The Official Football/Soccer Thread: 2017-2018 Season
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Do you follow the sport much at club level? football is not a sport - see later answers Which league(s) do you tend to keep up with the most? premier and Irish League What club(s) do you support? LIVERPOOL What club(s) do you hate the most? Blueshite Favorite players, past or present Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Roy McFarland, Kevin Hector, Alan Hinton, Sir Roger, Peter Thompson, Stevie Heighway, Sourness, Tommy Smith, Bestie, Gordon Banks, Pat Jennings, KING KENNY, Robbie Fowler, Gerrard.
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So, is there going to be a predictions game for the EURO 2008 qualifyers? I just discovered that Turkey and Greece are in one group. Also, in most groups there are 3 strong teams but only 2 will qualify. I'm preparing for a lot of drama and tragedy. Hopefully, the new Bundestrainer Jogi Löw will have enough peace to continue the great work.
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Materrazzi provoked Zidane as much as any other player can provoke any other player on the pitch. They swear at one other as a rule. It's quite normal for footballers to kick one another and swear at one another. Zidane is a beloved and idolised superstar and his fans are trying to justify his deed. If it had been any other player to knock down Materrazzi there would be no fuss at all about it. What Zidane did was brutally foul Matterazzi and that's all there is to it. Besides, its not the first time he did something like that. I know of at least two other fouls of the same type that Zidane has done on other players. Thanks
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so what materazi done was normal and good,but zidan was the bad guy ....he should insult back as this is the way good players respect each others professionally on world cup final "@##@ your mom you terrorist" "thank you same to you my friend ,our families are nothing worth respect " and there is no values at all,keep smiling ,all the world is watching but not hearing :
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Ammar:
so what materazi done was normal and good,but zidan was the bad guy ....he should insult back as this is the way good players respect each others professionally on world cup final "@##@ your mom you terrorist" "thank you same to you my friend ,our families are nothing worth respect " and there is no values at all,keep smiling ,all the world is watching but not hearing :
If I were Zidane I'd just keep my stiff upper lip, and shout back at Materrazzi : Fuck you you fucking macaroni face! Zidane was of a different idea though, he preferred to knock Materrazzi down in his last professional match, in a WC Final Game. Very professional indeed. And how clever!
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Pawel:
Ammar:
so what materazi done was normal and good,but zidan was the bad guy ....he should insult back as this is the way good players respect each others professionally on world cup final "@##@ your mom you terrorist" "thank you same to you my friend ,our families are nothing worth respect " and there is no values at all,keep smiling ,all the world is watching but not hearing :
If I were Zidane I'd just keep my stiff upper lip, and shout back at Materrazzi : f**k you you f**king macaroni face! Zidane was of a different idea though, he preferred to knock Materrazzi down in his last professional match, in a WC Final Game. Very professional indeed. And how clever!
so you will never admit that "Materwhat" did something wrong,that its just zidan fault ... well ,as long as you see it right to insult others(as you said you would) I think we don't have to see soccer anymore,cause the must professional players are just dirty s*@#$ ,something very related to what sport should be....not manners or respect or healthy competition...
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The way I see it, they were BOTH wrong at what they did. :
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Hey....the thread title has changed, does this mean this thread will stay? For future football games?
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Ammar:
Pawel:
Ammar:
so what materazi done was normal and good,but zidan was the bad guy ....he should insult back as this is the way good players respect each others professionally on world cup final "@##@ your mom you terrorist" "thank you same to you my friend ,our families are nothing worth respect " and there is no values at all,keep smiling ,all the world is watching but not hearing :
If I were Zidane I'd just keep my stiff upper lip, and shout back at Materrazzi : f**k you you f**king macaroni face! Zidane was of a different idea though, he preferred to knock Materrazzi down in his last professional match, in a WC Final Game. Very professional indeed. And how clever!
so you will never admit that "Materwhat" did something wrong,that its just zidan fault ... well ,as long as you see it right to insult others(as you said you would) I think we don't have to see soccer anymore,cause the must professional players are just dirty s*@#$ ,something very related to what sport should be....not manners or respect or healthy competition...
