McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts
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This was not on my list of end-of-2023 predictions:
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To each their own but IMO this album is absolutely trash and has no redeeming songs. Sorry but I am not a fan of "Temporary Secretary" and "Coming Up" even though they were "hits".
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@yankeefan2 said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
To each their own but IMO this album is absolutely trash and has no redeeming songs. Sorry but I am not a fan of "Temporary Secretary" and "Coming Up" even though they were "hits".
Yeah, and I always wondered why John was so enamored with “Coming Up” that it made him want to release new music.
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@njr said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@yankeefan2 said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
To each their own but IMO this album is absolutely trash and has no redeeming songs. Sorry but I am not a fan of "Temporary Secretary" and "Coming Up" even though they were "hits".
Yeah, and I always wondered why John was so enamored with “Coming Up” that it made him want to release new music.
To me, Coming Up and One of These Days are the only redeeming moments on the album, though I much prefer the live Coming Up. Someone on Steve Hoffman's boards noted that the likely reason for the album's reappearance is due to holiday streams of Wonderful Christmastime, which was included as a bonus track when the album was reissued and so now get counted as part of the album -- so it's probably not likely that thousands of people are suddenly buying/streaming McCartney II. If that's truly Billboard's methodology, it's royally dumb.
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@yankeefan2 you're missing out on some pretty cool music, especially On The Way, which I think is great, along with the haunting Summer's Day Song. And melodically Waterfalls is absolutely gorgeous.
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@davidp said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@yankeefan2 you're missing out on some pretty cool music, especially On The Way, which I think is great, along with the haunting Summer's Day Song. And melodically Waterfalls is absolutely gorgeous.
Just listened to part of On The Way - definitely not my cup of tea. I do agree with you about Summer’s Day Song and especially Waterfalls which I love!
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@njr said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@davidp said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@yankeefan2 you're missing out on some pretty cool music, especially On The Way, which I think is great, along with the haunting Summer's Day Song. And melodically Waterfalls is absolutely gorgeous.
Just listened to part of On The Way - definitely not my cup of tea. I do agree with you about Summer’s Day Song and especially Waterfalls which I love!
On the Way is a boring bit of synthetic blues. Summer's Day Song is okay, nothing special. Waterfalls has a pretty melody and lyrics that seem to have been written by Hallmark.
It's a dreadful album. About every 4-5 years I pull out my old copy, thinking I need to give it another chance, and every time I finish listening, the answer is "nah."
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@bruce-m said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@njr said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@davidp said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@yankeefan2 you're missing out on some pretty cool music, especially On The Way, which I think is great, along with the haunting Summer's Day Song. And melodically Waterfalls is absolutely gorgeous.
Just listened to part of On The Way - definitely not my cup of tea. I do agree with you about Summer’s Day Song and especially Waterfalls which I love!
On the Way is a boring bit of synthetic blues. Summer's Day Song is okay, nothing special. Waterfalls has a pretty melody and lyrics that seem to have been written by Hallmark.
It's a dreadful album. About every 4-5 years I pull out my old copy, thinking I need to give it another chance, and every time I finish listening, the answer is "nah."
So the album isn't your bag? That's cool, but that doesn't make it dreadful. It just means there are different bags for different folks. You forgot to add the words, "In my opinion.....it's a dreadful album", since some (perhaps many?) would disagree.
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@yankeefan2 When I bought the album, put it on the turntable.... and it got to "Temporary Secretary," I shut it off. Removed the disc and never played it again...not any of it. I could not believe that the person who wrote "Eleanor Rigby"....among other great songs....could not only write the trashy and simplistic "Temporary Secretary" but then place it on an album!!! I thought, at best, he should have kept all of it for his own amusement, the whole album, not inflict it on the public. Someone on the radio played "Bogey Music" one day....and then said, "Uh, well, at least he's still cute." The record company insisted that the live version of "Coming Up" be included in the packaging, probably because of the weak studio version (vocals) on the album which was embarrassing to me as well. Later, much later, I did discover that "One Of These Days" and "Waterfalls" were on the album, so there were a couple of nice tunes there. But the damage was done. "Temporary Secretary" had ruined the whole experience. I still refuse to listen to it!
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@beatles4ever-1 The live version of Coming Up was not on the album. It was released as a single. I bought it in London in 1993.
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True, it was not on the album.....but it (the 45 RPM) was included/inserted in the packaging of the album when the album first came out, which was when I purchased it. The record company insisted on it...per news accounts at the time....because they thought it would help album sales, which they were worried about.....with good reason.
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@beatles4ever-1 said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
True, it was not on the album.....but it (the 45 RPM) was included/inserted in the packaging of the album when the album first came out, which was when I purchased it. The record company insisted on it...per news accounts at the time....because they thought it would help album sales, which they were worried about.....with good reason.
Wow! It wasn’t included with my album! Do you live in the U.S. or somewhere else?
