Paul McCartney 2014 Rumors
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javilu:
...I am puzzled so little seats are sold for McCartney conerts in the US. You mention 13,000, 18,000 while over here a McCartney concert attendance would go from 45,000 to 60,000. And then people wonder why he comes to South America each year since 2010
Dodger Stadium Aug. 10th - 52,605 sold out. Candlestick Park Aug. 14th - 53,477 sold out.
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javilu:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
Where is this "determination"? The shows were cancelled almost four months ago. They're goners.
Beyond the illness, something else must have gone wrong with these shows.
They never quite sat right with me. They seemed very rushed from day one. I think Paul's team was trying to turn Japan into the next North/South America and get stops going every 6 months or so as they have before. Just searching for another economy to over-saturate. Yes, that's finally happened. Don't get me wrong I won't stop going, but this is the first summer since '09 where I haven't heard of the constant or instant sell outs.
Yeah, I agree, I am not convinced they were all sell outs this year even if they said they were. I think Costa Rica did not sell out. Albany, different attendances were reported, anywhere from 13,500 to 17,000. Which means the former was probably closer to the truth. The Salt Lake City review said a near-sold out arena, and so did a couple of others. Fargo was 18,000, where as the Stones had about 21,000 there, so that was not a sell out. He still made the no. 1 spot on Billboard!
Mr. Martinez, I am puzzled so little seats are sold for McCartney conerts in the US. You mention 13,000, 18,000 while over here a McCartney concert attendance would go from 45,000 to 60,000. And then people wonder why he comes to South America each year since 2010
Many are arenas, indoors. He does a mix here of arenas and stadiums.
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I'm glad that he does arena gigs. I don't like outdoor shows.
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I wonder how come it is good business for a promoter to do a 13k seat show instead of a 50k?
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javilu:
I wonder how come it is good business for a promoter to do a 13k seat show instead of a 50k?
Maybe a 13K-seater in America generates larger or as much revenue as a 50K-seater in S.A.?
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Someone has just mentioned that there are negotiations for at least two shows in Argentina in november.
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audi:
javilu:
I wonder how come it is good business for a promoter to do a 13k seat show instead of a 50k?
Maybe a 13K-seater in America generates larger or as much revenue as a 50K-seater in S.A.?
I don't know. Tickets here cost an arm and leg.
5th-beatle:
Someone has just mentioned that there are negotiations for at least two shows in Argentina in november.
I've heard that too. Argentina and Brazil in November. Fingers crossed!
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javilu:
I've heard that too. Argentina and Brazil in November. Fingers crossed!
Just like 2010. Maybe Mexico too?
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Maybe sponsors in the US pay a lot more. Fenix is bringing the Stones to Argentina so I guess T4F will do their best to bring McCartney this time edit: Now I remember that James is coming here in November
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audi:
I'm glad that he does arena gigs. I don't like outdoor shows.
I prefer the arenas, too, but I remember how impressed I was at the 1990 stadium show. Still, stadiums are just annoying to get into and out of, as we know from San Francisco, especially.
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FC15:
Maybe sponsors in the US pay a lot more. Fenix is bringing the Stones to Argentina so I guess T4F will do their best to bring McCartney this time edit: Now I remember that James is coming here in November
Yes, as part of the Personal Fest.
favoritething:
audi:
I'm glad that he does arena gigs. I don't like outdoor shows.
I prefer the arenas, too, but I remember how impressed I was at the 1990 stadium show. Still, stadiums are just annoying to get into and out of, as we know from San Francisco, especially.
That's because you live in a country where most people have cars
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WixRocks!:
I think Paul has a different idea of "unusual" than I do. As far as I'm concerned, if Paul is playing anywhere in the States.....it is NOT unusual. I obviously don't want it to stop, but I really wouldn't say he's been living up to his word on that one.
Indeed on both counts!
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I'm not sure what people are talking about. Every show this summer has been a sellout. Billboard is the most credible outlet there is when it comes to reporting box scores. They do it for everybody, and have no incentive to spin the numbers in the artist's favor. When it comes to counting every ticket sold and every dollar made, they are incredibly accurate, regardless of what local newspaper reporters wrote.
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brettb3:
I'm not sure what people are talking about. Every show this summer has been a sellout. Billboard is the most credible outlet there is when it comes to reporting box scores. They do it for everybody, and have no incentive to spin the numbers in the artist's favor. When it comes to counting every ticket sold and every dollar made, they are incredibly accurate, regardless of what local newspaper reporters wrote.
Pittsburgh didn't sell out. I don't care what billboard or anyone else said, they were still releasing tickets as the doors opened and there were gaps, note: VERY minor gaps, in the seating that evening. This is the over-saturation I spoke of. Paul was JUST there with TWO nights four years ago and had no problem selling them both out. This year he almost sold one night out.
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I think most venues of this type release seats on the day of the show, seats that had been held for VIPs or industry people or the like, right? The show can still be considered a sellout, because the tickets had been "spoken for" even if they weren't eventually used, I believe. The gaps in the seating could be people who just couldn't make it at the last minute (got sick, had to do business travel, all kinds of reasons). That's my impression of how things work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Fargo show I went to had a large and enthusiastic crowd. I did make a point to look around right before the lights went down. I noticed one or two sections at the top and in the back, furthest away from the stage, appearing to be pretty empty. But the rest of the place looked full.
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The term sellout has a very vague meaning nowadays.
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Are people taking the secondary market of resellers into account? At one point there were more than 8,000 tickets for Candlestick available on stubhub.com alone. Some of those tickets don't get bought. So a concert can sell out and still be left with empty seats, because the resellers fail to sell their overpriced tickets by showtime. Others can buy tickets and fail to make it to the event for one reason or other, as we have heard about the folks who couldn't get in to Candlestick Park. One thing I can say for sure is that most everyone who bought a ticket to Dodger Stadium was there. The place was packed, with hardly an empty seat to be seen.
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KingMacca:
The term sellout has a very vague meaning nowadays.
Exactly.
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SingtheChanges:
The Fargo show I went to had a large and enthusiastic crowd. I did make a point to look around right before the lights went down. I noticed one or two sections at the top and in the back, furthest away from the stage, appearing to be pretty empty. But the rest of the place looked full.
That means it was not a sell out. A large crowd? Yes. A sell out, with every seat taken? No.