McCartney 3?
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
I feel sorry for the rest of you "Paul maniacs" on this Site. As you've proably seen, I love McCartney 3. There was only 1 track I didn't like (Deep Deep Feeling) and now I'm starting to get into that song. That and "Deep Down" are both too long but I think they are vey good tracks anyway. The reason I like McCartney 3 so much is because there isn't one track that is a clunker or stinker. I loved Tug of War but I never liked "What That You're Doing" (the Paul/Stevie Wonder collaboration song )" nor did I like "Fuh You" on Egypt Station. I also didn't like "Reallly Love You" (the jam song on Flaming Pie). All of those songs kind of destroyed those respective albums for me. On McCartney 3, neither Deep Deep Feeling or "Deep Down are clunkers. The are too long but they are good songs and give a R&B groove to the album. So happy for Paul.
I don't know why you feel sorry for us - I feel sorry for you that ONE song "destroyed"Tug Of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station for you! smh
I only feel sorry for you guys that you'll have to put up with me " bragging forever" about McCartney 3. I still love Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station. It was that those songs were clunkers on their respective albums. I also didn't like "Gratitude" on Memory Almost Full but they were all great albums and I still enjoyed them very much. At the endi of the day, McCartney 3 will help Paul's legacy so much because it is so great, I'm still celebrating for this Christmas present from the master himself.
This is why I loved CHAOS so much, it was IMO a perfect album. I think it is plain to see you don't like "jam" songs and I understand that because they usually don't fit well on an album. Those type of songs are fun to be played live when you can "rock out" and improvise. "What's That Your Doing" should have been left off the album and been the B side for "Ebony And Ivory" IMO. I think the songs you mentioned being on a album is the perfect example of how a strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich can make sure there are no clunkers on a album. I will bet you my house "Fuh You" would not have sounded the same or been on "Egypt Station" if he produced the album.
As for "McCartney III", IMO there are no clunkers and all songs are good to very good. We can quibble about two songs being cut down a bit but they still are quality songs. Usually, I am not a big fan of songs much past 5 minutes but the two on this album I am enjoying even after a few listens.
Yes, I still have Chaos and Band on the Run (with Helen Wheels on the album) 1 and 2 on my Best Paul Post Beatles' albums. In both cases, they had no clunkers.
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B J Conlee wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
I feel sorry for the rest of you "Paul maniacs" on this Site. As you've proably seen, I love McCartney 3. There was only 1 track I didn't like (Deep Deep Feeling) and now I'm starting to get into that song. That and "Deep Down" are both too long but I think they are vey good tracks anyway. The reason I like McCartney 3 so much is because there isn't one track that is a clunker or stinker. I loved Tug of War but I never liked "What That You're Doing" (the Paul/Stevie Wonder collaboration song )" nor did I like "Fuh You" on Egypt Station. I also didn't like "Reallly Love You" (the jam song on Flaming Pie). All of those songs kind of destroyed those respective albums for me. On McCartney 3, neither Deep Deep Feeling or "Deep Down are clunkers. The are too long but they are good songs and give a R&B groove to the album. So happy for Paul.
I don't know why you feel sorry for us - I feel sorry for you that ONE song "destroyed"Tug Of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station for you! smh
I only feel sorry for you guys that you'll have to put up with me " bragging forever" about McCartney 3. I still love Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station. It was that those songs were clunkers on their respective albums. I also didn't like "Gratitude" on Memory Almost Full but they were all great albums and I still enjoyed them very much. At the endi of the day, McCartney 3 will help Paul's legacy so much because it is so great, I'm still celebrating for this Christmas present from the master himself.
I was mostly kidding Nancy. Don't take me so seriously and literallly.
You might want to throw in a couple of these once and a while:
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Nancy R wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
I feel sorry for the rest of you "Paul maniacs" on this Site. As you've proably seen, I love McCartney 3. There was only 1 track I didn't like (Deep Deep Feeling) and now I'm starting to get into that song. That and "Deep Down" are both too long but I think they are vey good tracks anyway. The reason I like McCartney 3 so much is because there isn't one track that is a clunker or stinker. I loved Tug of War but I never liked "What That You're Doing" (the Paul/Stevie Wonder collaboration song )" nor did I like "Fuh You" on Egypt Station. I also didn't like "Reallly Love You" (the jam song on Flaming Pie). All of those songs kind of destroyed those respective albums for me. On McCartney 3, neither Deep Deep Feeling or "Deep Down are clunkers. The are too long but they are good songs and give a R&B groove to the album. So happy for Paul.
