McCartney 3?
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10 autographed copies...
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The last few mornings when I wake up, the first thing I've been doing is listening to McCartney 3. This morning (Christmas morning) I did the same thing. Obviously, I love, love all the tracks where I gave a perfect "10" score, but this morning I also really liked a few tracks where I gave a "9" score. Here are just a couple comments about these songs:
Lavatory Lil 9 - After the seriousness of "Women and Wives", this track provided just the right amount of a "lighter" touch. I love the rocking guitars, the brief guitar" solo" in the middle and the "fun" of the lyrics. It was the perfect time for this wacky song in my opinion.
The Kiss of Venus 9 - Hearing thie song this morning reminded me how " close" I came for giving McCartney 3 and this specific track another perfect score. I love the lyrics and especially the bridge portion of the song and Paul's use of the Harpsichord. Just love this portion of "The Kiss of Venus". Again, this was the perfect time for this track because it provided a "lightness" after the "heaviness" of the previous great track "Slidin".
Deep Down 9 - I loved this "jam" track this morning. It's a tad long but I love the R&B "groove" on this song. I also love Paul's soulful vocals and I think the "horns" do a great job of breaking up the repetitiveness of the song. I don't know much about picking "singles" for McCartney 3but I hope Paul and Capitol release "Deep Down" as a single specifically to radio stations that appeal to a "younger audience" who like R&B, Hip Hop and even Rap. I think it potentially could appeal to this "non-Beatle" type demographic.
When I think about the 11 tracks on McCartney 3, I gave almost all of them either a perfect scores (10's) or close to perfect (9's). Only 2 tracks received below a "9" score from me. That was the opener "Long Tailed Winter Bird" which was a tad too long in my opinion and "Deep Deep Feeling" which was "too long" and in my opinion should have been edited down a couple more minutes. I say that knowing that many fans here love "Deep Deep Feeling". I realize that music is subjective and there will be differences of opinion regarding Paul's songs and albums.
Because of the reasons above, I lthink McCartney 3 (my opinion only) is in the" Top 5" of all of Paul's Post Beatles' Albums. My Top 5 List at the moment is: 1) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard 2) Band on the Run 3) Flaming Pie 4) Egypt Station and 5) McCartney 3.
Loving McCartney 3 and I Thank God for the beautiful Christmas Present Paul gave us in 2020.
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Guess what????
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IT'S OFFICIAL! His first number one since Flowers in the Dirt! Why on Earth did it take this long but I'm so glad he is, it truly is a fantastic album
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BJ Conlee wrote:
Loving McCartney 3 and I Thank God for the beautiful Christmas Present Paul gave us in 2020.
Yes! Paul loves his fans and wanted to give us something from him this year since there weren't any concerts, etc. He loves creating music and used the time in rockdown to make something special for all of us. It has brought more than a bit of cheer during this pandemic!
Gordy JS wrote:
IT'S OFFICIAL! His first number one since Flowers in the Dirt! Why on Earth did it take this long but I'm so glad he is, it truly is a fantastic album
That's such wonderful news!! He truly deserves it. What a honor (at age 78!) and congratulations to him! I think it took a long time to calculate sales and number ones, because with the covid crisis, there have been shipping delays in getting merchandise to stores, and everything is behind.
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So COOL!!!! Video of Paul accepting award!
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Congratulations to Paul on his 1st UK #1 album in over 30 years. And he did it without the aid of multiple studios in multiple countries, without multiple producers and multiple engineers and multiple session musicians. In the main,he did it all himself. Hopefully he will keep that all in mind with his next album.
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Kestrel wrote:
Congratulations to Paul on his 1st UK #1 album in over 30 years. And he did it without the aid of multiple studios in multiple countries, without multiple producers and multiple engineers and multiple session musicians. In the main,he did it all himself. Hopefully he will keep that all in mind with his next album.
