Set List critique
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Don't get the fascination with Grohl.
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moptops:
Don't get the fascination with Grohl.
Maybe just so that he is (Paul) more current & rocks out a bit?
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I really like the version of "Band On The Run" performed by Dave Grohl and Paul's band at the White House. Very rocking!
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thenightfish:
DrivinFan:
moptops:
If Paul, his band or coterie reads this... ...how about SHE'S A WOMAN at Candlestick Park? PLEASE! SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR SPECIAL TO MARK THE EVENT!!!
I'm sure he'll do something "special" for Candlestick..."She's A Woman", "Long Tall Sally"...wish I was going!
I would hope he adds something besides "San Francisco Bay Blues" but he is already doing 3 songs that were part of the 1966 setlist - "Yesterday" "Day Tripper" and "Paperback Writer." So entirely possible he won't add anything else. I always go in with very low expectations when it comes to Paul and setlist changes.
I guarantee he will do "San Francisco Bay Blues." It's very near and dear to him.
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LOL...near and dear to Shelley.
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moptops:
LOL...near and dear to Shelley.
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With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
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My Salamander:
With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
If history is of any use, it tells us that Paul has completely ignored the remasters in regards to tailoring his show in anyway whatsoever around them.
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Didnt someone report that Silly Love songs was rehearsed in South America earlier this year? I dont think it will happen but I have a feeling its not as far fetched as some of you think.
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...and did we determine if Paul soundchecked Monkberry Moon Delight, or was that prived false?
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moptops:
...and did we determine if Paul soundchecked Monkberry Moon Delight, or was that prived false?
I think that was false.
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WixRocks!:
My Salamander:
With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
If history is of any use, it tells us that Paul has completely ignored the remasters in regards to tailoring his show in anyway whatsoever around them.
Well, Wings Over America did help the 2013 version of "Out There".
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KingMacca:
WixRocks!:
My Salamander:
With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
If history is of any use, it tells us that Paul has completely ignored the remasters in regards to tailoring his show in anyway whatsoever around them.
Well, Wings Over America did help the 2013 version of "Out There".
How so?
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WixRocks!:
KingMacca:
WixRocks!:
My Salamander:
With the At The Speed Of Sound remaster hitting in September wonder if by some miracle Paul might shock everyone in the 2nd leg of the tour by getting out the Rickenbacker for just one song - Silly Love Songs. If he did that (even with no other changes in the setlist), it would be truly mindblowing I don't think he realizes how incredible that would be as surprise in the set list. We can only dare to wish and dream on that one!!
If history is of any use, it tells us that Paul has completely ignored the remasters in regards to tailoring his show in anyway whatsoever around them.
Well, Wings Over America did help the 2013 version of "Out There".
How so?
Hi Hi Hi, Man Said...
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yankeefan7:
favoritething:
I think our best chance for Paul doing deep cuts is one of those intimate things like "Unplugged" or "Chaos and Creation at Abbey Road." But still, you've got to realize that he isn't just gonna pull these old songs out of the back of his head and just play them. First, he's got to have the idea to do it (which occasionally has come from his band), then the feeling that HE would enjoy doing it, then decide if there are enough people in the audience that would WANT him to do it, then RE-learn how to play it, then come up with an arrangement that this band can play (like, would Rusty re-create David Gilmour's guitar solo in "No More Lonely Nights"? Would Wix's keyboards sound convincing enough for the horns in "Take It Away"?). Paul would want it to sound pretty darn awesome and blow everyone away; I don't think he'd be satisfied with a few hearty cheers from one little corner of the arena. Having said all that, it's definitely the acoustic guitar set where he seems to have the most leverage just kind of busking, because the focus on him becomes so intense that anything he does carries that much more weight (so to speak!), and only HE has to learn the song, not the band. I remember his obvious surprise at the roars of approval for "I Will," for one thing. But still: Beatles song, not solo. He's very cautious.
Why not try "Little Willow" for the acoustic set?
_________________________________________________________ Just want to comment on Paul's RS quote on "changing up" the Setlist. His answer about when he was a kid and going to concerts and wanting to hear the "hits" was a convenient answer but in my opinion, not anything close to the "real" answer. I believe the answer is a combination of things. Favorite Thing above hit on part of it. I blieve the real answer is a combination of: *his age *his love of being the Beatles ambassador *his perfectionism *the amount of work it would take. Favorite Thing is right. It would take a lot of work to do a significant setlist overall...with him and the Band. At his age, I don't think Paul wants to do it (And I don't necessarily blame him). This is why I have said in other posts that Paul should have been doing this in small doses as soon as he came back touring in the Driving Rain tour. I recently listened to Paul and the Band's Driving Rain live songs and Paul's voice was very strong at that point. To my ears, the Driving Rain songs (4 of them I believe) all sounded better on that tour than the studio versions. Go to U-tube and listen to his live redention of "Your Loving Flame". At that tour Paul should have taken a few Beatles/Wings songs out and included 3-4 songs (i.e. Flaming Pie, Flowers in the Dirt etc.)Each tour after Driving Rain, he could have added another 3-4 solo songs (on top of the current album he was promoting. This would have given the overall Setlist the kind of balance we are all talking about. I get it that the majority of songs have to be Beatles but I think it has hurt Paul that he hasn't given his Solo Career the kind of value that it deserves. At 72, I think he is too old to start. As I mentioned above, Paul is a perfectionist and loves the adoration. He can now do most of the Beatle songs in his sleep. No work involved and he puts on an amazing show for 1st or 2nd timers. At the kind of prices that major concerts cost today, he is giving the Beatle Paul fans (the overwhelming majority of the crowd) what they wanted and that is Paul's goal. I think this is another reason that they are doing more of the secondary markets on this tour. In those places, almost all the people are first timers. I thought that since Paul had about 10 days off from Kansas City to tomorrow's show at Target Field that we might get changes in the Setlist (plenty of time for rehearsals) but I don't believe we are going to get any changes. Again, this would take work but I see that Paul was doing a whole variety of things during the time off. I'm not knocking Paul here but it is just his personality. I think it is great that Paul has continuously toured in his 60's and now early 70's. People in so many places around the world have had the opportunity to see an actual Beatle. Yoko should kiss the ground where Paul walks. He and Ringo have been true ambassadors to the greatest musical force of the last 50 years. Unfortunately, Paul's very underrated Solo career has not benefitted from all these tours.