I don't know why you feel sorry for us - I feel sorry for you that ONE song "destroyed"Tug Of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station for you! smh
I only feel sorry for you guys that you'll have to put up with me " bragging forever" about McCartney 3. I still love Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Egypt Station. It was that those songs were clunkers on their respective albums. I also didn't like "Gratitude" on Memory Almost Full but they were all great albums and I still enjoyed them very much. At the endi of the day, McCartney 3 will help Paul's legacy so much because it is so great, I'm still celebrating for this Christmas present from the master himself.
I was mostly kidding Nancy. Don't take me so seriously and literallly.
You might want to throw in a couple of these once and a while:
No problem Nancy. I still love Tug of War and Flming PIe. Hope you're enjoying McCartney 3 as much as I am.
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^ I've only listened to it once. I'm afraid I'll never like any of his most recent albums as much as you guys do. Nor do I care to discuss them as much as you do. The last album of his I really loved was NEW. And before that, Flaming Pie.
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Just wanted to add a couple of comments about McCartney 3 and the couple of tracks I didn't love upon the first couple of listens:
Long Tailed Winter Bird (opening track) - One I listened to this opener with head phones, my mind changed and I had a fuller appreciation for Paul's musical instincts with the song. As everyone knows, it's mostly an instrumental but I love the opening acoustic guitar riff and then I started to love all the additional instruments coming in...bass, drums etc. that follows. A tad too long but still a great opening track.
Deep Deep Feeling - This was my least favorite track early on. But when I started to listen to it further, it started to grow with me. I always liked Paul's lead vocal and the lyrics in general (albeit very repetitive) but I didn't initially like his background vocals. Sounded a little cheesy to me on the first couple of listens. But with like other Paul latter period Solo songs and especially with his older voice vocals, I started to get used to it. I liked very much the vocal in the "Now every time it rains" part where he sounded in a good way like Michael Jackson. And I liked even more his high register background vocals further on that where he sounded like the great soul group Earth Wind and Fire (Phillip Bailey I think is the lead singer). Once I started liking these parts of "Deep Deep Feeling" it gave the track more of a soul vibe. As I started listening to the song more, I also really liked and appreciated the "jazzy piano parts"coupled with the electric guitar parts.
While "Deep Deep Feeling" isn't one of the best tracks on McCartney 3 in my opinion, I initially only gave it a 7 out of 10. But as I've gotten more used to Paul's vocals (particularly the background parts) I now think it deserves an 8. Still the track goes too long (over 8 minutes) which is the main reason I can't see myself giving it more than a 8. That being said, it is still a good track. A good comparison with other great Paul Solo albums, might sum it up for me. On Tug of War for example, I never liked the 4th track on Tug of War called "What's That You're Doing", the 6 plus minute jam song with Paul and Stevie taking turns with the vocals. I could never get into that song and most of the time as much as I tried, I had to hit the skip button. I don't feel this way about "Deep Deep Feeling". I appreciate the music much better. Another previous great Paul Solo album, Flaming Pie where I could never get into the track called "Really Love You" where Paul is jamming with Ringo and Jeff Lynne. Again, I have never liked the song and it went on entirely too long. But I feel differently about "Deep Deep Feeling". I appreciate the different musical parts of the track so I don't think it of it as a "clunker" on McCartney 3.
In Summary, this is why I like McCartney 3 so much. Even though there are a couple of tracks that are too long and too repetiive (the opener and Deep Deep Feeling) I still like those 2 tracks and appreciate Paul's musicality on those 2 songs. And I absolutely love all the other tracks. I realize this is subjective and only my opiinion but I think McCartney 3 is right up there with Chaos and Creation and Band on the Run for consisitency.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Just wanted to add a couple of comments about McCartney 3 and the couple of tracks I didn't love upon the first couple of listens:
Long Tailed Winter Bird (opening track) - One I listened to this opener with head phones, my mind changed and I had a fuller appreciation for Paul's musical instincts with the song. As everyone knows, it's mostly an instrumental but I love the opening acoustic guitar riff and then I started to love all the additional instruments coming in...bass, drums etc. that follows. A tad too long but still a great opening track.
