"Hard Day's Night" a "Gamechanger" Film
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ABC is now showing "15 Top Game Changer Films of All Time" as its "Countdown to the Oscars" and lauds "A Hard Day's Night" as the 13th top "game changer" movie-- Oprah Winfrey rhapsodizes over it and another commenter cites "a lack of ego" in the Fabs in that movie "that made us love them so much. And the music!" in that musical was deemed superlative. Its happy go lucky air is another element that made it so much fun.
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It is a classic! I could watch it thousands of times and not be bored of it. (well, not in a row!)
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Undisputedly a classic. As Nancy said, a film you can watch over and over and never get tired of. Sort of like The Beatles albums. Timeless!
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Itsa good un.
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"I betcha can't guess what I was in for!" "Has anybody got a nail file? These handcuffs are killin' me!"
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I prefer 'Magical Mystery Tour'. Way ahead of its time. Precursor to Monty Python comedy. The spaghetti scene alone worth the price of admission. Plus, the music videos - simply surreal. Spielberg said it had a big influence on him. I dont know why Paul disparages it every chance he gets.
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JoeySmith:
I prefer 'Magical Mystery Tour'. Way ahead of its time. Precursor to Monty Python comedy. The spaghetti scene alone worth the price of admission. Plus, the music videos - simply surreal. Spielberg said it had a big influence on him. I dont know why Paul disparages it every chance he gets.
Uh, because it's nearly unwatchable?
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"A Hard Day's Night" was shown just the other night (morning?) around 3:30 a.m., on TCM, I think
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A Hard Days Night is definitely their classic film.
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What game did it change?
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HaileyMcComet:
What game did it change?
It's just an expression Hailey. It's an iconic film!
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SusyLuvsPaul:
ABC is now showing "15 Top Game Changer Films of All Time" as its "Countdown to the Oscars" and lauds "A Hard Day's Night" as the 13th top "game changer" movie-- Oprah Winfrey rhapsodizes over it and another commenter cites "a lack of ego" in the Fabs in that movie "that made us love them so much. And the music!" in that musical was deemed superlative. Its happy go lucky air is another element that made it so much fun.
In reality, it was THE best movie of 1964. Noted film critics, Leonard Maltin and the late Roger Ebert have said as much numerous times over the years.
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Bruce M.:
JoeySmith:
I prefer 'Magical Mystery Tour'. Way ahead of its time. Precursor to Monty Python comedy. The spaghetti scene alone worth the price of admission. Plus, the music videos - simply surreal. Spielberg said it had a big influence on him. I dont know why Paul disparages it every chance he gets.
Uh, because it's nearly unwatchable?
Paul doesn't "disparage" it. He has said it was ahead of its time and better than given credit for...and notes the influence it had on Spielberg. It should never have been initially televised in Britain in black and white. It has some great music and the videos needed to be seen in color, as intended right from the get go.
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"Help!" seems just a big pointless farce (except for the music
) compared to AHDN. "Help!" cartoonish Eastern philosophy aspect is ironic, interesting, thinking of George Harrison's later obsession with Eastern mystery religions. Much more effort and creativity should have gone into the Fabs' followup film to AHDN, which admittedly must have been hard to top, a hard one to follow. It seems even more strange than the silliness of the "Help!" movie that the Beatles were made into cartoons. Takes away some from the music. A bit. -
SusyLuvsPaul:
"Help!" seems just a big pointless farce (except for the music
) compared to AHDN. "Help!" cartoonish Eastern philosophy aspect is ironic, interesting, thinking of George Harrison's later obsession with Eastern mystery religions. Much more effort and creativity should have gone into the Fabs' followup film to AHDN, which admittedly must have been hard to top, a hard one to follow. It seems even more strange than the silliness of the "Help!" movie that the Beatles were made into cartoons. Takes away some from the music. A bit.Wasn't Joe Orton asked to write a screenplay for the Beatles...but then what he came up with was rejected for whatever reason? (Not in keeping with their image???) In the excellent movie "Prick Up Your Ears", there's a scene with Paul McCartney meeting with him to discuss the project. It seemed "Help" was the Beatles saying..."Oh let's go here and let's go there...and then the "screenplay" was developed accordingly. The best parts are the "videos" of the band doing the various great songs in the movie. I particularly loved "You're Going To Lose That Girl" filmed up close with smoke curling around their faces.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
SusyLuvsPaul:
"Help!" seems just a big pointless farce (except for the music
) compared to AHDN. "Help!" cartoonish Eastern philosophy aspect is ironic, interesting, thinking of George Harrison's later obsession with Eastern mystery religions. Much more effort and creativity should have gone into the Fabs' followup film to AHDN, which admittedly must have been hard to top, a hard one to follow. It seems even more strange than the silliness of the "Help!" movie that the Beatles were made into cartoons. Takes away some from the music. A bit.Wasn't Joe Orton asked to write a screenplay for the Beatles...but then what he came up with was rejected for whatever reason? (Not in keeping with their image???) In the excellent movie "Prick Up Your Ears", there's a scene with Paul McCartney meeting with him to discuss the project. It seemed "Help" was the Beatles saying..."Oh let's go here and let's go there...and then the "screenplay" was developed accordingly. The best parts are the "videos" of the band doing the various great songs in the movie. I particularly loved "You're Going To Lose That Girl" filmed up close with smoke curling around their faces.
