New in the Charts Thread
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NUMBER ONE
Sun of a gun we'll have some fun on the bayou! Jeeze Louis Please, this news has brought me to my knees--don't you wish, he's quite a dish, you were a Paul Squeeze but not just 'cause he's NUMBER ONE
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The first returns are in from the U.S.! HitsDailyDouble.com keeps a running tally as sales figures come in on Monday and Tuesday -- usually the data arrives in about 4 chunks over the course of 2 days. Right now, with about 31% in, Paul is at #2, ahead of Miley: http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi Understand that this is NOT a guarantee that the standings will stay this way, they do shift as the numbers come in. It would help make sense of these partial stats to know what sources are coming in first, but they don't seem to tell you that.
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streetlegal:
I see Dylan keeps cropping up in this discussion and it reminded me of something Bob said ( this is from the liner notes of his Tell Tale Signs Bootleg Series album) it's probably from the late 90's or early 2000's: "I was beginning to encounter a different audience at my shows...a younger audience...My usual audience, which had followed me from sometime in the sixties, were locked in a certain time warp. They liked to hear the old songs and the old songs were fine ...(but) I sort of was betting on my new audience and I kinda forgot about the old one." Bob didn't stop playing the old songs ( although he just about has done now with only 3 songs in the main set -1 from the 60's & 2 from the 70's) but there was/is nothing nostalgic about his shows. The combination of constant year on year touring and the refusal to look back obviously rules out filling the massive stadiums and Arena's Paul regularly fills but this audience is where the number one records come from. I have friends younger than me who have Dylan's most recent albums but not his older ones and I also know people who hate how he sounds now and don't buy his records any more. I think this is what Dylan was talking about in the above quote-he has found a new audience who don't 'judge' him on what he used to be but are interested in what he's doing now. Is it a surprise when Paul struggles ( relatively) to sell new records when his shows are pretty much all about the past-everyone here is interested in his new music & I'm sure the more casual fans would be if only he'd play more of it live-even a perfect PR campaign would be far less effective than playing more recent tunes in front of tens of thousands of people! Mccartney is ( not was) a genius -even a cursory listen to his recent albums proves he remains a brilliant writer but I can't help thinking he has shot himself in the foot by years of touring sets dominated by the old favourites-it provides plenty of ammunition for the fools who dislike him to dismiss him as a has-been. In the current youth obsessed, flavour of the month pop scene, the only realistic way for older musicians to reach a wide audience with their new material is in the live setting. If New had been released during one of the legs of a Paul tour ( assuming he played a reasonable number of the songs) it almost certainly would have topped the US charts.
COULDN`T AGRRE MORE ! Paul seems to feel obliged to sell out arenas and stadiums. Can`t be the money right? No it`s the I am an Ex Beatle and I have to sell out stadiums...even at the cost of a setlist 2/3 of which are drawn entirely from the sixties. Why would we be surprised that everybody outside this board thinks he is an oldies act ? That`s the message Paul himself puts across!It`s such a shame, because people don`t even bother with his new stuff. The hardcore fans buy it in the first two weeks and then it vanishes. WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE "MY STUFF FROM THE PAST 40 YEARS IS HARDLY WORTH PLAYING LIVE" THEY END UP BELIEVING YOU !
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Maybe Macca will emulate Dylan's "business model" at some point. Even if he's not chasing "number ones" it still appears he's fixated on selling out the gigantic venues. He wasn't, so much, apparently, when Chaos and Creation came out and he did a handful of songs from that album, in somewhat smaller venues.
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God I`m such a dork...Can somebody please tell me how to properly quote previous posts?