Deep Deep Feeling - This was my least favorite track early on. But when I started to listen to it further, it started to grow with me. I always liked Paul's lead vocal and the lyrics in general (albeit very repetitive) but I didn't initially like his background vocals. Sounded a little cheesy to me on the first couple of listens. But with like other Paul latter period Solo songs and especially with his older voice vocals, I started to get used to it. I liked very much the vocal in the "Now every time it rains" part where he sounded in a good way like Michael Jackson. And I liked even more his high register background vocals further on that where he sounded like the great soul group Earth Wind and Fire (Phillip Bailey I think is the lead singer). Once I started liking these parts of "Deep Deep Feeling" it gave the track more of a soul vibe. As I started listening to the song more, I also really liked and appreciated the "jazzy piano parts"coupled with the electric guitar parts.
While "Deep Deep Feeling" isn't one of the best tracks on McCartney 3 in my opinion, I initially only gave it a 7 out of 10. But as I've gotten more used to Paul's vocals (particularly the background parts) I now think it deserves an 8. Still the track goes too long (over 8 minutes) which is the main reason I can't see myself giving it more than a 8. That being said, it is still a good track. A good comparison with other great Paul Solo albums, might sum it up for me. On Tug of War for example, I never liked the 4th track on Tug of War called "What's That You're Doing", the 6 plus minute jam song with Paul and Stevie taking turns with the vocals. I could never get into that song and most of the time as much as I tried, I had to hit the skip button. I don't feel this way about "Deep Deep Feeling". I appreciate the music much better. Another previous great Paul Solo album, Flaming Pie where I could never get into the track called "Really Love You" where Paul is jamming with Ringo and Jeff Lynne. Again, I have never liked the song and it went on entirely too long. But I feel differently about "Deep Deep Feeling". I appreciate the different musical parts of the track so I don't think it of it as a "clunker" on McCartney 3.
In Summary, this is why I like McCartney 3 so much. Even though there are a couple of tracks that are too long and too repetiive (the opener and Deep Deep Feeling) I still like those 2 tracks and appreciate Paul's musicality on those 2 songs. And I absolutely love all the other tracks. I realize this is subjective and only my opiinion but I think McCartney 3 is right up there with Chaos and Creation and Band on the Run for consisitency.
I agree, this is very consistent album like the two you mentioned. The length issue on a couple of songs is when it would have been good for McCartney to have another voice saying maybe he needed to do a little editing. I can handle a song being a bit too long if it is good musically and rather have that then a three minute song that is "bloody" awful -lol.
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I’ve been listening to the album nearly every day since the release, really digesting and immersing myself in these tunes, and I have to say that I really adore this record. The fact that we have this album at all is just such a gift. Here are some quick, random thoughts on my standout tracks:
“Find My Way” - classic Macca with psychedelic flourishes, I dig it
“Pretty Boys” - in the tradition of Paul’s acoustic arpeggio-driven tunes, a la “The Songs We Were Singing”, “Somedays”, “Early Days”, “Happy With You”, etc. Cool lyrics, and I love when the groove kicks in. Since Paul and the rest of The Beatles are arguably some of the most photographed people in history, it's really interesting to hear him reflecting on the treatment/experience of photographic subjects/models.
“Deep Deep Down” - the most experimental and vibey track in this collection, has the “McCartney II” spirit, and makes me think of “Kicked Around No More” and “Growing Up Falling Down” as far as the atmosphere goes. This definitely feels like new territory being explored by Paul though, which is crazy, considering he’s been a recording artist for nearly 60 years. Also, the polyrhythm around 5:57 when the shaker comes in
“Slidin’” - That riff! So heavy, and I love that he’s screaming his head off in the background like he’s Dave Grohl - all the yes!
“The Kiss of Venus” - probably my favorite “melody” on the album, and WHAT a melody! I hear shades of his work on The White Album here, and the lyrics are beautiful as well. A late career classic in my estimation.
“Seize The Day” - great melody and message, musically and sonically like a cross between his classic baroque-pop tunes combined with Brian May-esque guitar tones - great stuff.
“When Winter Comes” - a close second for my favorite melody here - just beautifully played and performed. I’ve been listening to this one a lot today, and it's hitting me in all the feels. So cool to hear him reflecting on the late 1969/early 1970 Scotland farm life with Linda and the kids, but it also occurred to me how relatable it is to these times; everyone in isolation, being forced to tend to their own figurative (or literal) gardens. I absolutely love it.
