Why Wouldn't Yoko Let Paul Speak To John?
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I was reading recently in the McCartney biography book that poor Paul wanted to speak to John. But Yoko kept answering the phone and kept saying "We're busy" And just hung up on him? Why? Didn't Yoko even give John a chance to speak to Paul or did John even want to talk to Paul and just let Yoko answer the phone? I found it kind of rude when I read about it. I mean Paul loved John as his best friend yet Yoko wouldn't let Paul speak to John? Is it because she wanted John only for herself and didn't want anyone else to talk to him? Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this question. I think this is partly the reason why I was never really liked Yoko because this was one reason.
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This is the part of Yoko that I hated. but I've come up with a theory that I wrote in a fic once. When John heard Too Many People, he became angry. he knew that song was about him. Yoko felt that Paul was poison to John and had to be eliminated from his life, but she did it with John's persmission. he agreed to let her help him eliminate the bad element from his life. We do know by this time, Paul was suing the three and as Paul put it in the booklet that came with the Ram Delux set, "Conversations were sticky."
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The Beatles breakup was painful to all and they dealt with it in different ways. I can see John being very spiteful and knowing it would be hurtful to deny contact with Paul. They both pushed back through their music.
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maccasfangirl30:
I was reading recently in the McCartney biography book that poor Paul wanted to speak to John. But Yoko kept answering the phone and kept saying "We're busy" And just hung up on him? Why? Didn't Yoko even give John a chance to speak to Paul or did John even want to talk to Paul and just let Yoko answer the phone? I found it kind of rude when I read about it. I mean Paul loved John as his best friend yet Yoko wouldn't let Paul speak to John? Is it because she wanted John only for herself and didn't want anyone else to talk to him? Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this question. I think this is partly the reason why I was never really liked Yoko because this was one reason.
"Poor Paul"? Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic? I think the whole incident has been misread over the years. John also sent Paul away from his door at one point. He told him "it isn't the 60's and you can't just turn up." He was trying to raise a family and he and Paul were not going to hang out together. It doesn't mean he and Paul weren't friends, or didn't talk. They did . But haven't you ever been married and your spouse answers the phone and tells someone you are busy and can't come to the phone right now? It's as simple as that. It wasn't Yoko keeping Paul away from John. But that's what it's been turned into. Sometimes that's just the way it is when you're in a relationship or get married.
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Never been married in my life and I don't plan to. : Cannot trust anyone these days, but to me it seemed that every time Paul tried to phone John Yoko always answered it and hung up on him to me I found it a bit rude. Even if you are raising family you can still set some time aside to chat for a few minutes on the phone with an old friend. It's a shame people always make up some execuse to avoid enemies or old arguements...didn't they ever hear of the old saying "defeat them with kindness?" Life's too short to hold grudges.
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I think I remember a quote from somewhere that may pertain to this. Can't quite place who said it; might have been Ghandi, or Joan of Arc, or maybe Frankie Valli: "Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting, my friend."
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steven ambrozat:
I think I remember a quote from somewhere that may pertain to this. Can't quite place who said it; might have been Ghandi, or Joan of Arc, or maybe Frankie Valli: "Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting, my friend."
Totally agree...I think Paul should have been given a chance to talk with John. Paul doesn't seem the type to hold grudges. He seems to like to keep long friendships.
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beatlesfanrandy:
maccasfangirl30:
I was reading recently in the McCartney biography book that poor Paul wanted to speak to John. But Yoko kept answering the phone and kept saying "We're busy" And just hung up on him? Why? Didn't Yoko even give John a chance to speak to Paul or did John even want to talk to Paul and just let Yoko answer the phone? I found it kind of rude when I read about it. I mean Paul loved John as his best friend yet Yoko wouldn't let Paul speak to John? Is it because she wanted John only for herself and didn't want anyone else to talk to him? Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this question. I think this is partly the reason why I was never really liked Yoko because this was one reason.
"Poor Paul"? Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic? I think the whole incident has been misread over the years. John also sent Paul away from his door at one point. He told him "it isn't the 60's and you can't just turn up." He was trying to raise a family and he and Paul were not going to hang out together. It doesn't mean he and Paul weren't friends, or didn't talk. They did . But haven't you ever been married and your spouse answers the phone and tells someone you are busy and can't come to the phone right now? It's as simple as that. It wasn't Yoko keeping Paul away from John. But that's what it's been turned into. Sometimes that's just the way it is when you're in a relationship or get married.
I have been married for 10 years (longer than John and Yoko at that point) and I have to say it's not "as simple as that." My wife would never tell a friend who called that I am too busy to talk and I would never think of doing that either. I will let her make that decision - she can think for herself. I think you're letting Yoko off the hook here a little too easily. She may have had her reasons - as misguided as they may have been - and that's for her to live with. But to chalk it up to she was just letting Paul know that John was busy and can't come to the phone is simply laughable. And I'm sorry - you don't turn "friends" away who show up at your door. Again, I have 3 kids and if any of my old friends knocked on my door, I'd let them in in a heartbeat. It doesn't mean we are going to sit around and get hammered - hell, I might even put them on diaper duty! But I certainly would never shut the door on a friend's face.
