THE SOUND OF "BROWN SUGAR" DIES
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BOBBY KEYS (1943 - 2014) OBITUARY: PLAYED WITH JOHN (?Walls and Bridges" ["Whatever Get You Through The Night"], ?Some Time in New York City,” ?Rock ?n Roll? & "Mind Games") RINGO (?Ringo? and ?Goodnight Vienna,?) and GEORGE ("All Things Must Past"): http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rolling-stones-saxophonist-bobby-keys-dead-at-70-20141202 Variety: http://variety.com/2014/music/news/rolling-stones-saxophonist-bobby-keys-dies-at-70-1201368953/ LAST ROLLING STONE INTERVIEW - HE KNEW (not real well) BUDDY HOLLY! http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/bobby-keys-the-lost-rolling-stone-interview-20141202?page=2 You knew Buddy Holly early on. What was he like? I didn't know Buddy real well because he was older than me. There's a big social difference in a four or five year age difference. I remember one afternoon, he was out on his front porch and he was sitting in rocking chair. And I just wandered over across the street from my aunt's house. And he was saying, "You know Robert, I believe I'm gonna make it." And I look him and I say, "I don't think so, I just don't see it, pal." I was just kidding. Buddy was a pretty energetic fella. He was the first guy I heard play electric guitar, and it impressed the hell out of me. http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/dec/02/bobby-keys-five-great-performances-rolling-stones-john-lennon Keys was beloved by the Beatles as well as the Stones. Shared the same birthday with Keith Richards - 18 December 1943.
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I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
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I've seen The Stones live 40 times, it will not be the same seeing The Stones live without Bobby Keys, he will be missed. R.I.P. Bobby Keys.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
"I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key" One of John Lennon's guitar strings was out of tune so Lennon knew that was his guitar on any Lennon/Beatle recording.
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Bobby Keys will be missed. I saw him with the Stones in Albuquerque in 1997, he had family here in New Mexico and Mick made a big deal out of it, which the crowd loved.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
I think I may have been influenced by....sort of...or maybe had my opinion "validated" to some extent when I read that Klaus Voorman, who played bass on the album, lamented the one take only on the song...and commented about how "off" the sax solo was. But....John said it sounded good enough to him, so that was it. John did like to work quickly and move on to the next one. I'll try and give it another listen.
Actually, I have another complaint with the song....now that I think about it: John seems to be singing back-up to Elton John. Elton's voice seems much too prominent. 
Elton was the big star in '74 and it sort of came off, to me, as if he may have thought he was doing John a favor. And maybe he was!!! 
But....I do see your point about all that.....and about Bob Dylan. When one goes to his concerts, he just barely speaks and does his songs exactly how he wants to do them......if there's any resemblance to the original, it most likely wasn't his intention. I do sort of like his "croakiness". I bought "Roll On John" for that alone. And, yes, Paul's "Hosanna". is a bit "real". I'm still deciding on that one. It kind of comes off as if he's searching for a melody and doesn't quite find one. LOL And Ringo never quite hitting the notes does have a certain charm. So...... -
jimmix:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
"I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key" One of John Lennon's guitar strings was out of tune so Lennon knew that was his guitar on any Lennon/Beatle recording.
Now that you mention it....I've always thought the acoustic guitar ending on "I'll Be Back" was a bit off....like one gutar was slightly off. Could that be the explanation? No one on the radio ever mentioned it.....and no one else ever did that I'm aware of...on this forum or elsewhere, so I thought maybe it was just me.