I like the rest of the songs as well (just not as much), with the exception of “Deep Down”, which I dig musically, but as a song it feels underdeveloped and drags on for too long (for me). Part of me wishes this track was left as an instrumental, because I don't feel the vocals really add anything. Perhaps it will grow on me, time will tell.
I'm just so grateful that we got this record, especially during these tough times.
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Anthony B. wrote:
I’ve been listening to the album nearly every day since the release, really digesting and immersing myself in these tunes, and I have to say that I really adore this record. The fact that we have this album at all is just such a gift. Here are some quick, random thoughts on my standout tracks:
“Find My Way” - classic Macca with psychedelic flourishes, I dig it
“Pretty Boys” - in the tradition of Paul’s acoustic arpeggio-driven tunes, a la “The Songs We Were Singing”, “Somedays”, “Early Days”, “Happy With You”, etc. Cool lyrics, and I love when the groove kicks in. Since Paul and the rest of The Beatles are arguably some of the most photographed people in history, it's really interesting to hear him reflecting on the treatment/experience of photographic subjects/models.
“Deep Deep Down” - the most experimental and vibey track in this collection, has the “McCartney II” spirit, and makes me think of “Kicked Around No More” and “Growing Up Falling Down” as far as the atmosphere goes. This definitely feels like new territory being explored by Paul though, which is crazy, considering he’s been a recording artist for nearly 60 years. Also, the polyrhythm around 5:57 when the shaker comes in
“Slidin’” - That riff! So heavy, and I love that he’s screaming his head off in the background like he’s Dave Grohl - all the yes!
“The Kiss of Venus” - probably my favorite “melody” on the album, and WHAT a melody! I hear shades of his work on The White Album here, and the lyrics are beautiful as well. A late career classic in my estimation.
“Seize The Day” - great melody and message, musically and sonically like a cross between his classic baroque-pop tunes combined with Brian May-esque guitar tones - great stuff.
“When Winter Comes” - a close second for my favorite melody here - just beautifully played and performed. I’ve been listening to this one a lot today, and it's hitting me in all the feels. So cool to hear him reflecting on the late 1969/early 1970 Scotland farm life with Linda and the kids, but it also occurred to me how relatable it is to these times; everyone in isolation, being forced to tend to their own figurative (or literal) gardens. I absolutely love it.
I like the rest of the songs as well (just not as much), with the exception of “Deep Down”, which I dig musically, but as a song it feels underdeveloped and drags on for too long (for me). Part of me wishes this track was left as an instrumental, because I don't feel the vocals really add anything. Perhaps it will grow on me, time will tell.
I'm just so grateful that we got this record, especially during these tough times.
Hey Anthony,
You must have ESP. I was just going to ask you for your feelings aboiut McCartney 3. I loved your track by track analysis especially considering you're a musician something that I am not.
Relative to your analysis, I conversely liked "Deep Down" initially better than Deep Deep Feeling. I liked Paul's vocals on "Deep Down" better than his background vocals on "Deep Deep Feeling". I do agree that the lyrics on "Down Down" are underdeveloped and it does drag a little too long. But I love the R&B groove on "Deep Down" and I think Paul sings it well. As I said, as I've listened to "Deep Deep Feeling" more I'm appreciating his vocals on the track more. Is it me or is his "high register" singing on "Deep Deep Feeling" (on the background singing parts) sound a little like Earth Wind and Fire.
Another track that you didn't specifically mention that is growing with me is "Women and Wives". I don't like it nearly as much as"I Don't Know" from Egypt Station but it is still good. Still think it should have been called "Chasing Tomorrow". I love the lyrics on "Women and Wives" in general. And "Lavatory Lil" is a real hoot and it provided a necessary "comic relief" on the album in my opinioin. Another one that sounds like it could have been on Abbey Road or the White Album.
All in all, I love McCartney 3 and I'm so glad that Paul did an album so quickly because of the Pandemic. A definite silver lining in my opinion. The fact that you are a "musician" makes me feel better that you love the album so much too. Thanks
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Hey Anthony...
Forgot to mention how much I still love your video of "Put It There" (For others, it is on the bottom of your previous post).
Can't wait till you guys tackle some of the new McCartney 3 tunes.
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I loving McCartney 3. The only song I haven't grown to like yet is Deep Deep Feeling. Lavatory Lil and Deep Down I think are good, and all the other songs are great, especially The Kiss of Venus and When Winter Comes.
M3 feels like a smaller, more personal album compared with Egypt Station and Paul's other recent albums, which I guess makes sense considering how it was made. I still like Egypt Station better, but I love M3 too. I think we should all be grateful that Paul is still making albums of this quality.