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Look how effortlessly Paul and his band play the NEW songs. I honestly don't think it would be hard work at all. However, I do think you're right about the ambassador thing, though.
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Beatle songs is where the money is. Period.
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audi:
Look how effortlessly Paul and his band play the NEW songs. I honestly don't think it would be hard work at all. However, I do think you're right about the ambassador thing, though.
I agree, how hard would it be for a rock legend and his band who have played together for a dozen years to "learn" some new songs.
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B J Conlee:
yankeefan7:
favoritething:
I think our best chance for Paul doing deep cuts is one of those intimate things like "Unplugged" or "Chaos and Creation at Abbey Road." But still, you've got to realize that he isn't just gonna pull these old songs out of the back of his head and just play them. First, he's got to have the idea to do it (which occasionally has come from his band), then the feeling that HE would enjoy doing it, then decide if there are enough people in the audience that would WANT him to do it, then RE-learn how to play it, then come up with an arrangement that this band can play (like, would Rusty re-create David Gilmour's guitar solo in "No More Lonely Nights"? Would Wix's keyboards sound convincing enough for the horns in "Take It Away"?). Paul would want it to sound pretty darn awesome and blow everyone away; I don't think he'd be satisfied with a few hearty cheers from one little corner of the arena. Having said all that, it's definitely the acoustic guitar set where he seems to have the most leverage just kind of busking, because the focus on him becomes so intense that anything he does carries that much more weight (so to speak!), and only HE has to learn the song, not the band. I remember his obvious surprise at the roars of approval for "I Will," for one thing. But still: Beatles song, not solo. He's very cautious.
Why not try "Little Willow" for the acoustic set?
_________________________________________________________ Just want to comment on Paul's RS quote on "changing up" the Setlist. His answer about when he was a kid and going to concerts and wanting to hear the "hits" was a convenient answer but in my opinion, not anything close to the "real" answer. I believe the answer is a combination of things. Favorite Thing above hit on part of it. I blieve the real answer is a combination of: *his age *his love of being the Beatles ambassador *his perfectionism *the amount of work it would take. Favorite Thing is right. It would take a lot of work to do a significant setlist overall...with him and the Band. At his age, I don't think Paul wants to do it (And I don't necessarily blame him). This is why I have said in other posts that Paul should have been doing this in small doses as soon as he came back touring in the Driving Rain tour. I recently listened to Paul and the Band's Driving Rain live songs and Paul's voice was very strong at that point. To my ears, the Driving Rain songs (4 of them I believe) all sounded better on that tour than the studio versions. Go to U-tube and listen to his live redention of "Your Loving Flame". At that tour Paul should have taken a few Beatles/Wings songs out and included 3-4 songs (i.e. Flaming Pie, Flowers in the Dirt etc.)Each tour after Driving Rain, he could have added another 3-4 solo songs (on top of the current album he was promoting. This would have given the overall Setlist the kind of balance we are all talking about. I get it that the majority of songs have to be Beatles but I think it has hurt Paul that he hasn't given his Solo Career the kind of value that it deserves. At 72, I think he is too old to start. As I mentioned above, Paul is a perfectionist and loves the adoration. He can now do most of the Beatle songs in his sleep. No work involved and he puts on an amazing show for 1st or 2nd timers. At the kind of prices that major concerts cost today, he is giving the Beatle Paul fans (the overwhelming majority of the crowd) what they wanted and that is Paul's goal. I think this is another reason that they are doing more of the secondary markets on this tour. In those places, almost all the people are first timers. I thought that since Paul had about 10 days off from Kansas City to tomorrow's show at Target Field that we might get changes in the Setlist (plenty of time for rehearsals) but I don't believe we are going to get any changes. Again, this would take work but I see that Paul was doing a whole variety of things during the time off. I'm not knocking Paul here but it is just his personality. I think it is great that Paul has continuously toured in his 60's and now early 70's. People in so many places around the world have had the opportunity to see an actual Beatle. Yoko should kiss the ground where Paul walks. He and Ringo have been true ambassadors to the greatest musical force of the last 50 years. Unfortunately, Paul's very underrated Solo career has not benefitted from all these tours.
Excellent post. IMO - his band seems to go through the motions on most of the Beatle and Wings songs. Look at youtube clips when they do "New" songs and they definitely seem more "into" it.
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yankeefan7:
audi:
Look how effortlessly Paul and his band play the NEW songs. I honestly don't think it would be hard work at all. However, I do think you're right about the ambassador thing, though.
I agree, how hard would it be for a rock legend and his band who have played together for a dozen years to "learn" some new songs.
Really. It's enough to make ya cry. I mentioned something about David Bowie to my husband & he says that our local radio plays all kinds of Bowie. I asked what about Paul? He says not so much...at all really. Maybe Band on the Run. : Just the way Paul wants it. If he doesn't promote his songs from the last couple decades why should radio be playing them?