EGYPT STATION
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thrillington wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I shouldn't have insisted Paul is singing "I want to f-----k you" in the chorus of "Fuh You" even after reading in here he says in his twitter it's really "I want it fuh you," but I could have sworn I hear the former phrase; I'll go back and listen again, but I'm bewildered. I thought my ears are usually pretty keen. I'd never want to claim he's telling a fib. Others said they think they hear the naughty line, too. I'll go check, again
He could have named the song "For You" and then said "I want it for you" he would be cleverly blurring the phrase with what he actually says. I have listened many times and he even seems to say "I just want to *********
Again, I think he takes a good song and then distracts us with the phrase. The chorus and melody is quite catchy.
But this our Paul after all.
I agree. It would have been better to call the song “For You” but sing it just like he did so it’s hard to tell if he’s singing “I just want it for you” or “I just wanna fuh you” !! Lol! “Our Paul” -
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I think I am beginning to understand the magical double meaning to "Fuh You." After listening to the song several times over the last couple of days, I am sure McCartney MEANS "I just want it for you." In my opinion the trick line is the line, "You make me wanna go out and steal," that comes right before.
So the progression into this part of the lyric is building up "I want a love that's so proud and real. Which displays the sincerity for "I just wanna fuh (for) you." But for me, and I am sure others, this gets derailed with, "you make me wanna go out and steal." When I first heard this, it sounds like "baby" has driven him/her because of a lack of "a proud and real love" to crime. In this context, it sounds like, "I just want you for sex."
But if you hear the line, "you make me wanna go out and steal," as in fanciful or whimsical to someone falling in love, then WITHOUT question, "McCartney MEANS and is SINGING, "I just want it for you."
So it depends on a listeners state of mind as to what is heard. It's all in the mind, ya know....
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C'Moon Triangle wrote:
I think I am beginning to understand the magical double meaning to "Fuh You." After listening to the song several times over the last couple of days, I am sure McCartney MEANS "I just want it for you." In my opinion the trick line is the line, "You make me wanna go out and steal," that comes right before.
So the progression into this part of the lyric is building up "I want a love that's so proud and real. Which displays the sincerity for "I just wanna fuh (for) you." But for me, and I am sure others, this gets derailed with, "you make me wanna go out and steal." When I first heard this, it sounds like "baby" has driven him/her because of a lack of "a proud and real love" to crime. In this context, it sounds like, "I just want you for sex."
But if you hear the line, "you make me wanna go out and steal," as in fanciful or whimsical to someone falling in love, then WITHOUT question, "McCartney MEANS and is SINGING, "I just want it for you."
So it depends on a listeners state of mind as to what is heard. It's all in the mind, ya know....
I appreciate this interpretation. Again, the lyrics and song are quite good. I still think that the song gets derailed by what he seems to say. But I will keep listening. I think I just did hear him say "I just want it for you" for the first time. At least Paul is getting us to talk a lot about a song.
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thrillington wrote:
I appreciate this interpretation. Again, the lyrics and song are quite good. I still think that the song gets derailed by what he seems to say. But I will keep listening. I think I just did hear him say "I just want it for you" for the first time. At least Paul is getting us to talk a lot about a song.
I think the controversy is funny. There is no doubt in my mind that Paul is fuhing with everybody. I think the magic trick is brilliant. "Fuh You" can be classified as a Double entendre song I would think. Has this been done before?
Actually I like "Come On To Me" much more. So far I like this song the best. AND I liked the video with cool artwork dancing around. I assume that is McCartney standing there in the very 1968 stripped pant and the rockstar flying coat. Actually I am looking forward to the instrumentals, as these type are some of my favorite.
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For a nano second I thought that maybe Fuh was another language that meant something like thank with you added after. I looked it and didn't see such. I was over reading something into it.
It reminds me of good and bad advertising where they are glad to get people talking and buzzing about something. This Song has done that.
I haven't just listened to it yet.... on Fuh You I have watched the video with it. I will listen to it soon without the attached videeo.
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Interesting to see the reaction on YouTube: 10,000 thumbs up but 2,000 thumbs down. In comparison, Come On To Me and I Don't Know have about four times as many views but about 1/4 as many thumbs down responses.
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Someone please tell me if I read Paul's website right. Eygpt Station is a FULL album with 16 songs on it right? Its not just a single album? In any case Im dying to get this album! I kept playing Come On To Me several times today and could not stop listening to it because its such an awesome song. Made me want to dance lol!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Oh neither am I. I don't wear those fake rose tinted glasses either. But this song is catchy...IMO.