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I am not enjoying this album as much as others.
I like it. I love that he got another Number One! That means so much. I'm so proud of him for that.
Because I love Paul.
But it's not anywhere near his best. I'm loving still listening to it. Songs growing on me. But nowhere near the summit. No matter how many more times I listen to it.
I do unfairly make all comparisons to the Beatles and then Wings... But that's the way it is.
Probably two to three songs on the album worthy of being put in that comparative. In the lower echelon.
Which isn't enough.
But... I love Paul.
I will continue to listen. But it's currently on the lower scale of his output (which is magnificent)
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I got a nice surprise yesteray...a physical copy of the McCartney 3 CD from Prime. My wife had gotten me a surpise gift for Christmas of a DVD/CD player. She liked the idea that I had the CD for this player. It is in the shape of a Laptop that I can play when I'm the passenger during our car trips up North.
As usual, I was impressed with the packaging for the CD. Love the booklet that accompanies the CD. Love that it includes all the lyrics as well as great pictures of Paul in his studio. All in all, I had a great Christmas.
I noticed that on the very back of the booklet it said that this album was dedicated to Eddie Klein who died in 2020. I've seen his name on many of Paul's previious CD's. Can someone tell me how Eddie was related to Linda. Thanks
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B J Conlee wrote:
I got a nice surprise yesteray...a physical copy of the McCartney 3 CD from Prime. My wife had gotten me a surpise gift for Christmas of a DVD/CD player. She liked the idea that I had the CD for this player. It is in the shape of a Laptop that I can play when I'm the passenger during our car trips up North.
As usual, I was impressed with the packaging for the CD. Love the booklet that accompanies the CD. Love that it includes all the lyrics as well as great pictures of Paul in his studio. All in all, I had a great Christmas.
I noticed that on the very back of the booklet it said that this album was dedicated to Eddie Klein who died in 2020. I've seen his name on many of Paul's previious CD's. Can someone tell me how Eddie was related to Linda. Thanks
Google search:
https://beatlesmagazineuk.com/paul-mccartney-on-eddie-klein/
https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/artist/eddie-klein/
He is not related to Linda.
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toris wrote:
I am not enjoying this album as much as others.
I like it. I love that he got another Number One! That means so much. I'm so proud of him for that.
Because I love Paul.
But it's not anywhere near his best. I'm loving still listening to it. Songs growing on me. But nowhere near the summit. No matter how many more times I listen to it.
I do unfairly make all comparisons to the Beatles and then Wings... But that's the way it is.
Probably two to three songs on the album worthy of being put in that comparative. In the lower echelon.
Which isn't enough.
But... I love Paul.
I will continue to listen. But it's currently on the lower scale of his output (which is magnificent)
Welcome back toris! I think I have to agree with you about this album. (and I love Paul too!)
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Hi BJ,
Good to hear from you! I completely agree on "Women and Wives" and "Lavatory Lil" - both fantastic tracks! "Women and Wives" has such a great lyric - Paul is clearly drawing from his personal experience, imparting important lessons he's learned throughout his life's journey. "Lavatory Lil" is very Beatley in it's sentiment and sound, and I was hooked on it right away (really great guitar playing on this track as well, that Tele sounds awesome!)
The more and more I listen to "Deep Deep Feeling", the more it completely mesmerizes me. It's the way the track is constantly evolving, introducing new elements, sounds and melodic motifs that keep it interesting and make your ears perk up. It's just so well constructed, and I think it really nails what it's trying to achieve. All of these different, shifting components, from the off-kilter drum groove, to the echoey electric guitars, to the motifs that the piano and acoustic guitars play at different points throughout the song, to the tremolo synth strings, to the vocal counterpoint that happens at 5:40, to the polyrhythm that occurs when the shaker is introduced at 5:54, to the backwards background vocals at 6:20 - I find it all totally hypnotizing.
He's singing about some heavy, nearly indescribable stuff here in the reference to the "deep, deep pain of feeling", which could be interpreted an infinite amount of ways. Musically, the half-step motion of the introductory verses is very unsettling, so it's a really nice release when the B-section is introduced ("Sometimes I wish it would stay, sometimes I wish it would go away"). The subject matter of the lyric really fits the spacious vibe of the track, in my opinion. It carries an emotional punch and depth (no pun intended) that's reminiscent of some of the darker material he's put out since "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard". I also hear that vibe a bit on the track "Women and Wives" as well. I know some people have an issue with the length and the use of repetition in the melody, but I find that because the track is constantly changing underneath, the 8+ minutes length is warranted.
