McCartney 3?
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B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel,
I always respect your opinions but as ususal we will have to agree to disagree about Egypt Station.
The only problem with MAF in my opinion was the production and loudness of sound.
Even Paul's lower rated albums like Wildlife, Press to Play, Pipes of Peace, Off the Ground or Driving Rain all have hidden gems. That is another reason that I can't wait to hear McCartney 3.
I always respect your opinion as well and if you like Egypt Station then that's fine with me. I even played it this morning but it just went in one ear and out the other. In fact it had stopped playing and it was a while before I even realised. I just can't connect with it I'm afraid.
Yes, I totally agree with you about the production and loudness of MAF. On a subconscious level it makes for a very tiring listening experience. I'm glad you mentioned You Tell Me, its the stand out track on the album for me.
Paul has never recorded an album where there isn't at least three 'hidden gems' to be found but too many albums are too inconsistant, which is why his compilation albums tend to be well received.
I have a sneaking feeling that McCartney lll will be my favourite of Paul's since Chaos And Creation in the Backyard. Not too long now before I find out either.
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His singing on McCartney lll is "superbly weathered" rather than "very raw" according to Rolling Stone which describes the new album as a cross between "Ram" and McCartney 1, if I remember correctly. Some of the "Ram" songs sound weird in a country rustic way, which is interesting and unusual. Sort of like Hot Tuna and Dan and the Hot Licks in a way from way back then. Two very long songs on it? Piques my interest and yet gives me pause. I don't like "House of Wax" though its lyrics are very poetic, but I love "Rinse the Raindrops" another long one. I don't like the strange post modern or new wave or current sound effects on "Appreciate" and its pacing and overall sound. Though it is highly dramatic like his running through the night song on "New" which sounds so different from his other work. On both those numbers he sounds a bit fearful or apprehensive. He doesn't often sound like that. Way RS describes his new one, including ecstatic paens to nature and reflections from things he's learned in his life, vaguely reminds me of Whitman's "Song to Myself" book of poems. It will have some depth and gravitas along with some zany. "Ram" could be quite zany.
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
His singing on McCartney lll is "superbly weathered" rather than "very raw" according to Rolling Stone which describes the new album as a cross between "Ram" and McCartney 1, if I remember correctly. Some of the "Ram" songs sound weird in a country rustic way, which is interesting and unusual. Sort of like Hot Tuna and Dan and the Hot Licks in a way from way back then. Two very long songs on it? Piques my interest and yet gives me pause. I don't like "House of Wax" though its lyrics are very poetic, but I love "Rinse the Raindrops" another long one. I don't like the strange post modern or new wave or current sound effects on "Appreciate" and its pacing and overall sound. Though it is highly dramatic like his running through the night song on "New" which sounds so different from his other work. On both those numbers he sounds a bit fearful or apprehensive. He doesn't often sound like that. Way RS describes his new one, including ecstatic paens to nature and reflections from things he's learned in his life, vaguely reminds me of Whitman's "Song to Myself" book of poems. It will have some depth and gravitas along with some zany. "Ram" could be quite zany.
BBC interviewer heard the album and was the person who said his vocals were "very raw", we will all know in a month.
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And now the" Uncut" reviewer (John Robinson) gives McCartney 3 a "9 out of 10". This is the 3rd review I have seen and I like the fact that different songs are singled out for being the best track on the album. In this case, this reviewer thinks that "Deep Deep Feeling" is the best track on McCartney 3 whereas a previous critic (Gwen Ihnat) thought that "Slidin" and/or Kiss of Venus were the best tracks. While John Robinson uses descriptions for McCartney 3 like strange, loose and experimental to point out the best things in McCartney 3, Gwen Ihnat in the other review spent more time talking about the album's good lyrics and Paul's metaphor of "birds and flight" that are prevalent in many of the songs. You don't know what you're going to get from the early reviews but it does sound very interesting. I does scare me that John Robinson considers McCartney 2 a "great" album, As "loose and experimental" as it is, I personally don't consider McCartney 2 to be a great album. I liked it better when I listened to the "archive/remastered treatment back in 2012 I believe, but I would never consider it in the same league as Chaos and Creation. Hopefully McCartney 3 is a combination of Chaos, McCartney 1 and Electric Arguments. We will see shortly.