So was 'Ou Est Le Soleil' and that was a bit...well, nothing special either. I like Paul's songs which have a bit more ...substance !!
Kestrel,
I do agree with you 100%. One of the reasons I'm a big fan of Paul's Solo Catalog is that from Tug of War onward, Paul has written many songs that have more meaningful, mature lyrics....more substance as you say. There are many songs from Tug of War, Flowers in the Dirt, Flaming Pie, Chaos, Memory Almost Full etc. where the lyrics and subject matter are especially good.
I'm still very optimistic about Egypt Station because we've only heard 3 songs. On many Paul albums, it is the deep cuts, hidden gems that I like the best. Your example of Scared from New is a great one. Press to Play is also a good example. While "Press" (the song) was the single getting all the publicity, it turned out to be one of my least favorite songs on the album. Conversely, Footprints a song that was never discussed is one of my absolute favorite songs on Press to Play. It is miles better than Press in my opinion.
So far I like "I Don't Know" the best. Love the music and the lyrics have a lot of substance in my opinion. I also like "Come On To Me" pretty well mostly for the combination of instruments. Those 2 songs have great production in my opinion. Greg Kurstin is the producer for those 2 plus all the rest of the songs on Egypt Station with the exception of "Fuh You" (Ryan Tedder) so I am optimistic. I'm hoping that there are at least 4 or 5 songs on the album that I like better than all of the 3 singles so far. The other thing is that I'm deliberately not listening to the 3 singles on Youtube at this point. I want to see how all the songs "gell"together first. I have my doubts that "Fuh You" for example will be one of my favs but I want to wait and be objective.
It is fairly rare that I don't agree with you about songs but I actually like "Fuh You" the best. It just is bouncy and a song I could imagine singing and dancing to in a club - lol. I have a feeling it probably is going to be one of those songs that don't fit with the rest of the album, maybe should have just been a single. I like Come On To Me" also but the only thing that brings it down to me is the repetitive lyric for the last minute of the song. For me "I Don't Know" is just not one of those memorable McCartney melodic ballads. It just seems to plod along and I really don't like his vocal. I ado agree with you that lyrically it is pretty good.
Agree. I like "Fuh You" for the reasons you state...and the others not so much for the same exact reasons...repetitive lyrics on one...not a great vocal on the other. I think the vocal could have been saved a bit had they started it with the harmony on the lyrics...used later in the song...instead of just Paul's unadorned (hoarse) voice. It just jumps out at you...for all the wrong reasons. Otherwise, I think the song is quite lovely. The piano opening is great.
Hey guys, as I have said in an earlier post, one of the great things about being a McCartney fan is that his songs/albums are all over the map so difference in opinions are to be expected. We tend to agree with "typical" Macca Beatlesque type songs but like you I do also enjoy his diversity in styles, genrre's etc.
Regarding "Fuh You", I think the biggest objective to the average Beatle/Paul type fans (on all the comments on YouTube) is that it sounded too much like today's "here today, gone tomorrow, top 40 type songs". Several of them used the phrases like "selling out or you're better than this". I get that, but after only hearing the song 2-3 times, I do admit that it is damn catchy. I was waking up to the melody the following mornings and isn't that what popular music is about in the long run. I'm not crazy about the lyrics but I won't be surprise if I like it much better once I get the album. And it is only a little over 3 minutes so at least it is not one of these 6-10 minute jam songs like What's That Your Doing, Rinse the Raindrops or Really Love You that marred those respective albums in my opinion.
I have heard "I Don't Know" a few more times because it has been on Sirius and this one has really grown on me. I don't mind his vocal after quite a few listens because of the song's lyrics and subject matter. Besides being more used to his "older" voice anyway, the lyrics to me speak about an older man looking back at his life, regrets etc. More than anything I really like the music and production. Love the piano opening as mentioned and I love the changes in the song including the great bridge..."but It's alright, sleep tight" section, the middle piano solo etc. I think once you hear "I Don't Know" as part of the entire album, you might like it quite a bit more.
I also agree with both of you on "Come On To Me". I won't be surprise if I get tired of it as part of the album because of the ultra repetiveness as you say. I think Greg Kurstin has exhausted all the instuments and production techniques he could to abate the repetiveness while keeping it interesting. I do like the horn section (which to me is "the" bridge) while the drums and piano solo's are also effective. But I agree with you regarding the staying power and enjoyment of the song with repeated listens. Thankfully it again is not too long 4:11 so I think that I may like it as a good album cut.