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Sir Guy Grand:
It's such a disappointment that Paul as only had 22 UK # 1 albums and 25 US # 1 albums in his 50 year career . Bob Dylan as had 7 UK # 1 albums and 5 US # 1 Albums , David Bowie as had 9 UK # 1 albums and hasn't had a US # 1 album . Yes Paul hasn't had a solo number 1 album for years like Dylan and Bowie have had recently but his combined Beatles/Solo record achievements are off the scale no one comes close to him in terms of album achievements in a matter of weeks he will become the first artist to spend 2000 weeks on the UK album chart that's over 38 years on the UK album chart . We should really be disappointed with his 50 year album career and that New only got to # 3 in the UK , cut the poor old guy some slack and praise him for his incredible achievements over the years . So he's a little uncool in the eyes of some but the record books show that his 50 year album career is second to none
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Frank:
God I`m such a dork...Can somebody please tell me how to properly quote previous posts?
Just click on the "QUOTE" link in the top right of their post and then scroll down under it, like I'm doing now, and type your post.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Maybe Macca will emulate Dylan's "business model" at some point. Even if he's not chasing "number ones" it still appears he's fixated on selling out the gigantic venues. He wasn't, so much, apparently, when Chaos and Creation came out and he did a handful of songs from that album, in somewhat smaller venues.
That tour was arenas, not stadiums, but it was still a Beatles-heavy set list. Still, it did have a couple cool obscurities, including Too Many People and In Spite of All the Danger.
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runcible tune:
i just popped in to hmv and new is number one in the album chart this week :-):-)
yeah, baby!!
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I, to, wanted him to achieve a UK Number 1 album as this album deserves it and it has been so long. But number 3 is still great!!! Please remember this is his best chart position for all new solo material since Flaming Pie achieved a number 2 in 1997. Also, considering Driving Rain only managed a pathetic number 46 back in 2001 despite coming of the back of the Beatles monstrously successful 1 album a year previously, and this album comes from a lot of negative criticism he received from last years 2012 Olympic ceremony, then I think we can call this one a success. Anyway, end of day it doesn't matter: We all know New is a fantatsic album, period.
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UK Sales Figures in: 1 John Newman 29,756 2 Pearl Jam 17,559 3 Paul McCartney 15,724 4 Cher 14,621 5 Jonathan & Charlotte 14,490 6 Arctic Monkeys 13,535 7 Miley Cyrus 12,092 8 Chase & Status 10,724 9 Passenger 10,016 10 The Saturdays 9,554 Kisses on the Bottom did 24000 in it's first week.
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streetlegal:
I see Dylan keeps cropping up in this discussion and it reminded me of something Bob said ( this is from the liner notes of his Tell Tale Signs Bootleg Series album) it's probably from the late 90's or early 2000's: "I was beginning to encounter a different audience at my shows...a younger audience...My usual audience, which had followed me from sometime in the sixties, were locked in a certain time warp. They liked to hear the old songs and the old songs were fine ...(but) I sort of was betting on my new audience and I kinda forgot about the old one." Bob didn't stop playing the old songs ( although he just about has done now with only 3 songs in the main set -1 from the 60's & 2 from the 70's) but there was/is nothing nostalgic about his shows. The combination of constant year on year touring and the refusal to look back obviously rules out filling the massive stadiums and Arena's Paul regularly fills but this audience is where the number one records come from. I have friends younger than me who have Dylan's most recent albums but not his older ones and I also know people who hate how he sounds now and don't buy his records any more. I think this is what Dylan was talking about in the above quote-he has found a new audience who don't 'judge' him on what he used to be but are interested in what he's doing now. Is it a surprise when Paul struggles ( relatively) to sell new records when his shows are pretty much all about the past-everyone here is interested in his new music & I'm sure the more casual fans would be if only he'd play more of it live-even a perfect PR campaign would be far less effective than playing more recent tunes in front of tens of thousands of people! Mccartney is ( not was) a genius -even a cursory listen to his recent albums proves he remains a brilliant writer but I can't help thinking he has shot himself in the foot by years of touring sets dominated by the old favourites-it provides plenty of ammunition for the fools who dislike him to dismiss him as a has-been. In the current youth obsessed, flavour of the month pop scene, the only realistic way for older musicians to reach a wide audience with their new material is in the live setting. If New had been released during one of the legs of a Paul tour ( assuming he played a reasonable number of the songs) it almost certainly would have topped the US charts.