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Kestrel wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel,
I always respect your opinions but as ususal we will have to agree to disagree about Egypt Station.
The only problem with MAF in my opinion was the production and loudness of sound.
Even Paul's lower rated albums like Wildlife, Press to Play, Pipes of Peace, Off the Ground or Driving Rain all have hidden gems. That is another reason that I can't wait to hear McCartney 3.
I always respect your opinion as well and if you like Egypt Station then that's fine with me. I even played it this morning but it just went in one ear and out the other. In fact it had stopped playing and it was a while before I even realised. I just can't connect with it I'm afraid.
Yes, I totally agree with you about the production and loudness of MAF. On a subconscious level it makes for a very tiring listening experience. I'm glad you mentioned You Tell Me, its the stand out track on the album for me.
Paul has never recorded an album where there isn't at least three 'hidden gems' to be found but too many albums are too inconsistant, which is why his compilation albums tend to be well received.
I have a sneaking feeling that McCartney lll will be my favourite of Paul's since Chaos And Creation in the Backyard. Not too long now before I find out either.
No problem Kestrel. I do think that ES was way too long as an album and that makes it more difficult for anyone to hear the whole thing in one setting. When I hear ES songs individually on Spotify's "This is Paul McCartney's" playlist, I love many of the songs as a single individual play. The album should have probably been at least 3 tracks shorter in my opinion. Chaos and Creation, for example, had a perfect length imo.
Thanks for finding Gwen Ihnat's review of McCartney 3. Loved her review and it makes me more anxious to get my hands on the new album.
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Paul's just done a Tweet with 13 Tomorrow's the 13th so could this indicate that the new single's out tomorrow?
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Gordy JS wrote:
Paul's just done a Tweet with 13 Tomorrow's the 13th so could this indicate that the new single's out tomorrow?
Fingers crossed!
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B J Conlee wrote:
And now the" Uncut" reviewer (John Robinson) gives McCartney 3 a "9 out of 10". This is the 3rd review I have seen and I like the fact that different songs are singled out for being the best track on the album. In this case, this reviewer thinks that "Deep Deep Feeling" is the best track on McCartney 3 whereas a previous critic (Gwen Ihnat) thought that "Slidin" and/or Kiss of Venus were the best tracks. While John Robinson uses descriptions for McCartney 3 like strange, loose and experimental to point out the best things in McCartney 3, Gwen Ihnat in the other review spent more time talking about the album's good lyrics and Paul's metaphor of "birds and flight" that are prevalent in many of the songs. You don't know what you're going to get from the early reviews but it does sound very interesting. I does scare me that John Robinson considers McCartney 2 a "great" album, As "loose and experimental" as it is, I personally don't consider McCartney 2 to be a great album. I liked it better when I listened to the "archive/remastered treatment back in 2012 I believe, but I would never consider it in the same league as Chaos and Creation. Hopefully McCartney 3 is a combination of Chaos, McCartney 1 and Electric Arguments. We will see shortly.
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
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Gordy JS wrote:
Paul's just done a Tweet with 13 Tomorrow's the 13th so could this indicate that the new single's out tomorrow?
Makes sense to me, at least we will know tomorrow -lol
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
I posted the article but someone apparently deleted it.
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oobu24 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
I posted the article but someone apparently deleted it.
Thanks for the review, appreciate it !!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
I posted the article but someone apparently deleted it.
Thanks for the review, appreciate it !!
You are welcome.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
And now the" Uncut" reviewer (John Robinson) gives McCartney 3 a "9 out of 10". This is the 3rd review I have seen and I like the fact that different songs are singled out for being the best track on the album. In this case, this reviewer thinks that "Deep Deep Feeling" is the best track on McCartney 3 whereas a previous critic (Gwen Ihnat) thought that "Slidin" and/or Kiss of Venus were the best tracks. While John Robinson uses descriptions for McCartney 3 like strange, loose and experimental to point out the best things in McCartney 3, Gwen Ihnat in the other review spent more time talking about the album's good lyrics and Paul's metaphor of "birds and flight" that are prevalent in many of the songs. You don't know what you're going to get from the early reviews but it does sound very interesting. I does scare me that John Robinson considers McCartney 2 a "great" album, As "loose and experimental" as it is, I personally don't consider McCartney 2 to be a great album. I liked it better when I listened to the "archive/remastered treatment back in 2012 I believe, but I would never consider it in the same league as Chaos and Creation. Hopefully McCartney 3 is a combination of Chaos, McCartney 1 and Electric Arguments. We will see shortly.