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@yankeefan2 II is actually similar to most Beatles and Paul's post Beatle insane career. It has a bit of everything, something for everyone, except for this fugazy yankeefan2. If any other artist had produced Waterfalls, it would have been a numberv1 hit. In fact, it was blatantly copied by TLC and Sir Paul is too classy and too happy and busy to use negative energy, perhaps he is honored by that gutless effort. I had also read that John Lennon loved the studio version of Coming Up that it inspired him to make his last album. I also rather not throw hateraid on yankeefan2, but I'm guessing he/she/binary is also a fugazy Yankees fan, cause I'm a fan of both. Peace and Love 2, de-stress and revisit II.
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@nowandthen2023 What the heck is fugazy? And Yankeefan is a he.
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I live in Virginia. It was odd to buy an album and have a 45 RPM...from the artist also included...of a song that was on the album. That had never happened before....that I was ever aware of. If memory serves, it was because the single (live version) was a No. 1 for Paul and sounded different/better than the album version with Paul's vocal being somewhat weird/different. I read at the time that it was because the company was worried about the album not doing all that well. I knew I just never liked the song. Someone mentioned that john Lennon liked the song.....on the album. I believe he said he liked the live version...the 45 RPM. But who knows? To be honest, I didn't like the single live version either. I'm a massive fan of Paul, but I just didn't like the song. One of those things.
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I just googled McCartney II on Wikipedia and, in discussing the album, it includes the sentence: "The live version of "Coming Up" was also included as a one-sided 7-inch single in copies of McCartney II within the U.S. and Canada." I believe the album was released in late spring....1980.. in the U.S. and Canada.
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@njr Good day 2, I ashumed that a NY Yankee fan is familiar with the term, fugazy. Without googling, it refers to a fake. Where are you from, it appears you are not a NYer. I believe that Fugazy was an Italian who due to his help with Jews brutalized by Hitler's regime, the term Fugazy Jew was associated with him. In any case 2, I am fascinated with what Sir Paul had done circa 1980. The last Wings roster was actually my favorite. Back to the Egg is a tremendous album and underrated. After touring with them, culminating with the Concert for Kampuchia, he had enough and disbanded Wings for II and Tug of War. Such a talented man. Those last Wings shows, still hanging out there by Sir Paul for possible issue, are high quality bootlegs and amazing. That tour enabled Sir Paul to perform a few more tunes from the McCartney (I) album, coming full circle post Beatles. The live Coming Up recording is from that tour, played live as an unreleased new song as Sir Paul had told the audience. I had viewed an interview that Sir Paul had stated that John had heard the II studio version in a car radio and loved it and inspired him to record his album. Such amazing talent for so many years, so many wonderful gifts for us. I do not need to be correct, but as we all know, Beatles stories have Octopus' tentacles. Peace and Love.
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@beatles4ever-1 said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
I just googled McCartney II on Wikipedia and, in discussing the album, it includes the sentence: "The live version of "Coming Up" was also included as a one-sided 7-inch single in copies of McCartney II within the U.S. and Canada." I believe the album was released in late spring....1980.. in the U.S. and Canada.
Well, I better re-check my copy I got in Atlanta to see if I somehow missed it!
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@nowandthen2023 said in McCartney II returns to Billboard album charts:
@njr Good day 2, I ashumed that a NY Yankee fan is familiar with the term, fugazy. Without googling, it refers to a fake. Where are you from, it appears you are not a NYer. I believe that Fugazy was an Italian who due to his help with Jews brutalized by Hitler's regime, the term Fugazy Jew was associated with him. In any case 2, I am fascinated with what Sir Paul had done circa 1980. The last Wings roster was actually my favorite. Back to the Egg is a tremendous album and underrated. After touring with them, culminating with the Concert for Kampuchia, he had enough and disbanded Wings for II and Tug of War. Such a talented man. Those last Wings shows, still hanging out there by Sir Paul for possible issue, are high quality bootlegs and amazing. That tour enabled Sir Paul to perform a few more tunes from the McCartney (I) album, coming full circle post Beatles. The live Coming Up recording is from that tour, played live as an unreleased new song as Sir Paul had told the audience. I had viewed an interview that Sir Paul had stated that John had heard the II studio version in a car radio and loved it and inspired him to record his album. Such amazing talent for so many years, so many wonderful gifts for us. I do not need to be correct, but as we all know, Beatles stories have Octopus' tentacles. Peace and Love.
You keep referring to me as “2” but this is njr (a “she”) originally from Ohio but moved to Atlanta, GA in 1973. Never heard the term “fugazy” but maybe one of our Jewish Boardies has, if there are any out there. I found this online:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fugazy-a-term-for-fakery-thats-possibly-fake-itself-47a0ee3f
And you have to pay to read the article, but I was able to copy this:
Louis Fugazy, 76, Retired Executive Of Travel Business
Oct 5, 1993 — Mr. Fugazy was active in the resettlement of Jewish refugees before World War II.