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
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B J Conlee wrote:
The last few mornings when I wake up, the first thing I've been doing is listening to McCartney 3. This morning (Christmas morning) I did the same thing. Obviously, I love, love all the tracks where I gave a perfect "10" score, but this morning I also really liked a few tracks where I gave a "9" score. Here are just a couple comments about these songs:
Lavatory Lil 9 - After the seriousness of "Women and Wives", this track provided just the right amount of a "lighter" touch. I love the rocking guitars, the brief guitar" solo" in the middle and the "fun" of the lyrics. It was the perfect time for this wacky song in my opinion.
The Kiss of Venus 9 - Hearing thie song this morning reminded me how " close" I came for giving McCartney 3 and this specific track another perfect score. I love the lyrics and especially the bridge portion of the song and Paul's use of the Harpsichord. Just love this portion of "The Kiss of Venus". Again, this was the perfect time for this track because it provided a "lightness" after the "heaviness" of the previous great track "Slidin".
Deep Down 9 - I loved this "jam" track this morning. It's a tad long but I love the R&B "groove" on this song. I also love Paul's soulful vocals and I think the "horns" do a great job of breaking up the repetitiveness of the song. I don't know much about picking "singles" for McCartney 3but I hope Paul and Capitol release "Deep Down" as a single specifically to radio stations that appeal to a "younger audience" who like R&B, Hip Hop and even Rap. I think it potentially could appeal to this "non-Beatle" type demographic.
When I think about the 11 tracks on McCartney 3, I gave almost all of them either a perfect scores (10's) or close to perfect (9's). Only 2 tracks received below a "9" score from me. That was the opener "Long Tailed Winter Bird" which was a tad too long in my opinion and "Deep Deep Feeling" which was "too long" and in my opinion should have been edited down a couple more minutes. I say that knowing that many fans here love "Deep Deep Feeling". I realize that music is subjective and there will be differences of opinion regarding Paul's songs and albums.
Because of the reasons above, I lthink McCartney 3 (my opinion only) is in the" Top 5" of all of Paul's Post Beatles' Albums. My Top 5 List at the moment is: 1) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard 2) Band on the Run 3) Flaming Pie 4) Egypt Station and 5) McCartney 3.
Loving McCartney 3 and I Thank God for the beautiful Christmas Present Paul gave us in 2020.
You know a album is pretty good BJ if your biggest "complaint" is that a couple of songs were a bit long -lol. After a couple of more listens, "Pretty Boys" is growing on me more now than it did in the original listen.
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Gordy JS wrote:
IT'S OFFICIAL! His first number one since Flowers in the Dirt! Why on Earth did it take this long but I'm so glad he is, it truly is a fantastic album
Simply put, he is not in the age group of artists anymore that are going to be big seller, that day passed decades ago. "McCartney III" is very good album but I think it is being helped by people understanding that there may not be many more albums left from him so let's appreciate his genius while we still can.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Congratulations to Paul on his 1st UK #1 album in over 30 years. And he did it without the aid of multiple studios in multiple countries, without multiple producers and multiple engineers and multiple session musicians. In the main,he did it all himself. Hopefully he will keep that all in mind with his next album.
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
Calm down. That wasn't her point. It's not a contest on who can best produce Paul's music.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
The last few mornings when I wake up, the first thing I've been doing is listening to McCartney 3. This morning (Christmas morning) I did the same thing. Obviously, I love, love all the tracks where I gave a perfect "10" score, but this morning I also really liked a few tracks where I gave a "9" score. Here are just a couple comments about these songs:
Lavatory Lil 9 - After the seriousness of "Women and Wives", this track provided just the right amount of a "lighter" touch. I love the rocking guitars, the brief guitar" solo" in the middle and the "fun" of the lyrics. It was the perfect time for this wacky song in my opinion.
The Kiss of Venus 9 - Hearing thie song this morning reminded me how " close" I came for giving McCartney 3 and this specific track another perfect score. I love the lyrics and especially the bridge portion of the song and Paul's use of the Harpsichord. Just love this portion of "The Kiss of Venus". Again, this was the perfect time for this track because it provided a "lightness" after the "heaviness" of the previous great track "Slidin".