No, I don't approve of dirty s*@#$ and bad manners on the pitch or outside of it. I'm not saying "Materwhat" acted in a proper way, but it drives me mad to hear that Zizou is a victim in this case. He's no bloody victim! It was him who escalated the conflict. If I call you names will you instantly knock me down??? Or will you ignore me? Or possibly call me names too? Which option do you choose as a civilised person and a champion and idol for many? Evelien is right. Both are to blame, but I find it irritiating to hear that Materazzi's fault is bigger "because he provoked a great champion to go so low"
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vlivantje:
The way I see it, they were BOTH wrong at what they did. :
Pawel:
Evelien is right. Both are to blame
...and not one more than the other! Right! In any case, both players will face a verdict by the FIFA on July 20. I guess then we'll all see clearer!
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Sergeant_Pepper:
vlivantje:
The way I see it, they were BOTH wrong at what they did. :
Pawel:
Evelien is right. Both are to blame
...and not one more than the other! Right! In any case, both players will face a verdict by the FIFA on July 20. I guess then we'll all see clearer!
Hopefully the judges can stay impartial and unbiased by the highness of the devine Zizou Poland has a new coach. Leo Benhaker
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Pawel:
Ammar:
Pawel:
Ammar:
so what materazi done was normal and good,but zidan was the bad guy ....he should insult back as this is the way good players respect each others professionally on world cup final "@##@ your mom you terrorist" "thank you same to you my friend ,our families are nothing worth respect " and there is no values at all,keep smiling ,all the world is watching but not hearing :
If I were Zidane I'd just keep my stiff upper lip, and shout back at Materrazzi : f**k you you f**king macaroni face! Zidane was of a different idea though, he preferred to knock Materrazzi down in his last professional match, in a WC Final Game. Very professional indeed. And how clever!
so you will never admit that "Materwhat" did something wrong,that its just zidan fault ... well ,as long as you see it right to insult others(as you said you would) I think we don't have to see soccer anymore,cause the must professional players are just dirty s*@#$ ,something very related to what sport should be....not manners or respect or healthy competition...
No, I don't approve of dirty s*@#$ and bad manners on the pitch or outside of it. I'm not saying "Materwhat" acted in a proper way, but it drives me mad to hear that Zizou is a victim in this case. He's no bloody victim! It was him who escalated the conflict. If I call you names will you instantly knock me down??? Or will you ignore me? Or possibly call me names too? Which option do you choose as a civilised person and a champion and idol for many? Evelien is right. Both are to blame, but I find it irritiating to hear that Materazzi's fault is bigger "because he provoked a great champion to go so low"
I agree with you, Pawel. Zidane is certainly not a victim here. He knew exactly what he did, and he doesn't regret it either. He has apologized to the kids who were watching, buyt he said that he doesn't regret it. Sure, Materazzi shouldn't have taunted Zidane. But violence on the pitch can never be tolerated. Zidane could have just ignored him or tell him to fuck off. But to him family honour was everything, more important than winning the World Cup. Zidane taunts others too. In the game against Portugal apparently he called the ref a son of a bitch! He's no saint.
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Svenn:
Zidane taunts others too. In the game against Portugal apparently he called the ref a son of a bitch! He's no saint.
Just imagine the look on everyone's faces if the referee had knocked Zidane down for that.
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Denny Wingman:
Svenn:
Zidane taunts others too. In the game against Portugal apparently he called the ref a son of a bitch! He's no saint.
Just imagine the look on everyone's faces if the referee had knocked Zidane down for that.
(but next time, "dennytschke", try and be more politically correct, for God's sake : )
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Finally Palmeiras won, shiiiiiiiiiitttttttt!!!!!!!!! Go Verdão!!!