I just listened to all three of the songs again in a row because I think they are the ones he will probably play live. Wouldn't it be cool if he actually opened with "Come On To Me", would bring back memories of 1989 tour when he opened with "Figure Of Eight". Not going to happen probably so it will be interesting to see the slot he places this song along with "Fuh You". "I Don't Know" will obviously be mixed in with the piano set of the show and my gut feel it will not come off well to the audience. I think the other two songs have much better chance of having a first timer crowd actually getting into the songs.
Yankeefan,
I guess I won't be shocked if he opened his tour with "Come On To Me" since he hasn't had a new album to promote for so long. Like you, I wouldn't bet on it. I think the more likely spot would be at #2 right after his normal "Beatle" song opener. Since "Hard Day's Night" went over pretty well, he might go back to it and then follow it with "Come On To Me". A good one-two punch in my opinion to get the crowd going. Also, having the band join in vocally for both songs would be a good plan to help Paul get his vocals going. Even back in his stronger voice (e.g. 2002, 2005) , Paul always seemed to need a few songs to get his vocals going.
I'm even more anxious to see where he places "I Don't Know". Since his vocals aren't the strongest on the album version, I want to see if his "live" versions might be better vocally especially in the first few shows where he has had a decent amount of time off the road. As I have said, I like the song a lot.
Also like you, I don't see many changes in the setlist regarding older Solo songs (from previous solo albums) being added. That being said and to maintain the "new" tour name, maybe he might give us 5 or 6 songs from Egypt Station. That would keep my interest for sure. I might be interesting to compare all the "live" versions with the studio songs. As we have stated before, many times his "live" versions are better.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Since "Hard Day's Night" went over pretty well, he might go back to it and then follow it with "Come On To Me". A good one-two punch in my opinion to get the crowd going. Also, having the band join in vocally for both songs would be a good plan to help Paul get his vocals going.
For the life of me I've never understood why Paul has never opened a show with "So Glad To See You Here", that song has 'opening song' written all over it. He could then continue with 'Come On To Me"and the other two singles, get them out the way and then carry on with the decent stuff.
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Nancy R wrote:
thrillington wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I shouldn't have insisted Paul is singing "I want to f-----k you" in the chorus of "Fuh You" even after reading in here he says in his twitter it's really "I want it fuh you," but I could have sworn I hear the former phrase; I'll go back and listen again, but I'm bewildered. I thought my ears are usually pretty keen. I'd never want to claim he's telling a fib. Others said they think they hear the naughty line, too. I'll go check, again
He could have named the song "For You" and then said "I want it for you" he would be cleverly blurring the phrase with what he actually says. I have listened many times and he even seems to say "I just want to *********
Again, I think he takes a good song and then distracts us with the phrase. The chorus and melody is quite catchy.
But this our Paul after all.
I agree. It would have been better to call the song “For You” but sing it just like he did so it’s hard to tell if he’s singing “I just want it for you” or “I just wanna fuh you” !! Lol! “Our Paul” -
Can't believe that didn't occur to Paul...naming it "For You," but singing it just as he does. It really makes sense and would make the song much more interesting.
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Kestrel wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Since "Hard Day's Night" went over pretty well, he might go back to it and then follow it with "Come On To Me". A good one-two punch in my opinion to get the crowd going. Also, having the band join in vocally for both songs would be a good plan to help Paul get his vocals going.
For the life of me I've never understood why Paul has never opened a show with "So Glad To See You Here", that song has 'opening song' written all over it. He could then continue with 'Come On To Me"and the other two singles, get them out the way and then carry on with the decent stuff.
Years ago I thought that "So Glad To See You Here" would have been a terrific opening song once Paul started doing "world tours"again (late 80's and beyond) but it was a poorly received album so Paul never went there. But Before we get into "setlist" territory prior to the upcoming Freshin Up Tour (another thread) I do hope that Paul plays a generous amount of Egypt Station songs (like 5-6 songs) in November. He did that "way back when" for the Flowers in the Dirt and the Off the Ground tours so lets hope he does it with Egypt Station.
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REMINDER FOR "WHAT TO SEE TONIGHT" 8/20/18
This may be for the US audience ONLY....
Primetime 8:00 PM CBS (Eastern Standard time)
James Corden's Carpool Karaoke with Paul McCartney (Extended Version/Never before seen footage)
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Hopefully we'll get a couple of full "live" Egypt Station songs
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B J Conlee wrote: I do hope that Paul plays a generous amount of Egypt Station songs (like 5-6 songs) in November. He did that "way back when" for the Flowers in the Dirt and the Off the Ground tours so lets hope he does it with Egypt Station.
