Let It Be / Get Back (the movie)
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joyce wrote:
Newmacca_322681 wrote:
I don't think oobu ever posted this video she sent me:
Thanks, Nancy. The host is John Harris, who edited the Get Back transcript book.
Here's a 1973 interview with John Lennon. John says that he has split from Allen Klein and he concedes that possibly Paul's suspicions were right.
I just saw that John video recently. I'm glad he realized Paul was right all along. I just wish John hadn't been so stubborn back in 1969 - he didn't listen to others' warnings about Klein at all. And he broke The Beatles' cardinal rule that all 4 of them had to agree on something or it was not done. I can understand George going along with John, but why did Ringo?
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joyce wrote:
Newmacca_322681 wrote:
I don't think oobu ever posted this video she sent me:
Thanks, Nancy. The host is John Harris, who edited the Get Back transcript book.
Here's a 1973 interview with John Lennon. John says that he has split from Allen Klein and he concedes that possibly Paul's suspicions were right.
Both of those clips are WONDERFUL!!.... (yeah, I know... probably no longer called "clips", but nevertheless, both footages are fantastic!) ....
Alas... Klein was proven to be a...... (INSERT WORD that won't make it past the censors)
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It seemed so strange that as much time as John spent on "Don't Let Me Down," including the rooftop performance, the song was left off the album. I know.....Allen Klein had something to do with it back when, but now with the refurbishing of the album by Giles, I don't see why he didn't correct the original mistake and put the song on the album. If you can fix the Spector production, you can fix the lineup of songs. It is just silly to stick that song on another little disc with a few other songs when it so obviously belongs on "Get Back"..."Let It Be." I edited my version to place it right after "Because You're Sweet And Lovely" and just before "Get Back" at the end of the album. That's where it belongs...Love Paul's introduction of the song....and then John's intro to "Get Back." It all just fits.
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
It seemed so strange that as much time as John spent on "Don't Let Me Down," including the rooftop performance, the song was left off the album. I know.....Allen Klein had something to do with it back when, but now with the refurbishing of the album by Giles, I don't see why he didn't correct the original mistake and put the song on the album.
I don't really agree with tampering with history and altering the track listing of an album that was signed off by the Beatles on its original release. Where would it end? Should Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane be added to Sgt Pepper? Should Hey Jude be added to the White album? Rightly or wrongly Don't Let Me Down wasn't on Let It Be so with respect to veryone involved at the time, that should remain the case.
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
It seemed so strange that as much time as John spent on "Don't Let Me Down," including the rooftop performance, the song was left off the album. I know.....Allen Klein had something to do with it back when, but now with the refurbishing of the album by Giles, I don't see why he didn't correct the original mistake and put the song on the album. If you can fix the Spector production, you can fix the lineup of songs. It is just silly to stick that song on another little disc with a few other songs when it so obviously belongs on "Get Back"..."Let It Be." I edited my version to place it right after "Because You're Sweet And Lovely" and just before "Get Back" at the end of the album. That's where it belongs...Love Paul's introduction of the song....and then John's intro to "Get Back." It all just fits.
Was it left off because it was the B-side of the 45 Get Back, so they wanted people to also buy the 45 and the album?
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Kestrel wrote:
Beatles4Ever wrote:
It seemed so strange that as much time as John spent on "Don't Let Me Down," including the rooftop performance, the song was left off the album. I know.....Allen Klein had something to do with it back when, but now with the refurbishing of the album by Giles, I don't see why he didn't correct the original mistake and put the song on the album.
I don't really agree with tampering with history and altering the track listing of an album that was signed off by the Beatles on its original release. Where would it end? Should Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane be added to Sgt Pepper? Should Hey Jude be added to the White album? Rightly or wrongly Don't Let Me Down wasn't on Let It Be so with respect to veryone involved at the time, that should remain the case.
Agreed, Kestrel.... Don't Let Me Down is in my Top 10-15 Beatles tracks... but we cannot reset history... It is what it is... And it (history) is still pretty bloody good!... but, geez, Beatles 4 Ever.... agreed... what a great song... should've been on the album.... but... we cannot rewrite history.
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Newmacca_322681 wrote:
Was it left off because it was the B-side of the 45 Get Back, so they wanted people to also buy the 45 and the album?