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WHOA HO, BABY!! HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN!! Italian trio relegated to Serie B Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal. Juventus were also stripped of their last two Serie A titles and had 30 points deducted, meaning they are likely to stay down for two seasons. AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will start the season docked 15 points. All are barred from playing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina in the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup. Lazio were penalised seven league points while Fiorentina suffered a 12-point penalty. Inter, Roma, Chievo and Palermo, who finished third, fifth, seventh and eighth, are in line to take the places of the penalised clubs in next season's Champions League. Lecce, Messina, and Treviso will avoid relegation to Serie B and keep their places in the top flight as a result of the verdict. But all four penalised clubs hit out at the verdict and said they would appeal. They have three days to appeal to the Federal Court, but they may find they will run out of time to rescue their European places regardless of the outcome of any appeal because the deadline for entry is only 11 days away. The FIGC (Italian football's governing body) must hand its European counterpart Uefa the lists of teams that will be involved in its competitions by 25 July. Juventus president Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said: "This verdict is unheard of. We expected a balanced sentence not only in form but in substance, our expectations were different ones. "We could have expected relegation to the second division but to be also handed a 30-point deduction is almost like relegation to the third division. We will appeal." A statement on Fiorentina's official site called the decision "profoundly unjust". It added: "Fiorentina wishes to reiterate the absolute correctness of the club and of their own executives. "Fiorentina will fight with every means possible so that the truth of the facts are revealed." An AC Milan statement said: "AC Milan retains the decision by the CAF of extraordinary injustice. "We will appeal once the documents of the verdict will be available, with the certainty that the procedure will be radically modified by appeal." Lazio president Claudio Lotito, who was banned for three years for his part in the scandal, was fuming following the verdict. "I think this sentence is provisional as it's based on a theorem which is completely ridiculous," he said. "I will not make any decisions until a final sentence is given." Individuals directly involved with the scandal were also penalised. Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi and ex-chief executive Antonio Giraudo were suspended from football for the maximum five years, with a recommendation to the FIGC to make it for life. AC Milan vice-resident Adriano Galliani was suspended for one year. Moggi reacted by saying: "I'm not saddened for myself but for the teams involved and for their fans." The tribunal in Rome investigated charges that the clubs, their management, football officials and referees tried to influence the outcome of matches by interfering with the appointment of officials. In May, transcripts were published of telephone conversations between Moggi and Italian Football Association officials, discussing refereeing appointments in the 2004-05 season. FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi also charged 26 individuals for sporting fraud and violating fairness and probity. All four clubs implicated denied the accusations. Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also have Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks. Many of them are expected to seek transfers to other leading clubs in Italy or Europe to limit the damage to their careers. CLUB PUNISHMENTS Juventus: Relegated to Serie B 30-point deduction for next season Stripped of 2005 and 2006 titles Out of 2006-07 Champions League Five-year ban for ex-general manager Luciano Moggi Five-year ban for ex-chief executive Antonio Giraudo AC Milan: Deducted 15 points next season Out of 2006-07 Champions League One-year ban for vice-president Adriano Galliani Club official Leonardo Meani banned for three years and six months Fiorentina: Relegated to Serie B 12-point deduction next season Out of 2006-07 Champions League President Andrea Della Valle banned for three years and six months Four-year ban for honorary president Diego Della Valle Lazio: Relegated to Serie B Out of 2006-07 Uefa Cup 7-point deduction next season Three-year ban for president Claudio Lotito http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5164194.stm "The biggest transfer market in history has just opened its doors" WOW!!
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Goodness. If Barcelona can get Zambrotta or Cannavaro, the defensive problems would be solved!!
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Sorry, but this just has me LMFAO!! http://www.juventus.com/it/team/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1457000
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I expected something to happen, but these are drastic punishments! Seems after the euphoria of winning the World Cup, Italian football has gone back to business rather fast!
Pawel:
Poland has a new coach. Leo Benhaker
I was actually going to ask about it. I guess you can't go wrong with him. He's had lots of experience with first class teams - Feyenoord Rotterdam, the Dutch national team and Real Madrid, among others!
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unclesox:
Sorry, but this just has me LMFAO!! http://www.juventus.com/it/team/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1457000
"in construzione"