Deep Down 9 - I loved this "jam" track this morning. It's a tad long but I love the R&B "groove" on this song. I also love Paul's soulful vocals and I think the "horns" do a great job of breaking up the repetitiveness of the song. I don't know much about picking "singles" for McCartney 3but I hope Paul and Capitol release "Deep Down" as a single specifically to radio stations that appeal to a "younger audience" who like R&B, Hip Hop and even Rap. I think it potentially could appeal to this "non-Beatle" type demographic.
When I think about the 11 tracks on McCartney 3, I gave almost all of them either a perfect scores (10's) or close to perfect (9's). Only 2 tracks received below a "9" score from me. That was the opener "Long Tailed Winter Bird" which was a tad too long in my opinion and "Deep Deep Feeling" which was "too long" and in my opinion should have been edited down a couple more minutes. I say that knowing that many fans here love "Deep Deep Feeling". I realize that music is subjective and there will be differences of opinion regarding Paul's songs and albums.
Because of the reasons above, I lthink McCartney 3 (my opinion only) is in the" Top 5" of all of Paul's Post Beatles' Albums. My Top 5 List at the moment is: 1) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard 2) Band on the Run 3) Flaming Pie 4) Egypt Station and 5) McCartney 3.
Loving McCartney 3 and I Thank God for the beautiful Christmas Present Paul gave us in 2020.
You know a album is pretty good BJ if your biggest "complaint" is that a couple of songs were a bit long -lol. After a couple of more listens, "Pretty Boys" is growing on me more now than it did in the original listen.
You're so right Yankeefan, I love, love "Pretty Boys" and now I'm starting to love "Kiss of Venus" even more after the first few listens. At first thought that "Kiss of Venus" was sort of a "slighter track" but that was because I initially only focused on the early acoustic guitar melody I liked but after more listens I love the bridges (and the additional lyrics on the song plus the use of the harpsichord. The song is a lot deeper than I originally gave it. I'm reconsidering giving "Kiss of Venus" another 10 score on McCartney 3. That would make as many perfect scores on this album that I gave Flaming Pie and Egypt Station. I'm now thinking that McCartney 3 might make it in my Top 3 of Paul's Post Beatles' album with only Chaos and Creation and Band on the Run above it. I think the bottom line is that there are no clunkers on Chaos or Band on the Run. I consider the "US version of Band on the Run because it included Helen Wheels which gave it another"perfect track. You are right McCartney 3 is a great album and it might have "legs" if Paul and Capitol do the right things regarding "singles".
I have to listen to "Deep Deep Feeling" more. It's the only track that I haven't gotten into yet. I have to see if I like the vocals (both lead and background vocals) more.
Talk later.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
Chaos is a fine album and one of my favourites but so is Band On The Run, and that was self-produced. And so was Ram,another fine album. Paul doesn't need to use anyone (including Godrich) but himself to be able to produce a top notch album.....as McCartney lll demonstrates.
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Congratulations to Paul on his 1st UK #1 album in over 30 years. And he did it without the aid of multiple studios in multiple countries, without multiple producers and multiple engineers and multiple session musicians. In the main,he did it all himself. Hopefully he will keep that all in mind with his next album.
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
Calm down. That wasn't her point. It's not a contest on who can best produce Paul's music.
Just an fyi, Kestrel is a guy.
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Congratulations to Paul on his 1st UK #1 album in over 30 years. And he did it without the aid of multiple studios in multiple countries, without multiple producers and multiple engineers and multiple session musicians. In the main,he did it all himself. Hopefully he will keep that all in mind with his next album.
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
Calm down. That wasn't her point. It's not a contest on who can best produce Paul's music.
I am not upset -lol. Ketstel was making point about McCartney producing himself and I agree he did excellent job, I am just pointing out somebody like Godrich did excellent job also IMO.
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Kestrel wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
He has had other albums like CHAOS that were as good if not better than "McCartney III" and just did not happen to sell as well but that has nothing to do with using producers/musicians. Nobody can tell me that anybody has ever done a better job producing McCartney than Nigel Godrich.
Chaos is a fine album and one of my favourites but so is Band On The Run, and that was self-produced. And so was Ram,another fine album. Paul doesn't need to use anyone (including Godrich) but himself to be able to produce a top notch album.....as McCartney lll demonstrates.