On the flip side, like I posted before, I find "Deep Down" interesting and fun on a musical level, but it doesn't warrant it's length of over 6 minutes, as it never really evolves into anything different. As a personal preference, I wish he had manipulated the sound of his voice on this track, as it's not his best vocal performance and it's very out front and exposed. There's also not much going on here lyrically (as far as depth of meaning is concerned), and the juxtaposition of the youthful energy and sentiment ("throw a party every night") is kind of jarring for me when it's being sung by a clearly elderly voice. Effects or doubling his vocals could have helped mask this - a good recent example of fantastic use of effects and doubling was on "Frank Sinatra's Party", where it works really well. This is really the only track on the album where the voice is an issue to me - even "The Kiss Of Venus", where his voice is even more exposed in the arrangement as it's only accompanied by an acoustic guitar, it works because he's using a softer part of his voice, and the lyrics are fantastic. Also, that melody is just exquisite - what a song! At any rate, I'm glad that you and others are enjoying "Deep Down", my brother actually really likes this one as well.
Thank you for the kind words regarding our cover of "Put It There", really appreciate that! We actually did a short cover of "Slidin'" as part of the "12 Days of Paul" campaign, which was really fun to do. We hadn't heard the song yet at that point, and basing it off the snippet of sheet music that was posted by MPL, this is how we interpreted it:
Hope you have a happy and healthy new year!
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toris wrote:
I am not enjoying this album as much as others.
I like it. I love that he got another Number One! That means so much. I'm so proud of him for that.
Because I love Paul.
But it's not anywhere near his best. I'm loving still listening to it. Songs growing on me. But nowhere near the summit. No matter how many more times I listen to it.
I do unfairly make all comparisons to the Beatles and then Wings... But that's the way it is.
Probably two to three songs on the album worthy of being put in that comparative. In the lower echelon.
Which isn't enough.
But... I love Paul.
I will continue to listen. But it's currently on the lower scale of his output (which is magnificent)
Hey Toris,
Welcome back!
Just curious and I'm assuming that you're listening to the new album (McCartney 3) in good quality sound...either from the actual CD or a good service like Spotify, Pandora, Amazon music etc.
What specifically don't you like..Paul's vocals, the production etc. Personally, I'm loving McCartney 3. Now I'm not saying that some of new tracks aren't as good as the best songs on Egypt Station, New, Flaming Pie, Tug of War etc. but I Iove some of these new songs like:
Find My Way
Pretty Boys
The Kiss of Venus
Seize the Day
Winter Bird/When Winter Comes (the closing track)
I love all the above tracks and they all have sounds from Wings and/or Beatles to my ears. I also like the variety on the album like Slidin (good heavy metal like sound) the craziness of Lavatory Lil and the soulfulness of Deep Down or Deep Deep Feeling. I just find it to be a very creative album and I like most of the songs. Hopefully the album will grow on yuu.
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Anthony B. wrote:
Hi BJ,
Good to hear from you! I completely agree on "Women and Wives" and "Lavatory Lil" - both fantastic tracks! "Women and Wives" has such a great lyric - Paul is clearly drawing from his personal experience, imparting important lessons he's learned throughout his life's journey. "Lavatory Lil" is very Beatley in it's sentiment and sound, and I was hooked on it right away (really great guitar playing on this track as well, that Tele sounds awesome!)
The more and more I listen to "Deep Deep Feeling", the more it completely mesmerizes me. It's the way the track is constantly evolving, introducing new elements, sounds and melodic motifs that keep it interesting and make your ears perk up. It's just so well constructed, and I think it really nails what it's trying to achieve. All of these different, shifting components, from the off-kilter drum groove, to the echoey electric guitars, to the motifs that the piano and acoustic guitars play at different points throughout the song, to the tremolo synth strings, to the vocal counterpoint that happens at 5:40, to the polyrhythm that occurs when the shaker is introduced at 5:54, to the backwards background vocals at 6:20 - I find it all totally hypnotizing.