Well, he'll probably be on stage for three hours so he could, in theory,devote up to thirty minutes to his new album. In practice might be a different matter though.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Since "Hard Day's Night" went over pretty well, he might go back to it and then follow it with "Come On To Me". A good one-two punch in my opinion to get the crowd going. Also, having the band join in vocally for both songs would be a good plan to help Paul get his vocals going.
For the life of me I've never understood why Paul has never opened a show with "So Glad To See You Here", that song has 'opening song' written all over it. He could then continue with 'Come On To Me"and the other two singles, get them out the way and then carry on with the decent stuff.
Years ago I thought that "So Glad To See You Here" would have been a terrific opening song once Paul started doing "world tours"again (late 80's and beyond) but it was a poorly received album so Paul never went there. But Before we get into "setlist" territory prior to the upcoming Freshin Up Tour (another thread) I do hope that Paul plays a generous amount of Egypt Station songs (like 5-6 songs) in November. He did that "way back when" for the Flowers in the Dirt and the Off the Ground tours so lets hope he does it with Egypt Station.
That would be nice if he added 5-6 songs, guess it depends on how much he likes the new album .
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Oh neither am I. I don't wear those fake rose tinted glasses either. But this song is catchy...IMO.
So was 'Ou Est Le Soleil' and that was a bit...well, nothing special either. I like Paul's songs which have a bit more ...substance !!
Kestrel,
I do agree with you 100%. One of the reasons I'm a big fan of Paul's Solo Catalog is that from Tug of War onward, Paul has written many songs that have more meaningful, mature lyrics....more substance as you say. There are many songs from Tug of War, Flowers in the Dirt, Flaming Pie, Chaos, Memory Almost Full etc. where the lyrics and subject matter are especially good.
I'm still very optimistic about Egypt Station because we've only heard 3 songs. On many Paul albums, it is the deep cuts, hidden gems that I like the best. Your example of Scared from New is a great one. Press to Play is also a good example. While "Press" (the song) was the single getting all the publicity, it turned out to be one of my least favorite songs on the album. Conversely, Footprints a song that was never discussed is one of my absolute favorite songs on Press to Play. It is miles better than Press in my opinion.
So far I like "I Don't Know" the best. Love the music and the lyrics have a lot of substance in my opinion. I also like "Come On To Me" pretty well mostly for the combination of instruments. Those 2 songs have great production in my opinion. Greg Kurstin is the producer for those 2 plus all the rest of the songs on Egypt Station with the exception of "Fuh You" (Ryan Tedder) so I am optimistic. I'm hoping that there are at least 4 or 5 songs on the album that I like better than all of the 3 singles so far. The other thing is that I'm deliberately not listening to the 3 singles on Youtube at this point. I want to see how all the songs "gell"together first. I have my doubts that "Fuh You" for example will be one of my favs but I want to wait and be objective.
It is fairly rare that I don't agree with you about songs but I actually like "Fuh You" the best. It just is bouncy and a song I could imagine singing and dancing to in a club - lol. I have a feeling it probably is going to be one of those songs that don't fit with the rest of the album, maybe should have just been a single. I like Come On To Me" also but the only thing that brings it down to me is the repetitive lyric for the last minute of the song. For me "I Don't Know" is just not one of those memorable McCartney melodic ballads. It just seems to plod along and I really don't like his vocal. I ado agree with you that lyrically it is pretty good.
Agree. I like "Fuh You" for the reasons you state...and the others not so much for the same exact reasons...repetitive lyrics on one...not a great vocal on the other. I think the vocal could have been saved a bit had they started it with the harmony on the lyrics...used later in the song...instead of just Paul's unadorned (hoarse) voice. It just jumps out at you...for all the wrong reasons. Otherwise, I think the song is quite lovely. The piano opening is great.
Hey guys, as I have said in an earlier post, one of the great things about being a McCartney fan is that his songs/albums are all over the map so difference in opinions are to be expected. We tend to agree with "typical" Macca Beatlesque type songs but like you I do also enjoy his diversity in styles, genrre's etc.
Regarding "Fuh You", I think the biggest objective to the average Beatle/Paul type fans (on all the comments on YouTube) is that it sounded too much like today's "here today, gone tomorrow, top 40 type songs". Several of them used the phrases like "selling out or you're better than this". I get that, but after only hearing the song 2-3 times, I do admit that it is damn catchy. I was waking up to the melody the following mornings and isn't that what popular music is about in the long run. I'm not crazy about the lyrics but I won't be surprise if I like it much better once I get the album. And it is only a little over 3 minutes so at least it is not one of these 6-10 minute jam songs like What's That Your Doing, Rinse the Raindrops or Really Love You that marred those respective albums in my opinion.