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LiveForever:
beatlesfanrandy:
maccasfangirl30:
I was reading recently in the McCartney biography book that poor Paul wanted to speak to John. But Yoko kept answering the phone and kept saying "We're busy" And just hung up on him? Why? Didn't Yoko even give John a chance to speak to Paul or did John even want to talk to Paul and just let Yoko answer the phone? I found it kind of rude when I read about it. I mean Paul loved John as his best friend yet Yoko wouldn't let Paul speak to John? Is it because she wanted John only for herself and didn't want anyone else to talk to him? Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this question. I think this is partly the reason why I was never really liked Yoko because this was one reason.
"Poor Paul"? Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic? I think the whole incident has been misread over the years. John also sent Paul away from his door at one point. He told him "it isn't the 60's and you can't just turn up." He was trying to raise a family and he and Paul were not going to hang out together. It doesn't mean he and Paul weren't friends, or didn't talk. They did . But haven't you ever been married and your spouse answers the phone and tells someone you are busy and can't come to the phone right now? It's as simple as that. It wasn't Yoko keeping Paul away from John. But that's what it's been turned into. Sometimes that's just the way it is when you're in a relationship or get married.
I have been married for 10 years (longer than John and Yoko at that point) and I have to say it's not "as simple as that." My wife would never tell a friend who called that I am too busy to talk and I would never think of doing that either. I will let her make that decision - she can think for herself. I think you're letting Yoko off the hook here a little too easily. She may have had her reasons - as misguided as they may have been - and that's for her to live with. But to chalk it up to she was just letting Paul know that John was busy and can't come to the phone is simply laughable. And I'm sorry - you don't turn "friends" away who show up at your door. Again, I have 3 kids and if any of my old friends knocked on my door, I'd let them in in a heartbeat. It doesn't mean we are going to sit around and get hammered - hell, I might even put them on diaper duty! But I certainly would never shut the door on a friend's face.
I don't have any kids myself, but I have tons of friends that do, and they would never do that either!
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I can understand keeping John away from his lost weekend 'friends'; Nilsson and Moon, but not Paul. Even Jagger complained that Yoko wouldn't let him talk to John. Why was Yoko so threatened by John and Paul's relationship? John was adamant that he left Paul behind as a collaborator when he met Yoko.
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It was a shame what Yoko did to Paul regarding his note to John about the upcoming Double Fantasy album. Especially so close to the tragedy.
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JoeySmith:
It was a shame what Yoko did to Paul regarding his note to John about the upcoming Double Fantasy album. Especially so close to the tragedy.
please explain. I don't think I've heard this before
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dcshark:
JoeySmith:
It was a shame what Yoko did to Paul regarding his note to John about the upcoming Double Fantasy album. Especially so close to the tragedy.
please explain. I don't think I've heard this before
Not so sure I have either....
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Its in one of many books about Lennon, that Paul allegedly wrote John a note to congratulate him on DS, and to contact him. "Mother" thought best not to give John the note. However, in Fred Seaman's book, it would seem Yoko was waaaayyyy to preoccupied with other things to even see a note like this. Who knows.
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dcshark:
I can understand keeping John away from his lost weekend 'friends'; Nilsson and Moon, but not Paul. Even Jagger complained that Yoko wouldn't let him talk to John. Why was Yoko so threatened by John and Paul's relationship? John was adamant that he left Paul behind as a collaborator when he met Yoko.
That's a new one to me...even Mick Jaggar didn't get to talk to John because of Yoko? She sounds like one of those people who likes to control other's lives on who they can talk to....I don't like people like that at all. Im sure John would have spoken to Paul eventually.
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beatlesfanrandy:
maccasfangirl30:
I was reading recently in the McCartney biography book that poor Paul wanted to speak to John. But Yoko kept answering the phone and kept saying "We're busy" And just hung up on him? Why? Didn't Yoko even give John a chance to speak to Paul or did John even want to talk to Paul and just let Yoko answer the phone? I found it kind of rude when I read about it. I mean Paul loved John as his best friend yet Yoko wouldn't let Paul speak to John? Is it because she wanted John only for herself and didn't want anyone else to talk to him? Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this question. I think this is partly the reason why I was never really liked Yoko because this was one reason.
"Poor Paul"? Don't you think you're being a little overdramatic? I think the whole incident has been misread over the years. John also sent Paul away from his door at one point. He told him "it isn't the 60's and you can't just turn up." He was trying to raise a family and he and Paul were not going to hang out together. It doesn't mean he and Paul weren't friends, or didn't talk. They did . But haven't you ever been married and your spouse answers the phone and tells someone you are busy and can't come to the phone right now? It's as simple as that. It wasn't Yoko keeping Paul away from John. But that's what it's been turned into. Sometimes that's just the way it is when you're in a relationship or get married.
Yoko keeping Paul's calls and letters from John have become the stuff of legend. It may or may not have happened as the legends say (they certainly sent each other enough postcards that ended up on auction) but nearly John's all other friends also thought Yoko kept him from them