New - Track-by-track thoughts
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The songs I'm most likely to skip are Road and Early Days. *waits for abuse* They're still good songs, but you need to be in the right mood for them. I dunno. The good thing is, normally, the songs I'm not crazy about I end up being crazy about, but later on. I find this with Elvis Costello's music, too. I could listen to a song and think "...Meh. It's nothing too special" and a few months later I'm suddenly aaaaaaaaaall about it!
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Someone said a "sweet ballad" is missing from "New" but isn't "Hosanna" a slow, sweet sounding ditty?
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Someone said a "sweet ballad" is missing from "New" but isn't "Hosanna" a slow, sweet sounding ditty?
That would've been me. To me, Hosanna is far off sweet. It meanders between dull and duller, really interrupts the flow of the album. A successful sweet melodious ballad would have been a great kick-off into I Can Bet and kept the momentum of the album going. Not a fan of Hosanna.
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Why don't you consider "Scared" a "sweet love song"? "Hosanna sounds pretty and tender to me, although some of the lyrics could have been more romantic. "Scared" is one I found replaying in my noggin today. Growing on me, its stark beauty...made me long to hear "The Long and Winding Road," another great piano number from him, stripped down without the Phil Spector trappings... and wished I still had "Let it Be Naked."
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Hosanna and Scared are not even in the same universe as Long and Winding Road.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Someone said a "sweet ballad" is missing from "New" but isn't "Hosanna" a slow, sweet sounding ditty?
No.
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Bruce M.:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Someone said a "sweet ballad" is missing from "New" but isn't "Hosanna" a slow, sweet sounding ditty?
No.
Ha ha, no better descriptive could encapsulate the answer there.... Quite simply "No". A blunt and non-fussed "No". I agree. Wholeheartedly. And as for Scared?.... well that is so bereft of sweetness it's like chewing a lolly that has been doused in kerosene for a month.... a terrible song. A piece of gum that has been stuck under a diner table since 1945 has more sweetness. But I am starting to repeat myself. I do lament the absence of a bona fide ballad or two on this album. Missing in action.
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Ammar:
RMartinez:
Ammar:
Andrewhh:
Track 10 - I Can Bet Produced by Giles Martin. This is McCartney at his poppy best. It's like the best Wings single that never was. It has a fantastic swagger to it that is epitomized by the line "What I'm gonna do next, I'll leave entirely to your imagination". There's a guitar riff in there somewhere that reminds me of something on "Memory Almost Full" and a short synth solo that is pure Wings. But then there are some aspects of the production that place it firmly in the present. The trippy ending is cool.
Strange! the chorus is copied directly from"Get Back"! melody & guitar riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can bet you?ll never guess - Get Back the way you once belonged otherwise the song is very strong and I like his voice here, the most amazing part is: Cause what I?m gonna do next I leave entirely to your imagination the way the words sit on the melody is another way of showing how genius this man is not only in melody but in lyrics.
Songwriters can nick ideas from themselves, and often do. Listen to Prince's 1999 then the melody he uses on MANIC MONDAY, the song he wrote for the Bangles. The verses are almost exact.
and why did you think I'm criticizing Paul for that?? please read carefully why I stated that before being defensive. someone stated this song is similar to ...., while I find the chorus copied from an old classic by Paul himself without any negative intention. However, (since you brought that) I think comparing Prince as songwriter with Paul in nicking ideas from themselves is a bit unacceptable. Paul McCartney is the best songwriter in history!
Comparing Get Back to I Can Bet is ..... well, they sound nothing alike. True, the little "breathing riff" involves a slide up a fret followed by three punctuated notes. That's about as close as the similarity gets. The notes are not even the same. One song is pop, the other one of the more seminal rock songs of our time. As distant as Venus and Mars. And that's a long way. In Get Me Out of Here, there are eight downward strums on the guitar, just like there are on I've Got a Feeling.... But still, completely different songs.... Long straw.
