Paul Sings and Writes Ballads
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The_Fool wrote:
You just mentioned "Somedays" I was going to put it here.
It would be tough to have to cut songs off this list in the interest of time allowed on the album...I like the list of songs and can easily add more:
some not known as well by a casual listener:
A Certain Softness (Chaos)
Distractions
This One (Flowers)
No More Lonely Nights
Heart Of The Country (Ram)
Dear Friend (Wildlife)
I could keep going, but I would have the tougher time not allowing some to make it to the album.
Great list! I especially love Distractions, Heart of the Country and Dear Friend.
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The_Fool wrote:
You just mentioned "Somedays" I was going to put it here.
It would be tough to have to cut songs off this list in the interest of time allowed on the album...I like the list of songs and can easily add more:
some not known as well by a casual listener:
A Certain Softness (Chaos)
Distractions
This One (Flowers)
No More Lonely Nights
Heart Of The Country (Ram)
Dear Friend (Wildlife)
I could keep going, but I would have the tougher time not allowing some to make it to the album.
Fool,
Your adds are fab. "A Certain Softness" is another one on Chaos that I love. Has a little "Latin" flavor to it.
Distractions is a great one on Flowers.
No More Lonely Nights is a great Ballad on "Broad Street". Dear Friend is a very good piano ballad on Wildlife and I always liked Heart of the Country on Ram.
Thanks again for your imput.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Hey Beatles4Ever
Great additions.
Pipes of Peace was a mixed album for me but I love "So Bad" , "Through Out Love" and the title cut. All 3 could be on this List imo.
Not that it's necessarily a Ballad, but I also love "The Other Me". I love the lyrics in general and the tune. The only thing I didn't particularly like was Paul's singing at the end of the song.
I didn't think "Pipes of Peace" had a good flow song to song. More or less just a collection of songs but I did love those 4 songs.
For some strange reason, I like the version of "So Bad" a little better than the "Pipes of Peace album version. Both are good however.
Somehow I forgot to mention "Don't Let It Bring You Down." I absolutely love that song!!!!
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Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
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Bruce M. wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
Sorry, but I beg to differ. I posted this in my "Beatle Paul Ballads" thread.
https://music.ubc.ca/blog/2017/9/14/playlist-what-is-a-ballad
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I say one thing... I think the term "ballad" is open to so many interpretations....
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toris wrote:
I say one thing... I think the term "ballad" is open to so many interpretations....
Yes, there are story ballads like Rocky Raccoon and The Ballad of John & Yoko. The tempo doesn't matter.
But traditionally (to me anyway) a ballad is a slower tempo love (usually) song. Like My Love, And I Love Her or Beautiful Night.
Then there are the "Power Ballads":
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The_Fool wrote:
You just mentioned "Somedays" I was going to put it here.
It would be tough to have to cut songs off this list in the interest of time allowed on the album...I like the list of songs and can easily add more:
some not known as well by a casual listener:
A Certain Softness (Chaos)
Distractions
This One (Flowers)
No More Lonely Nights
Heart Of The Country (Ram)
Dear Friend (Wildlife)
I could keep going, but I would have the tougher time not allowing some to make it to the album.
I forgot about No More Lonely Nights!.... Has to be on the list!
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NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
Sorry, but I beg to differ. I posted this in my "Beatle Paul Ballads" thread.
https://music.ubc.ca/blog/2017/9/14/playlist-what-is-a-ballad
With all due respetct, baloney. Here's the actual dictionary definition of "ballad," from Merriam Webster
Definition of ballad
1a : a narrative composition in rhythmic verse suitable for singing a ballad about King Arthur
b : an [art song](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art song) accompanying a traditional ballad
"Slow song" limps in as Webster's 3rd ranking definition.
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Bruce M. wrote:
NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
Sorry, but I beg to differ. I posted this in my "Beatle Paul Ballads" thread.
https://music.ubc.ca/blog/2017/9/14/playlist-what-is-a-ballad
With all due respetct, baloney. Here's the actual dictionary definition of "ballad," from Merriam Webster
Definition of ballad
1a : a narrative composition in rhythmic verse suitable for singing a ballad about King Arthur
b : an [art song](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art song) accompanying a traditional ballad
"Slow song" limps in as Webster's 3rd ranking definition.