He can produce himself very well as you pointed out, I just think somebody like Godrich did excellent job and was not afraid to tell him his songs were not good enough. You dont get this type of feedback when you produce yourself IMO and it can lead to better album. No big deal either way, differences make the world go round -lol.
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AndrewMBarros wrote:
Ten copies of the McCartney III are signed by Paul himself. It looks like the signatures are on the white vinyl version. They are very lucky!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJEpHsIMEQ5/?igshid=dl310drto9dg&fbclid=IwAR0BkJTJUjK-_GffKxoHwM4gubDnpHH2X-WsQh3WRZsf9uR1shdz7lY-wBgI'm waiting on my Indie version, let's see if I'm lucky enough to get one of the signed ones! Unless they have all already been found.
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" I'm now thinking that McCartney 3 might make it in my Top 3 of Paul's Post Beatles' album with only Chaos and Creation and Band on the Run above it. I think the bottom line is that there are no clunkers on Chaos or Band on the Run. I consider the "US version of Band on the Run because it included Helen Wheels which gave it another"perfect track.
BJ, I think we will disagree with the top three a bit. I think over all "Tug Of War" is better than "McCartney III". I don't think "McCartney III" can match songs as good as the song "Tug Of War", "Wanderlust","Take It Away" and "Here Today" for example. In addition, album has underrated songs like "Somebody Who Cares". People can mock "Ebony And Ivory" all they want but it still was #1 single and lead the way to make the album #1 and staying on the charts for awhile. I agree with your analysis of "What's That Your Doing" not being great track but you still are not won over with "Deep Deep Feeling" so it is a "wash" IMO. Both very good but different type of albums, I just think :Tug Of War" is a bit better at this time.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
" I'm now thinking that McCartney 3 might make it in my Top 3 of Paul's Post Beatles' album with only Chaos and Creation and Band on the Run above it. I think the bottom line is that there are no clunkers on Chaos or Band on the Run. I consider the "US version of Band on the Run because it included Helen Wheels which gave it another"perfect track.
BJ, I think we will disagree with the top three a bit. I think over all "Tug Of War" is better than "McCartney III". I don't think "McCartney III" can match songs as good as the song "Tug Of War", "Wanderlust","Take It Away" and "Here Today" for example. In addition, album has underrated songs like "Somebody Who Cares". People can mock "Ebony And Ivory" all they want but it still was #1 single and lead the way to make the album #1 and staying on the charts for awhile. I agree with your analysis of "What's That Your Doing" not being great track but you still are not won over with "Deep Deep Feeling" so it is a "wash" IMO. Both very good but different type of albums, I just think :Tug Of War" is a bit better at this time.
We're definitely splitting hairs. Tug of War would surely be in my Top 6 or 7 among Paul's greatest Post Beatles' albums. Maybe because McCartney 3 is his latest and I'm pushing it so high right now. You are so right that Tug of War (the song), Wanderlust, Take It Away, Here Today and the severely underrated Somebody Who Cares are all great great songs. Actually Ballroom Dancing is pretty darn good too. I'm also with you all the way on Ebony and Ivory. When I hear E&I on speakers, I love Paul's and Stevie's harmonies. On some days, it's hard not to put Tug of War in the top 3 also.
I have to say that Find My Way, Pretty Boys, Seize the Day, Slidin, Kiss of Venus, and When Winter Comes are also great so songs. The guy is an amazing songwriter abd his Post Beatles' career has been so underrated in my opinion.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
So... three listens in I'm feeling mixed about McCartney III. Still processing and I don't feel fully settled yet, but suspect I'm going to end up placing it roughly midpack in my mental ranking of Paul albums, somewhere near Off the Ground and Driving Rain, but pretty definitely not close to the heights of Egypt Station. There are tracks I like for sure, but nothing yet that I can honestly say I love the way I do Hand in Hand, Dominoes, Confidante and Do It Now. And I'm starting to grow an active dislike for Deep Deep Feeling. But it's all fairly preliminary, not set in stone.