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Bobby Keys played sax on: John Lennon and Paul McCartney: A Toot and a Snore in '74
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An eponymous solo album was released by WEA France c. 1970. He also appears on: The Rolling Stones: Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main St., Goats Head Soup, Emotional Rescue, Stripped, Shine a Light Live Licks, Sweet Summer Sun Joe Cocker: Mad Dogs & Englishmen George Harrison: All Things Must Pass John Lennon: Some Time in New York City, Walls and Bridges, Rock 'n' Roll Keith Richards: Talk Is Cheap, Live at the Hollywood Palladium Ringo Starr: Ringo, Goodnight Vienna Ronnie Wood: 1234, Gimme Some Neck, Mahoney's Last Stand B.B. King: B.B. King in London Barbra Streisand: Barbra Joan Streisand Carly Simon: No Secrets, Hotcakes Chuck Berry: Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll Delaney, Bonnie & Friends: On Tour with Eric Clapton, Accept No Substitutes Donovan: Cosmic Wheels Dr. John: The Sun, Moon & Herbs Eric Clapton: Eric Clapton Faces: Long Player Harry Nilsson: Nilsson Schmilsson, Son of Schmilsson, Pussy Cats, Duit on Mon Dei Warren Zevon: Warren Zevon Humble Pie: Rock On Joe Ely: Lord of the Highway John Hiatt: Beneath This Gruff Exterior Kate and Anna McGarrigle: Kate and Anna McGarrigle Keith Moon: Two Sides of the Moon Leo Sayer: Endless Flight Lynyrd Skynyrd: Second Helping John Lennon and Paul McCartney: A Toot and a Snore in '74 John Lennon: Whatever Gets You thru the Night Marvin Gaye: Let's Get It On (deluxe edition) Sheryl Crow: The Globe Sessions Yoko Ono: Fly Jim Carroll: Catholic Boy Graham Nash: Songs for Beginners Joe A. Collier: Sonny Joe Blues Band
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jimmix:
Bobby Keys played sax on: John Lennon and Paul McCartney: A Toot and a Snore in '74
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
I think I may have been influenced by....sort of...or maybe had my opinion "validated" to some extent when I read that Klaus Voorman, who played bass on the album, lamented the one take only on the song...and commented about how "off" the sax solo was. But....John said it sounded good enough to him, so that was it. John did like to work quickly and move on to the next one. I'll try and give it another listen.
Actually, I have another complaint with the song....now that I think about it: John seems to be singing back-up to Elton John. Elton's voice seems much too prominent. Elton was the big star in '74 and it sort of came off, to me, as if he may have thought he was doing John a favor. And maybe he was!!! But....I do see your point about all that.....and about Bob Dylan. When one goes to his concerts, he just barely speaks and does his songs exactly how he wants to do them......if there's any resemblance to the original, it most likely wasn't his intention. I do sort of like his "croakiness". I bought "Roll On John" for that alone. And, yes, Paul's "Hosanna". is a bit "real". I'm still deciding on that one. It kind of comes off as if he's searching for a melody and doesn't quite find one. LOL And Ringo never quite hitting the notes does have a certain charm. So...... Yes, Elton was definitely mixed too high in "Whatever...", not to mention on "Bad Blood" by Neil Sedaka!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
What about Paul's horrendous vocal in Hold Me Tight? Meanders all over the place like a railway track after an earthquake!
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moptops:
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
What about Paul's horrendous vocal in Hold Me Tight? Meanders all over the place like a railway track after an earthquake!
It's kind of too early in their recording careers....and insufficient production values on the part of George Martin to "hold" Paul accountable. George Martin really didn't take much time on the first couple of albums.
I don't really think of Paul's vocal as wandering all over the place on the song. I do, however, like your analogy of the vocal to that of "Meanders...like a railway track after an earthquake". That's quite good!!! -
moptops:
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I didn't realize he played on so many (solo) Beatles-related projects..or how extensive his work was with the Stones. Not to speak ill of the departed, but I thought his solo on John's "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" was so off key (no pun intended) that the song was ruined. I can't listen to it. It's just this 'braying' sound. Sorry to learn of his passing, however.
I have to disagree about that solo. Perhaps it is a bit off-key, now that you mention it, but I guess that adds to the funkiness of it, because I enjoy it. I think "off-key" can sometimes result in a kind of charm, or realness, in things like Paul's "Riding Into Jaipur" or "Hosanna." Not to mention some of Ringo's vocals. And just think of all the awards and accolades for Bob Dylan!
What about Paul's horrendous vocal in Hold Me Tight? Meanders all over the place like a railway track after an earthquake!
It's Rock'n'Roll. It isn't meant to be perfect!
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