Bruce, I wasn't going by the "dictionary definition" of ballad. I'd be willing to bet good money if you asked 100 people "what is a ballad?" you would get a definition closer to what the author said in the link I posted above. Anyway, agree to disagree.
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NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
Sorry, but I beg to differ. I posted this in my "Beatle Paul Ballads" thread.
https://music.ubc.ca/blog/2017/9/14/playlist-what-is-a-ballad
With all due respetct, baloney. Here's the actual dictionary definition of "ballad," from Merriam Webster
Definition of ballad
1a : a narrative composition in rhythmic verse suitable for singing a ballad about King Arthur
b : an [art song](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art song) accompanying a traditional ballad
"Slow song" limps in as Webster's 3rd ranking definition.
Bruce, I wasn't going by the "dictionary definition" of ballad. I'd be willing to bet good money if you asked 100 people "what is a ballad?" you would get a definition closer to what the author said in the link I posted above. Anyway, agree to disagree.
Just because people think something doesn't make them right. 10% of Americans think that chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
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Bruce M. wrote:
NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
NJR wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a purist. The original, classic meaning of the word "ballad" is a poem or song that tells a story. Adhering to that meaning, my favorite McCartney ballads (and he hasn't really written that many) are:
Rocky Raccoon
Sally G
Run Devil Run
Sorry, but I beg to differ. I posted this in my "Beatle Paul Ballads" thread.
https://music.ubc.ca/blog/2017/9/14/playlist-what-is-a-ballad
With all due respetct, baloney. Here's the actual dictionary definition of "ballad," from Merriam Webster
Definition of ballad
1a : a narrative composition in rhythmic verse suitable for singing a ballad about King Arthur
b : an [art song](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art song) accompanying a traditional ballad
"Slow song" limps in as Webster's 3rd ranking definition.
Bruce, I wasn't going by the "dictionary definition" of ballad. I'd be willing to bet good money if you asked 100 people "what is a ballad?" you would get a definition closer to what the author said in the link I posted above. Anyway, agree to disagree.
Just because people think something doesn't make them right. 10% of Americans think that chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
FFS Bruce, now you're being ridiculous. You DID say that the 3rd definition was a slow song, so it's not wrong.
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In my mind, you (we) are both correct.
Bruce is right in his interpretation of a "ballad".... I reference the medieval minstrels and the writers of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle". .. defintely, these songs are the forerunner of the now-known term "ballad". Even if the Gilligan's Island one is more 'recent'.
However, Nancy, you are also correct.... because in these "modern" days, we associate a ballad as a song that is soft and slow and deals in the trade of love. That is how I have always interpreted a ballad.
And the power ballad.... well, I just love the power ballad.... the Gunners and Bon Jovi made them their own. Paul has a few good goes at it.
But, I do think that the vast majority of a sample group would equate a ballad to a slow and soft song, one that may or may not build to a crescendo.
Nevertheless, both points of view.... in my view.... are correct.
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toris wrote:
In my mind, you (we) are both correct.
Bruce is right in his interpretation of a "ballad".... I reference the medieval minstrels and the writers of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle". .. defintely, these songs are the forerunner of the now-known term "ballad". Even if the Gilligan's Island one is more 'recent'.
However, Nancy, you are also correct.... because in these "modern" days, we associate a ballad as a song that is soft and slow and deals in the trade of love. That is how I have always interpreted a ballad.
And the power ballad.... well, I just love the power ballad.... the Gunners and Bon Jovi made them their own. Paul has a few good goes at it.
But, I do think that the vast majority of a sample group would equate a ballad to a slow and soft song, one that may or may not build to a crescendo.
Nevertheless, both points of view.... in my view.... are correct.
Thanks toris!
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Toris, have you considered a career in diplomacy? Some folks in Ukraine could use your help about now.