St. Louis concert the previous year. For one thing, it was his first show in America that year, so I had no prejudices from setlist-spoilers. The surprising songs were actually "Birthday" and "Maybe I'm Amazed." Go figure. It is definitely possible to re-live that "first time" magic, even at your third or fourth Paul McCartney show.
Of course it is still magical when you are there in the audience & all caught up in the moment. But then you realize that he could be showing some of the Beatle people who he is now. And they may like it. And they may buy some of his NEW stuff! It is always GREAT... It's just that it could be so much better.
But it seems most people going to his shows don't really want to hear new stuff. Even on this board, there isn't universal excitement over his new album, so if WE can't be united in that, imagine what average people think. Most people look at Paul to relive their youth, and that involves the songs he plays the most. If you interview fans waiting outside the arena and ask them what they want him to play, they won't say "Take It Away" or "I hope he challenges me with something I've never heard before!" They'll say "Band On The Run" or "Hey Jude" or "Yesterday." And Paul knows this. I do think it's silly not to sell the CD at his shows, though. If he's going to play new songs, there should be a way for people to get it.... although, of course, they could easily download it on their phones as they're standing there, too!!
Yes, and we have been over this many times. It is because of Paul selling himself short. They don't know the new stuff (or not so new) so how could they possibly request it? I really don't care what they request...I just think the setlist could be more equalized. Otherwise it's just a Beatles review.
Haha, yes, and I'm sure we'll go over it many more times!
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DrivinFan:
KingMacca:
yankeefan7:
audi:
"Get Me Out Of Here" is a great possible tour-name but, possibly, too much of a mixed message for some. "On My Way To Work" is another great one. A name-change would definitely raise our expectations for some additional NEW songs for the show. But how much would the show actually change? (I haven't been critical of our boy for a solid two weeks, so please indulge me this lil' rant.) We're talking about someone who is not even selling his latest album at his shows. We're talking about someone who could've had one of the most talked-about Grammy and/or iHeartRadio sets by performing with Bloody Beetroots one a recent single AND the Sound City Band on another (and Grammy-winning) relatively recent single. Critics said that Macca opening his '89/'90 shows with "Figure OF Eight" was quintessentially "anti-climactic.." That's debatable. But, for the iHeartRadio gig, opening with "Magical Mystery Tour" (again) was beyond anti-climactic; it was a compromise that reinforced the man's complete lack of faith in his current music like never before. OK -- so "From A Lover To A Friend" and "Lonely Road" didn't quite bring down the house at the Concert for NYC in 2001. I think he chose the wrong songs, with the exception of "Freedom," which was -- like it or not -- a crowd pleaser. Despite that, I wonder if Paul was scarred by that night -- because it is commonly agreed that The Who stole the show. But all they did were their signature songs. I can live with Macca's unrelenting dedication (if not reliance) to The Beatles, but the consequence is a series of missed opportunities. Props to him for calling out the Albany crowd for feigning interest in the new songs, though. In the end, I think they liked what they heard.
IMO - Mr. McCartney has horrible judgement on things from the singles he chooses and his set list. The Concert For NY is the one time he should have just played the Beatle hits, it was not the event to introduce new music.
This only proves the point that no matter what Paul chooses to play, he can't win! Having been at the Concert For New York City, I was thrilled hearing his "brand new music" (along with some of his "regulars"). When he does, critics say he should have played the hits like the Who. I'm sure remarks like that remain with Paul today...thus the "Beatle heavy" set list the past several tours.
IMO - The big difference is the Concert For NY was supposed to be uplifting after a tragic event to this country and Mr. McCartney was the headline act. During a regular tour, then you express yourself as an artist and play songs throughout your entire career.
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Just how do we know that people don't know these songs, I see some post this all the time, but how does someone know that people don't know the songs? I mean after all, someone did buy those albums. As I said, more and more people are asking McCartney to perform more of his Wings/solo material. McCartney should just perform the songs, It would be a thrill for him and the crowds, people are asking why he doesn't perform more of that material. As for the NYC concert, McCartney didn't even really have a band!