That would certainly make sense had the Get Back single and the Let It Be album been released at roughly the same time. As it was though the single had come out in April 1969 and the album in May 1970 so its more likely the Beatles simply just wanted to give value for money. They didn't want to release a new album with two of its twelve tracks having already been available / familiar for over a year. Such a concept is almost laughable these days when artists tend to release half an album as singles in advance of the actual album being released.
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toris wrote:
Agreed, Kestrel.... Don't Let Me Down is in my Top 10-15 Beatles tracks... but we cannot reset history... It is what it is... And it (history) is still pretty bloody good!... but, geez, Beatles 4 Ever.... agreed... what a great song... should've been on the album.... but... we cannot rewrite history.
It is a great song and it did deserve its place three years later on the blue compilation double album, The Beatles 1967 - 1970.
In their book The Beatles An Illustrated Record, authors Roy Carr and Tony Tyler wrote:
The B-side, Don't Let Me Down', is a superb sobber from misery-expert J.W.O. Lennon MBE. And still one of the most highly rated Beatle underbellies.
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Kestrel wrote:
toris wrote:
Agreed, Kestrel.... Don't Let Me Down is in my Top 10-15 Beatles tracks... but we cannot reset history... It is what it is... And it (history) is still pretty bloody good!... but, geez, Beatles 4 Ever.... agreed... what a great song... should've been on the album.... but... we cannot rewrite history.
It is a great song and it did deserve its place three years later on the blue compilation double album, The Beatles 1967 - 1970.
In their book The Beatles An Illustrated Record, authors Roy Carr and Tony Tyler wrote:
The B-side, Don't Let Me Down', is a superb sobber from misery-expert J.W.O. Lennon MBE. And still one of the most highly rated Beatle underbellies.
I loved that blue album!.... one of the best Christmas presents I ever got!.... Thanks to me dear Mum!... A first-generation fan.... Part of my indoctrination into the great band... All those years ago.... very fond memories.
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Kestrel wrote:
Newmacca_322681 wrote:
Was it left off because it was the B-side of the 45 Get Back, so they wanted people to also buy the 45 and the album?
That would certainly make sense had the Get Back single and the Let It Be album been released at roughly the same time. As it was though the single had come out in April 1969 and the album in May 1970 so its more likely the Beatles simply just wanted to give value for money. They didn't want to release a new album with two of its twelve tracks having already been available / familiar for over a year. Such a concept is almost laughable these days when artists tend to release half an album as singles in advance of the actual album being released.
The Beatles were always about giving value for money.... From the early days... We could come up with a pretty good album of songs they never put on their official album releases... which were just as good as the ones they included... It would be a pretty good album...
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toris wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Newmacca_322681 wrote:
Was it left off because it was the B-side of the 45 Get Back, so they wanted people to also buy the 45 and the album?
That would certainly make sense had the Get Back single and the Let It Be album been released at roughly the same time. As it was though the single had come out in April 1969 and the album in May 1970 so its more likely the Beatles simply just wanted to give value for money. They didn't want to release a new album with two of its twelve tracks having already been available / familiar for over a year. Such a concept is almost laughable these days when artists tend to release half an album as singles in advance of the actual album being released.
The Beatles were always about giving value for money.... From the early days... We could come up with a pretty good album of songs they never put on their official album releases... which were just as good as the ones they included... It would be a pretty good album...
We could call it, hm, "Past Masters" or something like that
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Hamish Stuart wrote:
toris wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Newmacca_322681 wrote:
Was it left off because it was the B-side of the 45 Get Back, so they wanted people to also buy the 45 and the album?
That would certainly make sense had the Get Back single and the Let It Be album been released at roughly the same time. As it was though the single had come out in April 1969 and the album in May 1970 so its more likely the Beatles simply just wanted to give value for money. They didn't want to release a new album with two of its twelve tracks having already been available / familiar for over a year. Such a concept is almost laughable these days when artists tend to release half an album as singles in advance of the actual album being released.
The Beatles were always about giving value for money.... From the early days... We could come up with a pretty good album of songs they never put on their official album releases... which were just as good as the ones they included... It would be a pretty good album...
We could call it, hm, "Past Masters" or something like that
Past Masters is already taken.
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Ha, True on Past Masters! Even if a handful of songs are not as worthy. And putting on different versions of other songs is just "cheating". ... but, yeah, a pretty decent collection!