I have heard "I Don't Know" a few more times because it has been on Sirius and this one has really grown on me. I don't mind his vocal after quite a few listens because of the song's lyrics and subject matter. Besides being more used to his "older" voice anyway, the lyrics to me speak about an older man looking back at his life, regrets etc. More than anything I really like the music and production. Love the piano opening as mentioned and I love the changes in the song including the great bridge..."but It's alright, sleep tight" section, the middle piano solo etc. I think once you hear "I Don't Know" as part of the entire album, you might like it quite a bit more.
I also agree with both of you on "Come On To Me". I won't be surprise if I get tired of it as part of the album because of the ultra repetiveness as you say. I think Greg Kurstin has exhausted all the instuments and production techniques he could to abate the repetiveness while keeping it interesting. I do like the horn section (which to me is "the" bridge) while the drums and piano solo's are also effective. But I agree with you regarding the staying power and enjoyment of the song with repeated listens. Thankfully it again is not too long 4:11 so I think that I may like it as a good album cut.
I just listened to all three of the songs again in a row because I think they are the ones he will probably play live. Wouldn't it be cool if he actually opened with "Come On To Me", would bring back memories of 1989 tour when he opened with "Figure Of Eight". Not going to happen probably so it will be interesting to see the slot he places this song along with "Fuh You". "I Don't Know" will obviously be mixed in with the piano set of the show and my gut feel it will not come off well to the audience. I think the other two songs have much better chance of having a first timer crowd actually getting into the songs.
Yankeefan,
I guess I won't be shocked if he opened his tour with "Come On To Me" since he hasn't had a new album to promote for so long. Like you, I wouldn't bet on it. I think the more likely spot would be at #2 right after his normal "Beatle" song opener. Since "Hard Day's Night" went over pretty well, he might go back to it and then follow it with "Come On To Me". A good one-two punch in my opinion to get the crowd going. Also, having the band join in vocally for both songs would be a good plan to help Paul get his vocals going. Even back in his stronger voice (e.g. 2002, 2005) , Paul always seemed to need a few songs to get his vocals going.
I'm even more anxious to see where he places "I Don't Know". Since his vocals aren't the strongest on the album version, I want to see if his "live" versions might be better vocally especially in the first few shows where he has had a decent amount of time off the road. As I have said, I like the song a lot.
Also like you, I don't see many changes in the setlist regarding older Solo songs (from previous solo albums) being added. That being said and to maintain the "new" tour name, maybe he might give us 5 or 6 songs from Egypt Station. That would keep my interest for sure. I might be interesting to compare all the "live" versions with the studio songs. As we have stated before, many times his "live" versions are better.
You are probably right "Come On To Me" will be in #2 slot like "Save Us" and "Only Mama Knows" were years ago.
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I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but Target is claiming to be selling the album with exclusive bonus tracks , but is two dollars more than the amazon price. I guesse I'll go for the more tracks version in the end....
BONUS TRACKS
17. Get Started
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cheerdown wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but Target is claiming to be selling the album with exclusive bonus tracks , but is two dollars more than the amazon price. I guesse I'll go for the more tracks version in the end....
BONUS TRACKS
17. Get Started
18. Nothing For FreeYes, we talked about this. When I originally pre-ordered it, it was going to cost $18.01 with free shipping. Then they lowered the price by $2, so I called them and they deducted it and will only charge me $16.01 when it ships. However, apparently if you pre-order it now, you can’t get free shipping. ️ Just go to the store.
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Thanks Nancy for the details; I'll get it at the store.
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Mojo magazine has given Egypt Station 4/5 and says it's his best collection of songs since Band on the Run!! Where have we heard that before?? Greg Kurstin states in an article that he wanted the album to be as good as Chaos! Also it seems that Fuh You is just a bit of fun that definately is not reprentative of the album. Sounds promising!
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mike.woodruff_53961 wrote:
Mojo magazine has given Egypt Station 4/5 and says it's his best collection of songs since Band on the Run!! Where have we heard that before?? Greg Kurstin states in an article that he wanted the album to be as good as Chaos! Also it seems that Fuh You is just a bit of fun that definately is not reprentative of the album. Sounds promising!
Agreed...this does sound promising. Can Mike (or anyone else) post this review here. Would love to read it!
The fact that "Fuh You" has not been well received by most to put it mildly (just read "Singles Club" review made up of 4 music critics...yikes) was scaring me. And while the Double A single ("Come On To Me" and "I Don't Know) has generally been positive, not too many are calling them "great" either.
This 4 out of 5 review is telling me there are has to be some good to very good deeper tracks. Hopefully, there are a half of dozen (or possible more) very solid songs on Egypt Station beyond what we've heard so far.