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toris:
The notes are not even the same.
yeh, exactly.
simplyrahil:
Ammar:
Strange! the chorus is copied directly from"Get Back"! melody & guitar riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can bet you?ll never guess - Get Back the way you once belonged otherwise the song is very strong and I like his voice here, the most amazing part is: Cause what I?m gonna do next I leave entirely to your imagination the way the words sit on the melody is another way of showing how genius this man is not only in melody but in lyrics.
well i wouldn't say 'copied directly' but more of a reflection i also felt/heard the same similarity with 'get back' that you speak of when i first listened to 'i can bet', but the reality is this: (bass notes) _____ D_ A B C_B__ A I can bet you?ll never guess ___ A__ E_F#_G___ A__E F#G Get Back Get Back ___ D___________________A G F# Get Back to where you once belonged so yes, there is similarity because both chorus melodies are based on a 7 th note back ('i can bet' being a change from D to C, while 'get back' A to G) but that sort of progression is like standard " rock 'n' roll " and classic soul/r&b anyway which has contributed to a lot of Macca's upbeat basslines, so no 'direct copy' but rather influence
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toris:
Bruce M.:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Someone said a "sweet ballad" is missing from "New" but isn't "Hosanna" a slow, sweet sounding ditty?
No.
Ha ha, no better descriptive could encapsulate the answer there.... Quite simply "No". A blunt and non-fussed "No". I agree. Wholeheartedly. And as for Scared?.... well that is so bereft of sweetness it's like chewing a lolly that has been doused in kerosene for a month.... a terrible song. A piece of gum that has been stuck under a diner table since 1945 has more sweetness. But I am starting to repeat myself. I do lament the absence of a bona fide ballad or two on this album. Missing in action.
No is all you need.
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oobu24:
No is all you need.
Ha ha. True! Sorry, I can't help myself sometimes. I have this incessant need to embellish on occasion. ps. "No is all you need" is almost as poignant as "Love is all you need". A worthy precursor. "she loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah".
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To each his own. I like both Hosanna and Scared. Hosanna (like Appreciate) gives NEW diversity. The melody is atypical for Macca. Not light and breezy but heavy and dark. Love the overall production too. Does make you feel like you're right on the ocean at sunrise. Doesn't mess up the album in any way...changes the mood but that is good in my opinion. I only wish that we could hear Paul's 35 year old voice on Hosanna. The song itself is yet another example of Paul's tremendous diversity in song composition. Scared took me longer to like than any track on NEW and it is the piano ballad on NEW. Typically, Paul's piano melodies grab you instantly (i.e. Let It Be, My Valentine) but the melody on Scared took me longer to absorb. It is more subtle but after repeated listens (from playing the entire album) I like it. I like Paul's deeper. older voice on this one and the honesty of the lyrics. I'm not comparing either song to great Macca classics, but I like them. They aren't the best songs on NEW but in my mind they are good tracks and do not in any way spoil the overall CD. Call me old fashion, but I still like to listen to complete albums. In this way, NEW is a very good album and yet another example of Paul's very underrated Post Beatles career. I can go from beginning to end (including the bonus tracks) and find it very enjoyable.
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Ammar:
RMartinez:
Ammar:
Andrewhh:
Track 10 - I Can Bet Produced by Giles Martin. This is McCartney at his poppy best. It's like the best Wings single that never was. It has a fantastic swagger to it that is epitomized by the line "What I'm gonna do next, I'll leave entirely to your imagination". There's a guitar riff in there somewhere that reminds me of something on "Memory Almost Full" and a short synth solo that is pure Wings. But then there are some aspects of the production that place it firmly in the present. The trippy ending is cool.
Strange! the chorus is copied directly from"Get Back"! melody & guitar riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can bet you?ll never guess - Get Back the way you once belonged otherwise the song is very strong and I like his voice here, the most amazing part is: Cause what I?m gonna do next I leave entirely to your imagination the way the words sit on the melody is another way of showing how genius this man is not only in melody but in lyrics.
Songwriters can nick ideas from themselves, and often do. Listen to Prince's 1999 then the melody he uses on MANIC MONDAY, the song he wrote for the Bangles. The verses are almost exact.
and why did you think I'm criticizing Paul for that?? please read carefully why I stated that before being defensive. someone stated this song is similar to ...., while I find the chorus copied from an old classic by Paul himself without any negative intention. However, (since you brought that) I think comparing Prince as songwriter with Paul in nicking ideas from themselves is a bit unacceptable. Paul McCartney is the best songwriter in history!
Settlle down! If YOU would read carefully, you would note I was just making a point that IT HAPPENS!! And I am correct, as I provided proof from a successful artist. Whether you think Prince is in McCartney's league or not means nothing. On a McCartney fan site, I suspect many would think not. However, Prince is a very successful international artist, so I think it is a great example, if I do say so myself! BTW, I Can Bet does not sound like Get Back.
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If "I Can Bet" sounds like "Get Back," then "Helter Skelter" sounds like "The Halleluiah Chorus" from Handel's Messiah.
