The ..2012.... Political thread
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MACCA FANS! Due to the fact that absentee ballots were sent out late to our troops overseas, the news media are now reporting that election results won't be fully decided until another ten days. I agree; if you're overseas fighting for our country, then your vote should COUNT!!
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BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
Information + foxnews = contradiction!
Perfect- regardless of fact vs. opinion, you turn your head in support of Heir Obama. Heil!
Exactly my point towards you - are you saying that this story is false because it is on Fox News? The fact is that it is fact and not opinion. Your response is to refute the source.. :
Are you saying foxnews is the best source you can come up with?
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anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
Information + foxnews = contradiction!
Perfect- regardless of fact vs. opinion, you turn your head in support of Heir Obama. Heil!
Exactly my point towards you - are you saying that this story is false because it is on Fox News? The fact is that it is fact and not opinion. Your response is to refute the source.. :
Are you saying foxnews is the best source you can come up with?
Are you refuting the story because of the source?
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nellie apple:
MikeMC Let's not forget: A three letters word -- jobs. J-O-B-S. I watched Biden--- I was eating and spew the food then I laughed! Poor old man--- HAHAHAHA!!!!! Biden is on remission for decades now---he has brain cancer!
That was one of my favorite Biden gafs He has brought some comedy relief! Talk about health: Obama is a couple years younger than me. He's been smoking for 25+years. Plus he was on cocaine. This is not so funny.......
Joe Biden has for years claimed that his first wife and his daughter were killed by a "drunk driver" in 1972. As late as 2007 Biden said that the man who was involved in the fatal crash that killed his wife and daughter was a "guy who allegedly ... drank his lunch" This drunk driving accusation, though, is simply a Biden creation and every time this claim is uttered it pains the family of the poor, maligned man involved in the tragic accident with Biden's family, truck driver Curtis C. Dunn. Gannett owned DelewareOnline reports the anguish that Biden's continued lie causes the man's family every time it is uttered."To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears," Dunn's daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. "My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he's not here to defend himself." In truth, there was no finding of alcohol being involved in this tragic incident. In fact, some investigators thought at the time that the accident was caused by Biden's wife pulling out into the intersection not having seen Dunn's truck bearing down upon her. It was simply a horrible accident with no blame saying Dunn was at fault, much less drunk.
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BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
Information + foxnews = contradiction!
Perfect- regardless of fact vs. opinion, you turn your head in support of Heir Obama. Heil!
Exactly my point towards you - are you saying that this story is false because it is on Fox News? The fact is that it is fact and not opinion. Your response is to refute the source.. :
Are you saying foxnews is the best source you can come up with?
Are you refuting the story because of the source?
Some sources make me wonder, if I'm able to find the same information somewhere else!
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the obama accusers are being wildly unreasonable. who is more vetted than a presidential candidate, whom is more thoroughly checked out and scrutinized? there's been no real dirt dug up on Obama, else he'd never have gotten the nomination. how dumb do you think we are? you're grasping at straws.
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anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
BandontheRun:
anna_medlicka:
Information + foxnews = contradiction!
Perfect- regardless of fact vs. opinion, you turn your head in support of Heir Obama. Heil!
Exactly my point towards you - are you saying that this story is false because it is on Fox News? The fact is that it is fact and not opinion. Your response is to refute the source.. :
Are you saying foxnews is the best source you can come up with?
Please eat a little crowe here... jeez.. the friggin dems are all about the left wing media and don't look at the FACTS people- WAKE UP!! [W3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aU7EaDiaMDCiUZ">http://www.startribune.com/local/south/33699209.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4OW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aU7EaDiaMDCiUZ](http://www.startribune.com/local/south/33699209.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O<img src=) http://townhall.com/blog/g/4354c312-47e2-4cbe-b3f4-0efb142a870f http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122892/posts http://www.kare11.com/news/national/national_article.aspx?storyid=528505
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BandontheRun:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/professor-resigns-admitting-theft-mccain-yard-signs/
What a jerk that teacher was!
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SusyLuvsPaul:
the obama accusers are being wildly unreasonable. who is more vetted than a presidential candidate, whom is more thoroughly checked out and scrutinized? there's been no real dirt dug up on Obama, else he'd never have gotten the nomination. how dumb do you think we are? you're grasping at straws.
Nothing dug up on Obama???? Where have you been : : :
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SusyLuvsPaul:
that's odd, i've heard of obama posters being stolen around here but nothing about mccain palin signs being stolen or defaced. it's so ironic that creme tangerine was accused of the same thing her accuser did to her...i cant see where creme t. did it, if she did happen to, anyway her accuser did it much more than she did. Ironic.
I said that so Mikemc would see that sometimes context isn't necessary to infer meaning of a single statement. As he proved himself, if I say (and it is an example, if I actually need to say that) "black people are killers and thieves" there is no way I can say that I meant anything else by the context. It is what it is. I made a general statement about black people. And it is racist and ignorant. Mikemc responded exactly as one should regarding ridiculous statements like that. The point being, when you say something like "democrats are ____" you are making a general assumption about democrats as a whole, despite if you were previously talking about specific people. It's a generalization. General, general, general, just for the sake of sounding like a broken record.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
the obama accusers are being wildly unreasonable. who is more vetted than a presidential candidate, whom is more thoroughly checked out and scrutinized? there's been no real dirt dug up on Obama, else he'd never have gotten the nomination. how dumb do you think we are? you're grasping at straws.