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Everyone in Pittsburgh was VERY responsive to all four of the NEW tracks....I don't know where people have been saying they don't like them, because they ROCK live!
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The songs from NEW got a great reaction from the audiences in South America as well. Many people knew the lyrics and were singing along. I'm sure that if he decides to add one or two more songs from his new album, people from all countries will enjoy those too.
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left hand man:
... As for the NYC concert, McCartney didn't even really have a band!
Sure he did...the same band that Paul had on the Driving Rain LP. They actually performed at a benefit show earlier that year in L.A.
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WixRocks!:
Everyone in Pittsburgh was VERY responsive to all four of the NEW tracks....I don't know where people have been saying they don't like them, because they ROCK live!
...as were the five NEW tracks in Albany!
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yankeefan7:
DrivinFan:
KingMacca:
yankeefan7:
audi:
"Get Me Out Of Here" is a great possible tour-name but, possibly, too much of a mixed message for some. "On My Way To Work" is another great one. A name-change would definitely raise our expectations for some additional NEW songs for the show. But how much would the show actually change? (I haven't been critical of our boy for a solid two weeks, so please indulge me this lil' rant.) We're talking about someone who is not even selling his latest album at his shows. We're talking about someone who could've had one of the most talked-about Grammy and/or iHeartRadio sets by performing with Bloody Beetroots one a recent single AND the Sound City Band on another (and Grammy-winning) relatively recent single. Critics said that Macca opening his '89/'90 shows with "Figure OF Eight" was quintessentially "anti-climactic.." That's debatable. But, for the iHeartRadio gig, opening with "Magical Mystery Tour" (again) was beyond anti-climactic; it was a compromise that reinforced the man's complete lack of faith in his current music like never before. OK -- so "From A Lover To A Friend" and "Lonely Road" didn't quite bring down the house at the Concert for NYC in 2001. I think he chose the wrong songs, with the exception of "Freedom," which was -- like it or not -- a crowd pleaser. Despite that, I wonder if Paul was scarred by that night -- because it is commonly agreed that The Who stole the show. But all they did were their signature songs. I can live with Macca's unrelenting dedication (if not reliance) to The Beatles, but the consequence is a series of missed opportunities. Props to him for calling out the Albany crowd for feigning interest in the new songs, though. In the end, I think they liked what they heard.
IMO - Mr. McCartney has horrible judgement on things from the singles he chooses and his set list. The Concert For NY is the one time he should have just played the Beatle hits, it was not the event to introduce new music.
This only proves the point that no matter what Paul chooses to play, he can't win! Having been at the Concert For New York City, I was thrilled hearing his "brand new music" (along with some of his "regulars"). When he does, critics say he should have played the hits like the Who. I'm sure remarks like that remain with Paul today...thus the "Beatle heavy" set list the past several tours.
IMO - The big difference is the Concert For NY was supposed to be uplifting after a tragic event to this country and Mr. McCartney was the headline act. During a regular tour, then you express yourself as an artist and play songs throughout your entire career.
yep...I agree.
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He should write a song called "Setlist" and then not include it in his concerts.
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5th-beatle:
He should write a song called "Setlist" and then not include it in his concerts.
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If the song from the Destiny videogame has lyrics, it could be an interesting one to perform live. At least he would have a new story to tell onstage.
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5th-beatle:
If the song from the Destiny videogame has lyrics, it could be an interesting one to perform live. At least he would have a new story to tell onstage.
Yeah... that's probably not gonna happen.
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Sgt._Pepper:
Yeah... that's probably not gonna happen.
We live in hope...
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5th-beatle:
Sgt._Pepper:
Yeah... that's probably not gonna happen.
We live in hope...
of Deliverance
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5th-beatle:
If the song from the Destiny videogame has lyrics, it could be an interesting one to perform live. At least he would have a new story to tell onstage.
I can just see it now: " Not many people know it but George was a great video game player. I used to to to his house and , after dinner, he'd get the video console out..."