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/paul-mccartney-still-consults-john-lennon-128539/
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Gordy JS wrote:
Paul's just done a Tweet with 13 Tomorrow's the 13th so could this indicate that the new single's out tomorrow?
or maybe it was just that what it is also on Youtube =/ [spotify]
and [youtube] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nrY-Fv0n2ceUIReK_-A_w35tN7z7T7dvk -
Rolling Stone has a list of "the top 80 albums of the 1980's" and "McCartney ll" is #27 on the list, while "Double Fantasy" is #20.
I'm glad I got to read the "Uncut" review before it left here, but I only read it once; wish I could, again. I liked it that Paul had a big painting or poster of Frank Sinatra in the room.
I wonder what the number 13 means in his tweet.
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Nancy R wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
And now the" Uncut" reviewer (John Robinson) gives McCartney 3 a "9 out of 10". This is the 3rd review I have seen and I like the fact that different songs are singled out for being the best track on the album. In this case, this reviewer thinks that "Deep Deep Feeling" is the best track on McCartney 3 whereas a previous critic (Gwen Ihnat) thought that "Slidin" and/or Kiss of Venus were the best tracks. While John Robinson uses descriptions for McCartney 3 like strange, loose and experimental to point out the best things in McCartney 3, Gwen Ihnat in the other review spent more time talking about the album's good lyrics and Paul's metaphor of "birds and flight" that are prevalent in many of the songs. You don't know what you're going to get from the early reviews but it does sound very interesting. I does scare me that John Robinson considers McCartney 2 a "great" album, As "loose and experimental" as it is, I personally don't consider McCartney 2 to be a great album. I liked it better when I listened to the "archive/remastered treatment back in 2012 I believe, but I would never consider it in the same league as Chaos and Creation. Hopefully McCartney 3 is a combination of Chaos, McCartney 1 and Electric Arguments. We will see shortly.
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/paul-mccartney-still-consults-john-lennon-128539/
The article that I had posted reviewed the album Mac 3.
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oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
And now the" Uncut" reviewer (John Robinson) gives McCartney 3 a "9 out of 10". This is the 3rd review I have seen and I like the fact that different songs are singled out for being the best track on the album. In this case, this reviewer thinks that "Deep Deep Feeling" is the best track on McCartney 3 whereas a previous critic (Gwen Ihnat) thought that "Slidin" and/or Kiss of Venus were the best tracks. While John Robinson uses descriptions for McCartney 3 like strange, loose and experimental to point out the best things in McCartney 3, Gwen Ihnat in the other review spent more time talking about the album's good lyrics and Paul's metaphor of "birds and flight" that are prevalent in many of the songs. You don't know what you're going to get from the early reviews but it does sound very interesting. I does scare me that John Robinson considers McCartney 2 a "great" album, As "loose and experimental" as it is, I personally don't consider McCartney 2 to be a great album. I liked it better when I listened to the "archive/remastered treatment back in 2012 I believe, but I would never consider it in the same league as Chaos and Creation. Hopefully McCartney 3 is a combination of Chaos, McCartney 1 and Electric Arguments. We will see shortly.
BJ, can you or somebody else post the "Uncut" review. I tried to go to "Uncut" website and could not find the review.
https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/paul-mccartney-still-consults-john-lennon-128539/
The article that I had posted reviewed the album Mac 3.
Well, if Paul still consults John on lyric issues, he sometimes isn't getting good advice in return. With respect to the use of the mellatron, Paul said it was used on "Buffalo Bill." Wasn't the song about"Bungalo Bill....what did you kill...?"
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oobu24 wrote:
Musicians on Musicians
Very cool article. I know Taylor Swift can be "mocked" by some people due to her fans early in her career but she really is quite a talented lady. I found it neat that these two can have a very nice conversation about life/music especially since they are generations apart.
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Yankeefan2 wrote: I found it neat that these two can have a very nice conversation about life/music especially since they are generations apart.
As demonstrated by the fact that she wasn't born until six months after Flowers In The Dirt was released !!