Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI
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Has anyone else listened to the few redone McCartney songs using artificial intelligence to insert a younger McCartney voice into existing songs?
For starters I heard a "redone" version of "I Don't Know" and "My Valentine" and I have to admit, I did not hate it at all, I actually really enjoyed it.
These can be easily found on You Tube
What are other's thoughts on this? Paul has always embraced having his voice altered to an extent. Do you think this new technology is something we might see on upcoming albums or even live performances?
Its intriguing....
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@steve said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
Has anyone else listened to the few redone McCartney songs using artificial intelligence to insert a younger McCartney voice into existing songs?
For starters I heard a "redone" version of "I Don't Know" and "My Valentine" and I have to admit, I did not hate it at all, I actually really enjoyed it.
These can be easily found on You Tube
What are other's thoughts on this? Paul has always embraced having his voice altered to an extent. Do you think this new technology is something we might see on upcoming albums or even live performances?
Its intriguing....
Not interested myself. Would be like buying a CD of a McCartney tribute band. I'm perfectly happy going to WATCH a McCartney tribute act ( or Beatles) but would never buy a CD of a Macca/ Beatles tribute band.
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@wandy Let me be more specific. I’d agree with most of what you said. More specifically…
What if HE used this technology? It’s already out there.
Is it any different than a double track vocal or echo chamber etc?
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@steve said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
@wandy Let me be more specific. I’d agree with most of what you said. More specifically…
What if HE used this technology? It’s already out there.
Is it any different than a double track vocal or echo chamber etc?
Well it could be classed as cheating, both fans, and the general public. But, would it also be classed as cheating if he had a face-lift to make him look younger and went out on tour. Its difficult this one. My personal view is the face lift thing is acceptable. But the AI thing isn't. I think it is cheating.
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@wandy
Totally different things. Paul having a face lift does not affect the song you are listening to, and millions of entertainers have face lifts. People are not stupid and can tell when something has been done to alter the appearance of a famous person. Sadly, there are plenty of times these face lifts have not turned out very well. Inserting a younger version of your voice to a recorded song distorts the song because it is not really your voice at the time song was recorded. IMO, that is deceiving the public.
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
@wandy
Totally different things. Paul having a face lift does not affect the song you are listening to, and millions of entertainers have face lifts. People are not stupid and can tell when something has been done to alter the appearance of a famous person. Sadly, there are plenty of times these face lifts have not turned out very well. Inserting a younger version of your voice to a recorded song distorts the song because it is not really your voice at the time song was recorded. IMO, that is deceiving the public.
Hmm:strokes chin::: I think that is pretty much what I said. I agree with you.
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@wandy But how is distorting your voice any different than distorting your voice as it has been done before the AI came about? Doesnt double tracking or echo or sped up or sped down vocals ok? He and the Beatles already have distored their vocals in these several different ways. If he records it and THEN distorts his voice what is the crime here? How can we really says this type is ok and that type is not? Isn't it part of the creative process? Its just a new technology.
I'm just saying that I'd welcome it as I would any kind of play on his vocals as he's done in other styles. Its just really interesting.
I know some don't embrace the idea and thats ok too. Just wanted to create a debate and raise the awreness with this thread.
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@steve said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
@wandy But how is distorting your voice any different than distorting your voice as it has been done before the AI came about? Doesnt double tracking or echo or sped up or sped down vocals ok? He and the Beatles already have distored their vocals in these several different ways. If he records it and THEN distorts his voice what is the crime here? How can we really says this type is ok and that type is not? Isn't it part of the creative process? Its just a new technology.
I'm just saying that I'd welcome it as I would any kind of play on his vocals as he's done in other styles. Its just really interesting.
I know some don't embrace the idea and thats ok too. Just wanted to create a debate and raise the awreness with this thread.
No problem with you coming up with this idea, but it isn't for me, because when the Beatles did it it wasn't used as a "cover up". I believe the AI thing is a "cover up". I class that as cheating.
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@steve We discussed this in another thread and posted some videos where they used AI on Paul’s voice.
https://maccaboard.paulmccartney.com/topic/3805/paul-mccartney-youtube-videos/4 -
My interest in hearing an AI version of "young Paul" roughly equals my interest in having my fingernails ripped out with pliers.
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@bruce-m said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
My interest in hearing an AI version of "young Paul" roughly equals my interest in having my fingernails ripped out with pliers.
Bruce, tell us how you REALLY feel!
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It's not pure... it's not natural... It is cheating.... but I kinda like some of it.... Very clever. Some of it sounds great.
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@toris said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
It's not pure... it's not natural... It is cheating.... but I kinda like some of it.... Very clever. Some of it sounds great.
If only he could re-release Hosanna as a decent song. And Come on to Me... the latter might be too much of a stretch.
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I don't think anything can help "pretty little head"
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How do they do it? Just listened to Paul's "version" of his fave John Song... Beautiful Boy...
It's wrong. Ghoulish. Unnatural..... Not quite right....
Yet, I can't look away.
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Grow Old With Me.... it's made it an epic.... not that it wasn't already one of the most underrated songs.
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@toris said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
Grow Old With Me.... it's made it an epic.... not that it wasn't already one of the most underrated songs.
Grow old with me breaks my heart.
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@toris said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
Grow Old With Me.... it's made it an epic.... not that it wasn't already one of the most underrated songs.
But the whole thing is somehow wrong.... Yet.... I can't look away. It's...fascinating.
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@wandy said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
@toris said in Paul's altered voice courtesy of AI:
Grow Old With Me.... it's made it an epic.... not that it wasn't already one of the most underrated songs.
Grow old with me breaks my heart.
Me too... along with Life Begins at 40.