See 1989 setlist below from Madison Square Garden. McCartney did 6 songs from FITD and even the opener (Figure of Eight) was from the new record at the time. McCartney also did "Ebony and Ivory" and "Coming Up" from solo records (TOW and "McCartney II) that had not been ever played live before this tour. I don't think that was living in the past and this did not really propel FITD into a top seller. Figure of Eight Jet (Wings song) Rough Ride Got to Get You into My Life (The Beatles song) Band on the Run (Wings song) Ebony and Ivory We Got Married Maybe I'm Amazed The Long and Winding Road (The Beatles song) The Fool on the Hill (The Beatles song) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (The Beatles song) Good Day Sunshine (The Beatles song) Can't Buy Me Love (The Beatles song) Put It There Hello, Goodbye (The Beatles song) Things We Said Today (The Beatles song) Eleanor Rigby (The Beatles song) This One My Brave Face Back in the U.S.S.R. (The Beatles song) I Saw Her Standing There (The Beatles song) Twenty Flight Rock (Eddie Cochran cover) Coming Up Let It Be (The Beatles song) Ain't That a Shame (Fats Domino cover) Live and Let Die (Wings song) Hey Jude (The Beatles song) Encore: Yesterday (The Beatles song) Get Back (The Beatles song) Golden Slumbers (The Beatles song) Carry That Weight Play Video (The Beatles song) The End Play Video
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Somebody on Facebook just posted that "New" the album is Number One in Japan, now--true? Hope so, makes it even more exciting that he'll play there in November
, for one thing.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Somebody on Facebook just posted that "New" the album is Number One in Japan, now--true? Hope so, makes it even more exciting that he'll play there in November
, for one thing.
It's heading for Number 2 there according to my info. It also appears to be headed for Number 2 in the US.
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cfergoid:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Somebody on Facebook just posted that "New" the album is Number One in Japan, now--true? Hope so, makes it even more exciting that he'll play there in November
, for one thing.
It's heading for Number 2 there according to my info. It also appears to be headed for Number 2 in the US.
#2 would be great and possibly could create a positive "buzz" about "New"
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cfergoid:
UK Sales Figures in: 1 John Newman 29,756 2 Pearl Jam 17,559 3 Paul McCartney 15,724 4 Cher 14,621 5 Jonathan & Charlotte 14,490 6 Arctic Monkeys 13,535 7 Miley Cyrus 12,092 8 Chase & Status 10,724 9 Passenger 10,016 10 The Saturdays 9,554 Kisses on the Bottom did 24000 in it's first week.
Just out of curiosity, where did you get these sales figures from?
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chrisstevens:
Just out of curiosity, where did you get these sales figures from?
A friend gave me them!
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Those sales figures are correct just been looking at them on UKMIX forum UK CD sales have been shockingly low all year , it's looking like CD's might have had there day . Paul will struggle to get a Silver Disc in the UK for NEW with sales like this .
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On the US iTunes album chart, "New" peaked at #6 a few days ago, but at this point has dropped to #14. Will be interesting to see if anything can push it back into the Top 10. (Pearl Jam is #2 right now.)
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cfergoid:
UK Sales Figures in: 1 John Newman 29,756 2 Pearl Jam 17,559 3 Paul McCartney 15,724 4 Cher 14,621 5 Jonathan & Charlotte 14,490 6 Arctic Monkeys 13,535 7 Miley Cyrus 12,092 8 Chase & Status 10,724 9 Passenger 10,016 10 The Saturdays 9,554 Kisses on the Bottom did 24000 in it's first week.
If those figures are anywhere near correct (and ive no reason to disbelieve them) that's a poor show when compared to Kisses