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Kestrel wrote:
Beatles4Ever wrote:
It seemed so strange that as much time as John spent on "Don't Let Me Down," including the rooftop performance, the song was left off the album. I know.....Allen Klein had something to do with it back when, but now with the refurbishing of the album by Giles, I don't see why he didn't correct the original mistake and put the song on the album.
I don't really agree with tampering with history and altering the track listing of an album that was signed off by the Beatles on its original release. Where would it end? Should Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane be added to Sgt Pepper? Should Hey Jude be added to the White album? Rightly or wrongly Don't Let Me Down wasn't on Let It Be so with respect to everyone involved at the time, that should remain the case.
The Beatles had gone their separate ways by the time the album was released, so they didn't sign off on anything regarding this album. If they had gone through that process, the only reason they didn't sign off on Glyn Johns' two versions of the album was because they were a bit too rough sounding, not because he included "Don't Let Me Down" on those versions of the album he prepared for the band. Keeping it off had nothing to do with the band period. It had nothing to do with obtaining value for the money. It had everything to do with Allen Klein when he took over the band....after they had gone their separate ways. He kept it off to use another way to his liking. He's the one who rewrote history. It could have been restored with the Giles Martin remix. Placing the song on the new remix of the album, to go along with the documentary and concert, would have righted a wrong. And yes, while I'm at it, I believe Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields should have been placed on Sgt. Pepper back in 2017 when it was remixed and given the deluxe treatment. George Martin deeply regretted leaving those two songs off the album. Had he still been alive in 2017, I believe he would have corrected what he perceived to be a terrible wrong as well. The album would have been all the stronger....and better respected.... for doing that. Many people believe improving the sound quality of the entire catalog back in 2009 rewrote history. They believe any remixing thereafter of any album rewrites history. I view it all as CORRECTING history, making it right, making proper use of technology. And if that means adding Hey Jude to The White Album, so be it. But....with regards to Don't Let Me Down still not being placed on Get back/Let It Be is totally preposterous!! The song is all over the documentary...as John and the band are creating it. The band plays it twice during the rooftop concert. And yet it's still left off the album of that creative process and concert??? Were I a casual fan, I'd wonder where the hell it was and why it was left off the album. I'd wonder what the hell was wrong with Apple....and with Giles Martin. If Giles Martin can help right a terrible wrong....as best he could... by remixing and integrating Phil Spector's dreadful overproduction of the album 50 years ago, he can fix/correct the song lineup a tiny bit too. As a huge fanof the band, I wonder about all that! Just my opinion, folks! We'll just have to disagree on this.
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The Beatles ‘Get Back’ Rooftop Concert Set For One-Night IMAX Screening
The complete docuseries The Beatles: Get Back will also be available on Blu-ray and DVD in the U.S. on February 8.
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jimmix wrote:
The Beatles ‘Get Back’ Rooftop Concert Set For One-Night IMAX Screening
The complete docuseries The Beatles: Get Back will also be available on Blu-ray and DVD in the U.S. on February 8.
I know that "Two of Us," "Let It Be,' and "The Long and Winding Road," were not part of the rooftop songs, but they were completed during those sessions and they had complete studio performances of the songs filmed, why are they not being included in the IMAX screening to show casual fans the group accomplished much more than maybe the documentary might suggest. Yes, bits of the performances of those songs were shown over the closing credits of the documentary but why not include entire performances with in the IMAX screening? Show everthing they accomplished, not just the few numbers they performed on the rooftop.
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The Beatles: Get Back Comes To Blu-ray On February 8th
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The entire 40 minute rooftop performance, including dialogue, will be released by streaming at midnight ET on Friday, January 28 from Apple Corps Ltd./Capitol/UMe.
https://people.com/music/beatles-legendary-rooftop-concert-released-as-live-album-on-streaming/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/beatles-rooftop-concert-let-it-be-1291122/
Link to streaming services that will carry the concert
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I pre-ordered the blu-ray special edition from Amazon. Still no extra footage, but it comes with 4 picture cards.
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NJR wrote:
I pre-ordered the blu-ray special edition from Amazon. Still no extra footage, but it comes with 4 picture cards.
It's an underwhelming release.... I was hoping for the extra mooted six hours of footage.... I'll hang on for awhile... It's only 90 bucks a year for the Disney subscription, so I can watch it any time I like.... here's hoping there is a bigger release down the line....