Joe Orton had already written Up Against It as the next Beatles movie when he was murdered by his lover Kenneth Halliwell (who then committed suicide) It was not rejected and he was to have had a meeting with Richard Lester about the filming of it on the day their bodies were discovered. So sad! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Orton
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Am I the only one who prefers Help over AHDN movie? I found Help to have several more funnier scenes & more enjoy the wild antics of the plot & characters. There is also much more physically humor in Help, as well keeping the clever dialogue. AHDN becomes stale after a while, and is much more slower-paced.
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And "Help!" was in color, while A Hard Day's Night was black and white. The Beatles were running from bad guys in "Help" and from hysterical teenyboppers in AHDN. "Help" had a "McGuffin" --the plot centered around an object, was it a ring or something that the villains desperately sought to procure--similar to Paul's "Broad Street" movie in which the McGuffin was a valuable music tape of Paul's--"McGuffin" type films are generally considered lacking in imagination and plot, not very original--although "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy featured a "ring McGuffin" and was still very well reviewed, highly thought of by many critics and cinema lovers. Oprah Winfrey, for one, said she was completely blown away and bowled over just to see the Fabs up there blown up on the big screen. Said she didn't care what the movie's plot was, just wanted to see them in a movie. She favored AHDN though. Anyway that's the Fabs film she praised in that Oscar films t.v. show last week.
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Nancy R:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
SusyLuvsPaul:
"Help!" seems just a big pointless farce (except for the music
) compared to AHDN. "Help!" cartoonish Eastern philosophy aspect is ironic, interesting, thinking of George Harrison's later obsession with Eastern mystery religions. Much more effort and creativity should have gone into the Fabs' followup film to AHDN, which admittedly must have been hard to top, a hard one to follow. It seems even more strange than the silliness of the "Help!" movie that the Beatles were made into cartoons. Takes away some from the music. A bit.Wasn't Joe Orton asked to write a screenplay for the Beatles...but then what he came up with was rejected for whatever reason? (Not in keeping with their image???) In the excellent movie "Prick Up Your Ears", there's a scene with Paul McCartney meeting with him to discuss the project. It seemed "Help" was the Beatles saying..."Oh let's go here and let's go there...and then the "screenplay" was developed accordingly. The best parts are the "videos" of the band doing the various great songs in the movie. I particularly loved "You're Going To Lose That Girl" filmed up close with smoke curling around their faces.
Joe Orton had already written Up Against It as the next Beatles movie when he was murdered by his lover Kenneth Halliwell (who then committed suicide) It was not rejected and he was to have had a meeting with Richard Lester about the filming of it on the day their bodies were discovered. So sad! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Orton
Thanks. Didn't know all the details. I have no idea what he had in mind for the Beatles. It would be interesting to find out. Did the manuscript ever emerge? Used by someone else?
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Nancy R:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
SusyLuvsPaul:
"Help!" seems just a big pointless farce (except for the music
) compared to AHDN. "Help!" cartoonish Eastern philosophy aspect is ironic, interesting, thinking of George Harrison's later obsession with Eastern mystery religions. Much more effort and creativity should have gone into the Fabs' followup film to AHDN, which admittedly must have been hard to top, a hard one to follow. It seems even more strange than the silliness of the "Help!" movie that the Beatles were made into cartoons. Takes away some from the music. A bit.Wasn't Joe Orton asked to write a screenplay for the Beatles...but then what he came up with was rejected for whatever reason? (Not in keeping with their image???) In the excellent movie "Prick Up Your Ears", there's a scene with Paul McCartney meeting with him to discuss the project. It seemed "Help" was the Beatles saying..."Oh let's go here and let's go there...and then the "screenplay" was developed accordingly. The best parts are the "videos" of the band doing the various great songs in the movie. I particularly loved "You're Going To Lose That Girl" filmed up close with smoke curling around their faces.
Joe Orton had already written Up Against It as the next Beatles movie when he was murdered by his lover Kenneth Halliwell (who then committed suicide) It was not rejected and he was to have had a meeting with Richard Lester about the filming of it on the day their bodies were discovered. So sad! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Orton
I just Googled the synopsis of "Up Against It". I can't imagine the Beatles ever using it. In fact, it had three characters...., none of which sounded appealing. It mentioned that it was returned to Orton....unsigned by Epstein or Lester....and without comment. It was then to be considered as a movie starring Mick Jagger and Ian Mckellen. On the day it might have been signed, Orton was murdered by his lover.