I'm feeling pretty close to where you are at this point Bruce. I'm at the point after repeated listens that the good tracks I initally liked are sounding even a lot better. Now I'm loving songs like "Find My Way, Pretty Boys, Sliding, The Kiss of Venus and Seize the Day". These songs might be just as good as the great songs on Egypt Station, Chaos, MAF, Tug of War and Flaming Pie. If I feel the same way in another couple of weeks, I might have McCartney 3 in my Top 5 of Paul's Post Beatles' albums.
My big questions about how good McCartney 3 might end up being is still with the 2 long "jam" songs...Deep Deep Feeling and Deep Down. If they don't grow with me substantially I would probably place McCartney 3 like you in the middle of the pack. I have to say that at this point I'm liking "Deep Down" more than "Deep Deep Feeling". It's shorter (5:53 vs. 8:26) and I'm liking the R&B groove on "Deep Down"a lot more so the length of the track is less of a problem. The "horns" on "Deep Down" are also breaking up the monotonous parts of the song so it's really growing on me. I'm still on the fence with "Deep Deep Feeling" as to whether it will become the clunker on McCartney 3. The rest of the album is really good in my opinion.
In the beginning, I thought "Lavatory Lil" was going to be the "Love it or hate it" song but it appears that may be "Deep Deep Feeling" for people on this board. For the most part, critics seem to like the song although most would not mind it being cut down a bit and I agree with them. Even with the length issue, I think it is too good to be considered a clunker. Included another review (see link) that is excellent in depth review and I enjoyed it.
https://www.xsnoize.com/album-review-paul-mccartney-mccartney-iii/
Thanks so much Yankeefan. I love this review and I missed it. It is written by Ben Scott from the website XSNoise. Mr. Scott gave McCartney 3 a 10 out of 10 for the whole album. Obviously, Mr. Scott is a big Macca fan but what I loved aboust this review was that the writer gave a "complete review". He not only gave a great historical background of Paul and the Beatles but he went through each McCartney 3 track and gave solid reasons why he thinks the new album is so good.
I loved the beginning where Mr. Scott says this:
"The Covid 19 Pandemic of 2020 meant that many of us had to spend a lot of time indoors. Definitely a bummer in most cases but one of the few silver linings is that musical geniuses had to spend a lot if time indoors too. Because of this, Paul McCarrney had plenty of time during lockdown to add another chapter to his remarkable career in music and complete a fascinating trilogy with the extraordinary McCartney 3".
Mr. Scott went on to add why Paul McCartney specifically had to endure many critiicisms from many older Beatle fans. Here what he said about the period after John's assassination:
"Lots of things for Paul changed since 1980 including the breakups of both the Beatles and Paul's own group Wings. Shaken by the horrible death of John Lennon for a few decades, the world seem to decide that this undeniably huge loss to music was also the loss to the biggest talent in the Beatles. And so the myth was created that John was the creative visionary and Paul was the writer of lightweight ditties and soppy ballads. Forever detemined to defy the critics and play by his own rules (like he did when he started Wings after the Beatles) Paul never cared how devisive or uncool he was. Furthermore, his middle age period brought more criticisms but the hits and sold out tours kept coming".
This is why I consider Paul's Post Beatles' and Solo career to be so underrated for the most part. Many Beatle fans and especially many critics/writers who became "the self proclaimed experts on the history of the Bealtes" kept promoting that John after his horrible death was "the" Beatles. I think of the famous writer Phillip Norman who falsely proclained in his international best seller "Shout" that John was 80% of the Beatles. What a total lack of respect that Mr. Norman gave to Ringo, George and especially Paul. I loved John and he was an enormous talent (especially lyrically) but Paul is now showing especailly with his latest album McCartney 3 that he was/is every bit the genius that John was. That is why I'm so happy for Paul with McCartney 3. It's a brilliant album but just one of many (Band on the Run, Ram, Venus and Mars, Tug of War, Flowers in the Dirt, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Creation, New, Egypt Station etc) great Post Beatles' albums that Paul has created. This is why and along with the reasons given above that Paul's "full" Musical Career has been, believe it or not, relatively "underrated" in my opinion.