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B J Conlee:
To each his own. I like both Hosanna and Scared.
They are my favourite tracks on the album. Hosanna has that same sultry late summer's evening feel that made You Tell Me (from MAF) such a stand out track. Both could have been written and recorded at the same time even though that isn't actually the case. Scared features Paul's most poignant vocal performance in years....its just brilliant,especially on the last line.
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audi:
If "I Can Bet" sounds like "Get Back," then "Helter Skelter" sounds like "The Halleluiah Chorus" from Handel's Messiah.
Actually, it does! And if you play Messiah backwards while watching "The Wizard of Oz" you get the real story of Paul's death and the cover-up! And who was really on the grassy knoll to boot!!!
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Hello all - haven't posted in awhile. A few thoughts on the NEW album.... I believe it's quite a good album overall with some great tracks - particularly including "New" (a masterpiece of a single - the best since My Brave Face and will stand up against any Beatles era songs), Appreciate (sounds like a great '86 Press To Play outtake - could be a hit single now if released and promoted well as such), and Alligator (great melody, chords, and guitar riffs). Downside is that NEW as an album has no great ballad and no great all out rocker. Sorry, Hosanna is very mediocre - shouldn't have made the album. Also think that Save Us is quite mediocre by Paul rocker standards - no grit and melody & vocal is pretty weak on that one as well (not even in the same league as Figure Of Eight, About You, No Values or countless other great Paul rockers). All that said, though, certainly still some truly great moments on New (Queenie Eye also being a good one)...and very glad Paul is continuing to give us new music to enjoy
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Bruce M.:
audi:
If "I Can Bet" sounds like "Get Back," then "Helter Skelter" sounds like "The Halleluiah Chorus" from Handel's Messiah.
Actually, it does! And if you play Messiah backwards while watching "The Wizard of Oz" you get the real story of Paul's death and the cover-up! And who was really on the grassy knoll to boot!!!
Touche!
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RMartinez:
Ammar:
RMartinez:
Ammar:
Andrewhh:
Track 10 - I Can Bet Produced by Giles Martin. This is McCartney at his poppy best. It's like the best Wings single that never was. It has a fantastic swagger to it that is epitomized by the line "What I'm gonna do next, I'll leave entirely to your imagination". There's a guitar riff in there somewhere that reminds me of something on "Memory Almost Full" and a short synth solo that is pure Wings. But then there are some aspects of the production that place it firmly in the present. The trippy ending is cool.
Strange! the chorus is copied directly from"Get Back"! melody & guitar riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can Bet - Get Back same riff I can bet you?ll never guess - Get Back the way you once belonged otherwise the song is very strong and I like his voice here, the most amazing part is: Cause what I?m gonna do next I leave entirely to your imagination the way the words sit on the melody is another way of showing how genius this man is not only in melody but in lyrics.
Songwriters can nick ideas from themselves, and often do. Listen to Prince's 1999 then the melody he uses on MANIC MONDAY, the song he wrote for the Bangles. The verses are almost exact.
and why did you think I'm criticizing Paul for that?? please read carefully why I stated that before being defensive. someone stated this song is similar to ...., while I find the chorus copied from an old classic by Paul himself without any negative intention. However, (since you brought that) I think comparing Prince as songwriter with Paul in nicking ideas from themselves is a bit unacceptable. Paul McCartney is the best songwriter in history!
Settlle down! If YOU would read carefully, you would note I was just making a point that IT HAPPENS!! And I am correct, as I provided proof from a successful artist. Whether you think Prince is in McCartney's league or not means nothing. On a McCartney fan site, I suspect many would think not. However, Prince is a very successful international artist, so I think it is a great example, if I do say so myself! BTW, I Can Bet does not sound like Get Back.
You settle down!! whether you think Prince is the same as Paul McCartney that means nothing to me or any of Macca fans. you can go listen and adore whoever you want but don't insult people or speak like you know better than others here! if you have a point to discuss say it with respect. you made a point and I replied to you, that's it!
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audi:
If "I Can Bet" sounds like "Get Back," then "Helter Skelter" sounds like "The Halleluiah Chorus" from Handel's Messiah.
really funny!! by the way read carefully my post. if a chorus is similar to a song that doesn't mean a song completely sounds similar! and i insist the chorus is similar in structure and guitar riff whether you like it or not that's your problem! if you have a musical opinion about it say it and discuss here before making great jokes!