He's singing about some heavy, nearly indescribable stuff here in the reference to the "deep, deep pain of feeling", which could be interpreted an infinite amount of ways. Musically, the half-step motion of the introductory verses is very unsettling, so it's a really nice release when the B-section is introduced ("Sometimes I wish it would stay, sometimes I wish it would go away"). The subject matter of the lyric really fits the spacious vibe of the track, in my opinion. It carries an emotional punch and depth (no pun intended) that's reminiscent of some of the darker material he's put out since "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard". I also hear that vibe a bit on the track "Women and Wives" as well. I know some people have an issue with the length and the use of repetition in the melody, but I find that because the track is constantly changing underneath, the 8+ minutes length is warranted.
On the flip side, like I posted before, I find "Deep Down" interesting and fun on a musical level, but it doesn't warrant it's length of over 6 minutes, as it never really evolves into anything different. As a personal preference, I wish he had manipulated the sound of his voice on this track, as it's not his best vocal performance and it's very out front and exposed. There's also not much going on here lyrically (as far as depth of meaning is concerned), and the juxtaposition of the youthful energy and sentiment ("throw a party every night") is kind of jarring for me when it's being sung by a clearly elderly voice. Effects or doubling his vocals could have helped mask this - a good recent example of fantastic use of effects and doubling was on "Frank Sinatra's Party", where it works really well. This is really the only track on the album where the voice is an issue to me - even "The Kiss Of Venus", where his voice is even more exposed in the arrangement as it's only accompanied by an acoustic guitar, it works because he's using a softer part of his voice, and the lyrics are fantastic. Also, that melody is just exquisite - what a song! At any rate, I'm glad that you and others are enjoying "Deep Down", my brother actually really likes this one as well.
Thank you for the kind words regarding our cover of "Put It There", really appreciate that! We actually did a short cover of "Slidin'" as part of the "12 Days of Paul" campaign, which was really fun to do. We hadn't heard the song yet at that point, and basing it off the snippet of sheet music that was posted by MPL, this is how we interpreted it:
Hope you have a happy and healthy new year!
Hey Anthony,
Love your (and you brother's) acoustical version of "Slidin". Your combined vocals are fantastic. Also thanks for you detailed comments on Deep Deep Feeling and Deep Down. Love to hear more of your covers from McCartney 3 like Find My Way, Pretty Boys, The Kiss of Venus, Seize the Day and When Winter Comes. Your harmonies on these songs would be great in my opinion and I think the fans on Paul's Website would love to hear them.
Thanks again.
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My blurb on my initial very favorable reaction to "Women and Wives," "Deep Deep Feeling," and "Pretty Boys" vanished, and I think I know why--I mentioned a surprising visual in the animated cartoon (for lack of a better word) on the "Lavratory Lil" music video, but I'm not the one who drew that there. Still, I probably shouldnt have pointed it out. I haven't listened to the album enough yet for it to jell and Form a really definite impression yet. Oh yeah I really loved "Kiss of Venus" too, on first listening, too. That about the golden planets and other parts are so poetic. "When Winter
Comes" is really lovely as well. "Slidin'" and "On My Way" and "Deep Feeling" havent really moved me much yet, but I suspect those are "growers" and I'll be cra zy over them, given more intense prolonged ear time.I saw a youtube vid of Macca on Jimmy Fallen, and Fallen is really digging McCartney 3. Jimmy F. mentioned he comes in here and delves through Paul's website, he gave it a shout out ! That was cool. He's a real music lover.Oops, the title to this thread was supposed to be "My Personal Macca 3." I dont know why but it insisted I create a new thread instead of adding to the McCartney 3 thread, but I guess a Mod will rectify that.
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What was it you saw in the Lavatory Lil video? PM me if you don't want to answer here.
In order for the title of this thread to be changed, you will have to PM Calico to fix it.
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Nancy R wrote:
toris wrote:
I am not enjoying this album as much as others.
I like it. I love that he got another Number One! That means so much. I'm so proud of him for that.
Because I love Paul.
But it's not anywhere near his best. I'm loving still listening to it. Songs growing on me. But nowhere near the summit. No matter how many more times I listen to it.
I do unfairly make all comparisons to the Beatles and then Wings... But that's the way it is.
Probably two to three songs on the album worthy of being put in that comparative. In the lower echelon.
Which isn't enough.
But... I love Paul.
I will continue to listen. But it's currently on the lower scale of his output (which is magnificent)
Welcome back toris! I think I have to agree with you about this album. (and I love Paul too!)
I'm still around, Nancy! Just not responding as much..... but always checking up... Great to see you are still keeping things real!! You are the true Beatles gal!!! ....