There's been no real dirt dug up on Obama? Has anyone seen this guy's Harvard records? Did he ever WRITE anything for the Harvard review? Here is a man who is very good at politics and attaining positions but has accomplished little. Obama supporters- please tell me one thing he has actually accomplished other than being a black senator?
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deKooningartist:
SusyLuvsPaul:
the obama accusers are being wildly unreasonable. who is more vetted than a presidential candidate, whom is more thoroughly checked out and scrutinized? there's been no real dirt dug up on Obama, else he'd never have gotten the nomination. how dumb do you think we are? you're grasping at straws.
Nothing dug up on Obama???? Where have you been : : :
Thank you! I couldn't believe that one when I read it! No dirt dug up on Obama - Hardy har-har... More like the dirt is swept under the carpet...
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nothing truly terrible has been dug up on Obama, you blew things up and took stuff out of context and made mountains out of mole hills. there's nothing terrible and there's a lot that is good and praise worthy and admirable which you refuse to see.
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Mikemc:
Andy, It's especially scary because Obama will have the mainstream media running interference for him. Even Bill Maher couldn't help but notice the bias. He said Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews want to have sex with Obama. Matthews said he gets a tingling up his leg whenever he sees Obama speak. Hey Chris Matthews, I got some advice for you: after doing a segment on Obama don't stand up for at least 15 minutes, it could be very embarrassing. Dan Rather has even acknowledged the media are in the tank for Obama. That's the man who tried to throw the 2004 election with fraudulent military records on Bush. During the primaries it was so absurd how the media jumped on the Obama bandwagon while throwing Hillary under the bus that Saturday Night Live did a skit on it. Bush has really low ratings. The Congress, controlled by Democrats, has lower ratings than Bush. And the Media have lower ratings than Congress.
Nobody or at least next to nobody sees an equivilent and/or related danger in political correctness. Maybe most people will not until we have our own counties version of Kristalnacht
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SusyLuvsPaul:
nothing truly terrible has been dug up on Obama, you blew things up and took stuff out of context and made mountains out of mole hills. there's nothing terrible and there's a lot that is good and praise worthy and admirable which you refuse to see.
I guess you're right if you assume that being friends with racists and terrorists is nothing terrible... can't argue with you there... I would be curious in understanding your perspective on what has been a "mountain made out of a mole hill"
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Since this is Pauls site I thought it would be appropriate to post the link to the BBC US election results site. They did an excellent and thorough job and even made it interactive so that you can view the results as they come in. Here it is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7693060.stm Whatever happens tonight the Obama campaign would like to thank you for your financial support. A group of my fellow Obama volunteers and I had a game going that was fun but very expensive. Everytime we were faced with a rude, racist or very ignorant remark toward Obama on any blog or message board where we spent some time we would donate to the campaign. I ended up maxing out on the Obama campaign and am now donating to the senate and congressional races of my choice. So Thanks Have a great evening! Peace
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BandontheRun:
SusyLuvsPaul:
the obama accusers are being wildly unreasonable. who is more vetted than a presidential candidate, whom is more thoroughly checked out and scrutinized? there's been no real dirt dug up on Obama, else he'd never have gotten the nomination. how dumb do you think we are? you're grasping at straws.
There's been no real dirt dug up on Obama? Has anyone seen this guy's Harvard records? Did he ever WRITE anything for the Harvard review? Here is a man who is very good at politics and attaining positions but has accomplished little. Obama supporters- please tell me one thing he has actually accomplished other than being a black senator?
a law degree from Harvard :
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SusyLuvsPaul:
nothing truly terrible has been dug up on Obama, you blew things up and took stuff out of context and made mountains out of mole hills. there's nothing terrible and there's a lot that is good and praise worthy and admirable which you refuse to see.
Oh yea- exactly what is "good and praise worthy and admirable"?
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Obama definitely has some "dirt." However, it's all about a) how much you are willing to believe and b) how much of an impact it makes on your decision. I have heard all the things about Obama, as everyone has, and I even believe there's a possibility that some of it may be true. We are not in complete denial that Obama isn't a perfect saint. But we all have skeletons in the closet, don't we? I don't think the bad decisions he may or may not have made completely define how he is going to be as a president. Nothing that I have heard has convinced me that he is not the better candidate, even though the "dirt" has convinced me that he is human. So I don't necessarily think it's that we refuse to hear the truth/rumors. They just aren't a make or break for us. They are much more important to his non-supporters, which of course, makes sense. I personally see far more positive qualities than negative in Obama, although I don't deny the negative. I cannot predict accurately whether Obama will be a success or failure, I'm just trying to convey the perspective that I think many of his supporters have. Edit: That is, if he wins.
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Some of you guys scare me with your insults on one another... Just tell me tomorrow it's not going to be the USA civil war or so. I hope it will pass after the election. As for me I'm satisfied Bush can't win. Now comparations with Hitler seems usual, let me remind again Hitler and Bush similarities, fortunately Bush didn't change the constitution to stay in power. Well, in Spain there was a Civil War 1936-1939, just before World War 2 (some say it was the start of WW2), it happened just after some elections and some didn't accept the winners. And it's the most shameful war I know. Brothers killed brothers, neighbours killed neighbours, sons bombed the house where his family lived (with the family inside) . Just for the sake of "being" from one political view or the other. Yes, "being" not "having"... individual classified as "Reds" or "Fascists", instead of people. That's probably the biggest shame in Spain's history (that and the genocide done in America in the 16th century). Even today scars of that war remain. Just don't let it happen to you. Spain would have been a better country without the war, no matter what political view would have run the government, a civil war is always worse.